Artem Chigvintsev (Nikki Bella’s husband) charged with domestic violence

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

I’m definitely judging him. But I really don’t care what he’s going to do to “atone” for his violence or what he thinks. He’s an abuser. What I care about is Nikki’s safety. She needs to get away from him asap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

[Anonymous]

How does anyone know she didn't get violent with him though? Would it change any opinion if she had?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

You are clearly projecting. I’m not blaming Nikki for anything. I just want her to get away from him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

You are clearly projecting. I’m not blaming Nikki for anything. I just want her to get away from him.

Are you the poster that said “It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.” And “Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

You are clearly projecting. I’m not blaming Nikki for anything. I just want her to get away from him.

Are you the poster that said “It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.” And “Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.”

Has to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

It's wrong because instead of asking "I wonder what he's going to do to atone for his violence" or "I wonder why he thinks it's OK to cause harm to his spouse" or "I wonder how, in this day and age, where it's routine for law enforcement to arrest both parties than try to figure out who is the primary aggressor that he got arrested for felony domestic violence even though he made the call" or "I wonder how many times he's chosen violence" or "I wonder why society keeps accepting violence from men" you ask "I wonder how SHE is going to respond to this" with the dangling implication "I'm going to judge her response to his violence instead of judging him for being violent to begin with." That's why it's the wrong reaction.

Wanting her to get away from that nut is not a wrong reaction at all. You have serious issues.

Sure. We all want someone to get away from an abuser. But solely focusing on the victim's action and not that of the abuser is what's created the situation where victims can't safely leave because no one believes them and places all the blame and responsibility on the victim, from solving the problem or even causing the problem. I'm sorry that concept is too difficult for you to understand.

You are clearly projecting. I’m not blaming Nikki for anything. I just want her to get away from him.

Are you the poster that said “It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.” And “Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.”

Has to be.

Yea, they have a weird way of “not blaming Nikki for anything”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

Who else might spend $25,000 on him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess she won’t be divorcing Artem and will just put up with him. Sad.

I guess society will continue to blame survivors and the choices they make focusing on them and their reactions rather than hold domestic abusers accountable. Sad.

It has to start with her holding him accountable which she is clearly not doing.

You have no idea what she’s doing or done. But it’s interesting that your reaction to this is to focus on her and not his violence.

Someone bailed him out. I wonder who? And yes, I want to see if she gets away from this as$hole. He isn’t going to leave. Not sure how that is the “wrong” reaction.

So you are assuming Nikki bailed him out?

No. I said I wonder who.

Yes, after saying she needs to hold him accountable and that she clearly hasn’t. Then you needed to follow up with “someone bailed him out” when you were called out for putting the blame on the victim.