Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away

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Anonymous wrote:I mean what if someone gets sick during training? They can’t punish someone for that. I wouldn’t delay a 20 week ultrasound. So many things can come up at that appointment. Mine disclosed a very high risk situation. You need to also take your baby’s health into consideration.

At my job you cannot miss any of the training. If you do, your employment is terminated. There’s no exception for any reason. And they always start more people than they need because people invariably think they will get an exception. Also if you are removed from the class, there is a long period before you’re eligible to apply again.

I don’t know OPs situation. But I do know that not everyone gets the perk of flexibility or paid leave.

Op here. Thank you. I do know there are jobs like this. What I am struggling with is when to disclose. It didn't occur to me to do it before my start date because everyone I know says to wait as long as possible. I am going to see if I can do the scan at 17 weeks but when I called to schedule they seemed rigid that it must be at 20 weeks. The scan place isn't at my obgyns office. The scan office is at the same place as the high-risk doctor. I have been told most people only go here for the 20-week scan or a high-risk appointment. They do not have evening appointments.

DP here. Yes, 20 week anatomy scans are usually done at a MFM specialist so it might be hard to find one available after hours. This whole situation just shows how unfair pregnancy is for women, because a man would never have to jeopardize his job over this.

Not an excuse for lying.

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So you're pregnant and they didn't know, wow

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You should not have lied 5 prior times.

OP here. Just to clarify this question was asked in the application several times and once during the interview. If I selected yes I never would have received an interview. Taking an hour or two versus a full day is very different. The job was supposed to begin this month so training would have been over by 20 weeks. My schedule would also change and I would have some mornings off to attend appointments. My schedule is going to be non-traditional. I could work one weekend day for example and have a weekday off. After training there will be more flexibility to attend appointments.

OP, who is taking care of this baby after birth? You do understand that you will need outside childcare?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.

Period. Stop making things so complicated.

Op here. We were told told if we miss any training day it’s a big deal and we could be terminated. For some jobs it is a big deal during the training period. They don’t want to slow down the training class and catch you up. This training isn’t just for me.

Then you may be terminated.

That training is mandatory. I have a good friend in this and they are strict.

You have already lied 5 times. Just tell them that morning you had a medical emergency and make it 6.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that you lied five times.

I'm also really uncomfortable with the suggestion that you listen to your training while getting a scan. Do NOT do this.

I vote for telling your manager. They probably wouldn't be thrilled, but I don't think they would fire you. (Pregnancy protections are decent.)

Op. I can't train while I am getting the scan. Probably impossible during week 3 but who knows? Sometimes during the first week, it's busy work. I don't consider it a "lie". You can disclose a disability and that's what pregnancy is after you're hired for this very reason. The start date for my job was also pushed back by more than a month. I haven't begun the job yet and I do not feel comfortable emailing my manager before I begin to disclose any of this.

Pregnancy is not a disability.

It is according to the ADA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.

Period. Stop making things so complicated.

Op here. We were told told if we miss any training day it’s a big deal and we could be terminated. For some jobs it is a big deal during the training period. They don’t want to slow down the training class and catch you up. This training isn’t just for me.

Then you may be terminated.

That training is mandatory. I have a good friend in this and they are strict.

You have already lied 5 times. Just tell them that morning you had a medical emergency and make it 6.

If she discloses BEFORE she will have a lower chance and I don't buy the she lied thing. They asked this question to weed people out. People who won't stay until the end of the training. Health insurance jobs are a dime a dozen. They will be happy with anyone who gets through it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that you lied five times.

I'm also really uncomfortable with the suggestion that you listen to your training while getting a scan. Do NOT do this.

I vote for telling your manager. They probably wouldn't be thrilled, but I don't think they would fire you. (Pregnancy protections are decent.)

Op. I can't train while I am getting the scan. Probably impossible during week 3 but who knows? Sometimes during the first week, it's busy work. I don't consider it a "lie". You can disclose a disability and that's what pregnancy is after you're hired for this very reason. The start date for my job was also pushed back by more than a month. I haven't begun the job yet and I do not feel comfortable emailing my manager before I begin to disclose any of this.

Pregnancy is not a disability.

It is according to the ADA.

Nope.

“The third law is the Americans with Disabilities Act, which is called the “ADA.” The ADA prohibits discrimination against an applicant or employee based on a disability, including a disability related to a pregnancy such as diabetes that develops during pregnancy. While pregnancy itself is not a disability under the ADA, some pregnant workers may have one or more impairments related to their pregnancy that qualify as a “disability” under the ADA. An employer may have to provide that worker with a reasonable accommodation for the pregnancy-related disability.”

https://www.eeoc.gov/pregnancy-discrimination

Medical conditions arising from pregnancy are ADA covered. But just being pregnant is not a covered disability.

