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SAT Composite percentile 25th - 50th - 75th
Bowdoin: 1340 - 1460 - 1520
Middlebury: 1420 - 1466 - 1520
Wesleyan: 1310 - 1430 - 1505

ACT Composite 24th - 50th - 75th
Bowdoin: 31 - 33 - 35
Middlebury: 33 - 33.42 - 35
Wesleyan: 305. - 32 - 34

Percent in top 10% of HS class:
Bowdoin: 83%
Middlebury: Not reported
Wesleyan: 78.8%

Look pretty comparable to me. [/quote]

These numbers are from older CDS, when Bowdoin was reporting scores whether submitted or not. Percent in top 10% info is not very meaningful because such a small fraction of attending students submit this data.[/quote]

Those numbers are from 2022-2023 CDS.

Here's 2023-2024:
SAT Composite percentile 25th - 50th - 75th
Bowdoin: 1470 - 1510 - 1530
Middlebury: 1440 - 1500 - 1530
Wesleyan: 1300 - 1430 - 1500

ACT Composite 25th - 50th - 75th
Bowdoin: 33 - 34 - 35
Middlebury: 33 - 34 - 34
Wesleyan: 31 - 33 - 34

[b]Again, differences not substantial. [/b]

Bowdoin has a lower acceptance rate partly because they have a much smaller class to fill. Bowdoin has 1900 students, compared to Midd at 2,800 and Wesleyan at 3,000. Otherwise, their student bodies are very similar. [/quote]

And the differences go away completely when you look at the Wes scores for submitters only—the apples to apples comparison. In fact, Wesleyan jumps to the top of the list on SAT (and is the same as Bowdoin on ACT).

SAT Composite percentile 25th - 50th - 75th
Wesleyan: 1480 - 1520 - 1560
Bowdoin: 1470 - 1510 - 1530
Middlebury: 1440 - 1500 - 1530

ACT Composite 25th - 50th - 75th
Wesleyan: 33 - 34 - 35 
Bowdoin: 33 - 34 - 35
Middlebury: 33 - 34 - 34
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Not sure where these numbers come from. The Wesleyan CDS 2023-24 has reports SAT scores of 1300-1430-1500 for the 52% reporting.

https://wesleyan0.sharepoint.com/:x:/r/sites/IRDataandReports/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc=%7B511364A2-342B-44F5-9598-5AFF50E81CCB%7D&file=CDS_2023-2024.xlsx&action=default&mobileredirect=true[/quote]

Yeah, the numbers don't add up....hmm.

https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/apply/class-profile.html and [/quote]

As explained earlier in the thread, for the CDS Wes [b]includes scores for all enrolled students, even from students who don’t submit as part of their application. [/b]Forthe class profile, they include only the scores submitted for consideration in admissions.

The class profile scores are the ones to look at if you are deciding whether or not to submit.[/quote]

How does a school know the scores that weren't submitted?[/quote]

They require enrolling students to submit scores after the fact for data.[/quote]

They do not.  They do require those who self-reported send official score reports before school starts, but so does every school. [/quote]

They ABSOLUTELY DO. Good lord. Kids who are admitted TO have to submit scores before they start school in August.[/quote]
DC goes to a test optional school, and this never occurred. The college doesn't care about your score if you are already enrolled.[/quote]

My chlid goes to Wesleyan. He was admitted test optional. This August, he was required to submit his test scores before enrolling. I don’t understand why people are arguing with me about this. I don’t know what other TO schools do. But I do know that Wesleyan does require this. [/quote]

Wesleyan test scores got the drill  down treatment because earlier someone wrote “for the CDS Wes includes scores for all enrolled students.”  That’s incorrect.  Significantly less than 100% of the class submits scores.  It’s around 70% if you assume no/few students submit both SAT and ACT.  They state on their website admitted students are not required to take the tests prior to starting if they haven’t already done so. It’s seems unlikely that nearly 1/3 of matriculated students never took either standardized test, but if you want to believe that, it’s your prerogative. Regardless, they aren’t requiring all matriculating students submit scores. Here are two pages where they explain accepted students who haven’t already taken the tests don’t need to:

https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/apply/faq.html

“Wesleyan will not require any matriculating student who did not take an ACT, SAT, or SAT Subject Tests to take exams prior to enrolling.”

https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/informationfor/matriculated/

“If you did not take the ACT/SAT you are not required to sit for them”

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