NE/SE affordability and upcoming areas?

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Anonymous wrote:You may find a fixer upper in Trinidad or off of Benning Road. You just going to need a weapon to protect yourself when you move there.

LOL! Says someone who obviously don’t have any experience or live in the area.

I’ve been in Trinidad for years. First single renting with roommates and then got married and bought place when realized the potential. Now we have a kid. Never had any issues whatsoever.

BTW FWIW our net worth is about 5 million and we have a beach house also.. Could have easily bought WOTP but way too far from downtown, boring, and wanted our kid not to be insulated and around more diverse group of families. There’s more of us in this NE corridor than you think.

Enjoy getting shot by some underage hoodlums. Money can’t buy another life

in the suburbs you just get run over by kids in their BMWs. white kid death rates are higher in the suburbs than in DC proper/

Because they don’t bother to count those kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't believe no one has suggested Penn Branch for EOTR. Hands down, my favorite neighborhood. So quiet, spacious lots, engaged community, and now with 2 restaurants within walking distance. This post has had a number of good recommendations, though, especially for ward 7 neighborhoods. I appreciate the change in tone from years past.

Penn Branch or Deanwood is very good too. I prefer anacostia for the reason that it is coming up very nice. Police presence is there and schools need to go a long way but improving.

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Anonymous wrote:Hood ridge is bad. You have better places in NoVA or DC than Woodbridge.

Woodbridge has a lot of crime. Not a good place to live.

What are you talking about? Woodridge is great.

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Anonymous wrote:Hood ridge is bad. You have better places in NoVA or DC than Woodbridge.

Woodbridge has a lot of crime. Not a good place to live.

What are you talking about? Woodridge is great.

Sorry, Woodridge in DC is great. Woodbridge in VA is not so great.

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Anonymous wrote:Hood ridge is bad. You have better places in NoVA or DC than Woodbridge.

Woodbridge has a lot of crime. Not a good place to live.

What are you talking about? Woodridge is great.

Sorry, Woodridge in DC is great. Woodbridge in VA is not so great.

Woodridge is lovely, but not really very affordable anymore.

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I moved from Dupont to Fairlawn and got a much better pricing on the rent as compared to what I was getting in NW.

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Anonymous wrote:I moved from Dupont to Fairlawn and got a much better pricing on the rent as compared to what I was getting in NW.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Kingman Park streets 21/23 to Oklahoma specifically, generally don't have people standing around (Benning rd is another story, but it is its own world).

People say H St is declining so no to Trinidad, but also I feel like people who say H St is declining have literally no memory of H St 15-17 years ago before it improved. It remains to this day vastly different and vastly better, I went there when there was only 2-3 restaurants like Granville Moore's and some liquor stores. H St has constantly churned/replaced restaurants over 15 years but everyone freaks out about restaurant closings in the recent 2 years though it's nothing new.

The state of RFK remains the biggest question mark and, should something happen there, the biggest potential to cause growth in the adjacent neighborhood including across the river. However, nothing has happened yet in whatever 15-20 years of the city trying to get something to happen. Senator Steve Daines from Utah was the most recent GOP person to block development of that site in committee.

Super weird to suggest Kingman Park (which is close to Benning Road) and then reject Trinidad for being too close to H Street (Trinidad is several blocks separated from H Street and also whatever issues H Street has had recently it's significantly safer and more gentrified than Benning).

Also I've watched as several places we had our eye on in Trinidad have gone for 900k-1.1m (outside our budget) in the last couple years even with the higher rates so I would actually argue Trinidad is on an upswing. Enough of one that we can no longer afford a SFH there and could only get a condo. So it seems like not a lot of people are writing Trinidad off due to its proximity to H.

For me, it is the value. Trinidad is already very expensive and the price of upswing is baked in. Anacostia and Randle Heights have a lot of values and prices are still reasonable so we ended up buying there.

I wasn't saying no to Trinidad, I was saying people had said not to buy in Trindad because they thought H St has declined. H St is still a fairy tale compared to 15 years ago when there was virtually nothing minus a couple of bars and a restaurant; no large grocery store other than the Safeway at the Starburst, no large apartment buildings, entire stretches of abandoned property, no gym class locations like Orange Theory, etc and not many people in general. I always find those posts comical as H St is still a far, far cry from what it was and has some great restaurants still. If you know the area, it has had a million and one restaurant openings and closings in the past 15 years so I don't see much new and restaurant turnover itself is NOT new.

And to the person who said there are only vape shops, that is a literal lie from a troll. Maketto, Hiraya (delicious and one of Bon Apetit's most anticipated restaurant openings in 2023), Toki (still some of the best ramen I've ever had), Granville Moores, Little Grande, Bronze, Queen Vic, the Pug, Haymaker, Dumpling Hot Pot, Tiki Garden, Ethiopic, and on and on. Why would you lie like that?