[Anonymous]

Op here. I am not returning this this forum, but thanks for the helpful posts. It's sad considering it's expectant moms so a lot of you are presumably women. This catty behavior usually starts in middle school, but some of you don't grow out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that you lied five times.

I'm also really uncomfortable with the suggestion that you listen to your training while getting a scan. Do NOT do this.

I vote for telling your manager. They probably wouldn't be thrilled, but I don't think they would fire you. (Pregnancy protections are decent.)

Op. I can't train while I am getting the scan. Probably impossible during week 3 but who knows? Sometimes during the first week, it's busy work. I don't consider it a "lie". You can disclose a disability and that's what pregnancy is after you're hired for this very reason. The start date for my job was also pushed back by more than a month. I haven't begun the job yet and I do not feel comfortable emailing my manager before I begin to disclose any of this.

Pregnancy is not a disability.

It is according to the ADA.

Nope.

“The third law is the Americans with Disabilities Act, which is called the “ADA.” The ADA prohibits discrimination against an applicant or employee based on a disability, including a disability related to a pregnancy such as diabetes that develops during pregnancy. While pregnancy itself is not a disability under the ADA, some pregnant workers may have one or more impairments related to their pregnancy that qualify as a “disability” under the ADA. An employer may have to provide that worker with a reasonable accommodation for the pregnancy-related disability.”

https://www.eeoc.gov/pregnancy-discrimination

Medical conditions arising from pregnancy are ADA covered. But just being pregnant is not a covered disability.

Same thing. You know what she meant. Pregnant women get reasonable accommodations. Everyone knows that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I am not returning this this forum, but thanks for the helpful posts. It's sad considering it's expectant moms so a lot of you are presumably women. This catty behavior usually starts in middle school, but some of you don't grow out of it.

you may never see this but i'm fully convinced all these comments are one jerk- likely a male manager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that you lied five times.

I'm also really uncomfortable with the suggestion that you listen to your training while getting a scan. Do NOT do this.

I vote for telling your manager. They probably wouldn't be thrilled, but I don't think they would fire you. (Pregnancy protections are decent.)

Op. I can't train while I am getting the scan. Probably impossible during week 3 but who knows? Sometimes during the first week, it's busy work. I don't consider it a "lie". You can disclose a disability and that's what pregnancy is after you're hired for this very reason. The start date for my job was also pushed back by more than a month. I haven't begun the job yet and I do not feel comfortable emailing my manager before I begin to disclose any of this.

Pregnancy is not a disability.

It is according to the ADA.

Nope.

“The third law is the Americans with Disabilities Act, which is called the “ADA.” The ADA prohibits discrimination against an applicant or employee based on a disability, including a disability related to a pregnancy such as diabetes that develops during pregnancy. While pregnancy itself is not a disability under the ADA, some pregnant workers may have one or more impairments related to their pregnancy that qualify as a “disability” under the ADA. An employer may have to provide that worker with a reasonable accommodation for the pregnancy-related disability.”

https://www.eeoc.gov/pregnancy-discrimination

Medical conditions arising from pregnancy are ADA covered. But just being pregnant is not a covered disability.

Same thing. You know what she meant. Pregnant women get reasonable accommodations. Everyone knows that.

No. It’s absolutely not the same thing. Facts DO matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I am not returning this this forum, but thanks for the helpful posts. It's sad considering it's expectant moms so a lot of you are presumably women. This catty behavior usually starts in middle school, but some of you don't grow out of it.

Good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can move the 20 week scan forward a week or two OP.

Are there any holidays off during your training? I was sometimes able to schedule medical appointments on holidays because I was off work but the medical offices were open (barring Christmas and Thanksgiving).

I would need to move it to 17 weeks 4 days. The MFM office isn't open on Fridays. Training is supposed to be 6 weeks but it could be shorter. If I move it to after training that puts me at 26 weeks unless I do it the very last week of training. I am hoping training gets shortened. I do think the first week we will learn a lot more. In this line of work, turnover is very high. Another person above pointed out that sometimes companies hire more candidates than they need for this reason and not all of them stay through the training. In some positions, they would need to find a temp but in this field, it's not common because there are so many of us with this job title. It's a little niche because it's working with pharm but it's similar to claims at a health insurance company. I won't be doing customer service but I will be reaching out to a lot of health insurance companies to verify pharm coverage. Labor day is one day we will have off but I don't think MFM office will be open.

First off, there are a ton of private scanning companies you can go to. All you need is an ultrasound tech, they’re all trained in how to perform an anatomy scan (yes I have firsthand knowledge of this). Then you just send the results to your OB or MFM.

Second, unless you’re very overweight anatomy scans can definitely be done at 17 weeks. What they’re looking for is not going to magically appear in 3 weeks. They just need a good view, if they can get it which they should be able to on a normal BMI woman at 17 weeks - great.

[Anonymous]

Quite frankly, if the job is that important to you I would push the scan to 24 weeks when you’re done with training.