Comparing LACs
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Anonymous
The 28% for SAT and 14% for ACT are likely the missing submission rates from the bottom of their profile, so thank you for that! Wesleyan may request admitted students who have taken tests and didn’t submit do so if choosing to enroll, but that’s certainly very different from the earlier comments that all enrolled students are required to submit test scores. I also don’t think those who have taken but didn’t submit during the appplication phase are later required to do so. The sum of SAT and ACT submit rates from the CDS tells us 30% or more either never took the test or that they did but didn’t worry about the consequence of not submitting. I think it’s very unlikely a third of Wesleyan students never even tried either the SAT or ACT. I think it’s far more likely Wesleyan simply requests but doesn’t truly require (let alone have a way to enforce) submission of scores for those matriculating, other than requiring official records for those who self-reported on their apps. Imagine the uproar and liability if a test optional school rescinded a student’s admission months after they made their deposit and declined other schools when they never self-reported any scores in the first place and believed the “we won’t penalize you if you don’t report” assurance during the college search and application process, all because they didn’t submit a score they didn’t use. There would be no grounds for that, as the student never wanted scores used in the first place, the school said they were optional, and the only possible grievance on the school’s part is they didn’t get to have another institutional research data point on a test they themselves say is optional. It would be about as crazy as rescinding admission of a student who selected the option not to disclose race on their app then was told after the fact that they are required to for institutional research purposes but didn’t comply. I think the term “required” was used too loosely earlier in this thread, and a college wouldn’t want to misuse the term on things that aren’t truly required as it would set a terrible precedent for things that truly are. But the more important point was always their higher scores on the bottom of the profile reflected a smaller population than that of the CDS which itself was also a smaller population than the whole class. |
Anonymous
| Hopefully we can all agree that when a school cites its test scores it should always cite the % reporting. Wesleyan’s class profile page was written in a misleading manner by having “59%” under the admit stat section but no new percentage under the enrolled stat section (apparently up to 42%, depending on how many submitted both tests rather than one.) |
Anonymous
| Wow this thread has taken a strange direction. To answer the original question- probably no difference or not much of one. I’ve got two students in different schools in the “next tier” and can say they are both having a great experience, are surrounded by really smart kids, and seem to have picked places that culturally are good fits. I’d suggest you pay more attention to the latter than rankings within this set of excellent schools |
Anonymous
My chlid goes to Wesleyan. He was admitted test optional. This August, he was required to submit his test scores before enrolling. I don’t understand why people are arguing with me about this. I don’t know what other TO schools do. But I do know that Wesleyan does require this. |
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Anonymous
My child was admitted to Wes TO and required to submit before enrolling. Thus my all caps. |
Anonymous
Yup. Same here. |
Anonymous
Wesleyan test scores got the drill down treatment because earlier someone wrote “for the CDS Wes includes scores for all enrolled students.” That’s incorrect. Significantly less than 100% of the class submits scores. It’s around 70% if you assume no/few students submit both SAT and ACT. They state on their website admitted students are not required to take the tests prior to starting if they haven’t already done so. It’s seems unlikely that nearly 1/3 of matriculated students never took either standardized test, but if you want to believe that, it’s your prerogative. Regardless, they aren’t requiring all matriculating students submit scores. Here are two pages where they explain accepted students who haven’t already taken the tests don’t need to: https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/apply/faq.html “Wesleyan will not require any matriculating student who did not take an ACT, SAT, or SAT Subject Tests to take exams prior to enrolling.” https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/informationfor/matriculated/ “If you did not take the ACT/SAT you are not required to sit for them” |