PP you forgot Daru - Michelin guide restaurant.

If you haven’t noticed the down turn on H street you are not paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Hood ridge is bad. You have better places in NoVA or DC than Woodbridge.

Woodbridge has a lot of crime. Not a good place to live.

What are you talking about? Woodridge is great.

Sorry, Woodridge in DC is great. Woodbridge in VA is not so great.

We looked in Woodridge but ultimately felt like there wasn’t much of a community feel and not that much to walk to. Ended up in Mount Rainier and love it.

[Anonymous]

I think one of the PPs was right. EOTR areas like Anacostia, deadwood are good for appreciation in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Kingman Park streets 21/23 to Oklahoma specifically, generally don't have people standing around (Benning rd is another story, but it is its own world).

People say H St is declining so no to Trinidad, but also I feel like people who say H St is declining have literally no memory of H St 15-17 years ago before it improved. It remains to this day vastly different and vastly better, I went there when there was only 2-3 restaurants like Granville Moore's and some liquor stores. H St has constantly churned/replaced restaurants over 15 years but everyone freaks out about restaurant closings in the recent 2 years though it's nothing new.

The state of RFK remains the biggest question mark and, should something happen there, the biggest potential to cause growth in the adjacent neighborhood including across the river. However, nothing has happened yet in whatever 15-20 years of the city trying to get something to happen. Senator Steve Daines from Utah was the most recent GOP person to block development of that site in committee.

Super weird to suggest Kingman Park (which is close to Benning Road) and then reject Trinidad for being too close to H Street (Trinidad is several blocks separated from H Street and also whatever issues H Street has had recently it's significantly safer and more gentrified than Benning).

Also I've watched as several places we had our eye on in Trinidad have gone for 900k-1.1m (outside our budget) in the last couple years even with the higher rates so I would actually argue Trinidad is on an upswing. Enough of one that we can no longer afford a SFH there and could only get a condo. So it seems like not a lot of people are writing Trinidad off due to its proximity to H.

For me, it is the value. Trinidad is already very expensive and the price of upswing is baked in. Anacostia and Randle Heights have a lot of values and prices are still reasonable so we ended up buying there.

I wasn't saying no to Trinidad, I was saying people had said not to buy in Trindad because they thought H St has declined. H St is still a fairy tale compared to 15 years ago when there was virtually nothing minus a couple of bars and a restaurant; no large grocery store other than the Safeway at the Starburst, no large apartment buildings, entire stretches of abandoned property, no gym class locations like Orange Theory, etc and not many people in general. I always find those posts comical as H St is still a far, far cry from what it was and has some great restaurants still. If you know the area, it has had a million and one restaurant openings and closings in the past 15 years so I don't see much new and restaurant turnover itself is NOT new.

And to the person who said there are only vape shops, that is a literal lie from a troll. Maketto, Hiraya (delicious and one of Bon Apetit's most anticipated restaurant openings in 2023), Toki (still some of the best ramen I've ever had), Granville Moores, Little Grande, Bronze, Queen Vic, the Pug, Haymaker, Dumpling Hot Pot, Tiki Garden, Ethiopic, and on and on. Why would you lie like that?

PP you forgot Daru - Michelin guide restaurant.

If you haven’t noticed the down turn on H street you are not paying attention.

What's going on on H street? I haven't been in a while, and last time it looked like a hot fast appreciating area. We went out there some time ago, it was ok.

[Anonymous]

Prices will go up like everything tied to inflation but those areas will also be the first and hardest impacted by fluctuations. You will earn every dollar made when homesteading

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That's why I see smart money going towards renovating buildings in Anacostia and around while dumb retail clients are overpaying for H street and other hyped areas in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:That's why I see smart money going towards renovating buildings in Anacostia and around while dumb retail clients are overpaying for H street and other hyped areas in DC.

Not sure if you're referring to Anacostia or "Anacostia," but outside of a few areas right by the bridge that will entirely depend on whether DC's plan for Anacostia development actually happens (big if knowing DC) EOTR will probably remain flat for a while considering DC's slow growth.

EOTR is a great place to buy an affordable home and live in it for a while, particularly if you buy near a metro, but it's absolutely not going to explode in value. I've lived EOTR for nearly a decade now and watch real estate closely, homes are sitting on the market. It's not getting worse or anything, it's continually getting incrementally better, but while every new house is being bought by respectable middle class people, there is basically no commercial gentrification, which is what drives appreciation. If you buy EOTR today you will absolutely get a wonderful and convenient place to live but you won't get a cute cafe or hip bar anytime soon and that's what blows up your equity.

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But also think about the future appreciation growth even if slight gentrification would started happening. I am seeing it in my neighborhood of Fairlawn that a lot of educated folks are moving in. I like the development along MLK avenue as funding is secured and tons of new buildings are coming up.