Algebra appeal after SOL results for Grade 6 ?

[Anonymous]

My kid's AAP center middle school let my kid did the assessment in July. It is on computer, just after test, my kid was placed in Algebra I honors due to my kid's very good score on the the assessment.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone have appealed at Rachel Carson recently this year or last year ? Was wondering if it's just appeal or test ? .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone have appealed at Rachel Carson recently this year or last year ? Was wondering if it's just appeal or test ? .

That’s the school asking for the test. I’m the OP.

[Anonymous]

Granted this is dated, but in 2013, FCPS published data showing that 75% of 7th graders taking Algebra 1 had qualified by meeting both IAAT and SOL thresholds. The remaining 25% of students were accounted for by parent appeal, administrator placement, and students who took tests outside of FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone have appealed at Rachel Carson recently this year or last year ? Was wondering if it's just appeal or test ? .

That’s the school asking for the test. I’m the OP.

I am not surprised. Carson has a good number of kids taking Algebra 1 H in 7th grade, they don’t need bodies to fill a class the way some other MS do. It makes sense that they would have a more strict process to make sure a student is ready for Algebra in 7th. I am guessing, and this is pure speculation, that they don’t advertise that there is a test because they don’t want parents prepping their kids for it over the course of the summer. They want kids to test in because they know the material and are ready for it. Like I said, pure speculation on my part.

They probably don’t want to encourage students to take the class who did not meet the original threshold.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone have appealed at Rachel Carson recently this year or last year ? Was wondering if it's just appeal or test ? .

That’s the school asking for the test. I’m the OP.

I am not surprised. Carson has a good number of kids taking Algebra 1 H in 7th grade, they don’t need bodies to fill a class the way some other MS do. It makes sense that they would have a more strict process to make sure a student is ready for Algebra in 7th. I am guessing, and this is pure speculation, that they don’t advertise that there is a test because they don’t want parents prepping their kids for it over the course of the summer. They want kids to test in because they know the material and are ready for it. Like I said, pure speculation on my part.

They probably don’t want to encourage students to take the class who did not meet the original threshold.

I’ve heard they usually don’t do this so it’s surprising… I was able to have it moved since we are on vacation next week… but that also means waiting almost until school starts to know!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone have appealed at Rachel Carson recently this year or last year ? Was wondering if it's just appeal or test ? .

That’s the school asking for the test. I’m the OP.

I am not surprised. Carson has a good number of kids taking Algebra 1 H in 7th grade, they don’t need bodies to fill a class the way some other MS do. It makes sense that they would have a more strict process to make sure a student is ready for Algebra in 7th. I am guessing, and this is pure speculation, that they don’t advertise that there is a test because they don’t want parents prepping their kids for it over the course of the summer. They want kids to test in because they know the material and are ready for it. Like I said, pure speculation on my part.

They probably don’t want to encourage students to take the class who did not meet the original threshold.

DD went to Rocky. Also a school known to have lots of kids taking Algebra 1 H in 7th grade. Lots of her classmates got in either on appeal, or because their scores were close enough to the threshold.

[Anonymous]

Has the kid totally learned in his own? A self starter with zero supplementing from you, a tutor, or any Kumon/RSM/Mathnasium/etc. vendor? Then… I might consider them an independent learner and ready.

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Anonymous wrote:Has the kid totally learned in his own? A self starter with zero supplementing from you, a tutor, or any Kumon/RSM/Mathnasium/etc. vendor? Then… I might consider them an independent learner and ready.

We are in Fairfax County. Any kid I know in my child’s AAP class is in at least one of these programs or has a private tutor. Some of my child’s kids have said they prefer school to summer because they do more work in summer!!!! So very doubtful in the richer areas of Fairfax kids aren’t doing this.

[Anonymous]

Would love to get any tips to get above 500 in SOL . I have seen many posts saying that kid who was good at Math had struggle acing Grade 6 SOL . Any resources that you have used for SOL and IAAT that have helped your kids ace it through .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would love to get any tips to get above 500 in SOL . I have seen many posts saying that kid who was good at Math had struggle acing Grade 6 SOL . Any resources that you have used for SOL and IAAT that have helped your kids ace it through .

My child just used the IOWA prep books that everyone was using and that’s it. But he got an 87 since he panicked and left questions blank. I didn’t realize kids were taking prep classes for it. For the SOL he did go to mathnasium just for practicing concepts for a few weeks. He got a 525. We appealed the algebra thing and waiting for results.

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Anonymous wrote:Would love to get any tips to get above 500 in SOL . I have seen many posts saying that kid who was good at Math had struggle acing Grade 6 SOL . Any resources that you have used for SOL and IAAT that have helped your kids ace it through .

My child just used the IOWA prep books that everyone was using and that’s it. But he got an 87 since he panicked and left questions blank. I didn’t realize kids were taking prep classes for it. For the SOL he did go to mathnasium just for practicing concepts for a few weeks. He got a 525. We appealed the algebra thing and waiting for results.

And that’s true. I also know some kids who did great on the IOWA but for in mid to low 400s in the SOL.

[Anonymous]

None of my son’s friends do any type of tutoring or math enrichment and they all got into Algebra 1 in 7th with no appeal. I am only talking about his four good friends who were in Advanced Math. He does RSM, he loves math competitions, but did not do any IAAT prep or specific SOL prep. He scored in the 99th percentile for the IAAT and a perfect score on the SOL.

We are at a school with the cluster model for AAP and most of the kids choose to stay at the base school. It is not an AAP focused school.

One of the kids we know who tested into Algebra 1 H is choosing to do 7th H because he just isn’t into math.

There is nothing wrong with taking Algebra in 8th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None of my son’s friends do any type of tutoring or math enrichment and they all got into Algebra 1 in 7th with no appeal. I am only talking about his four good friends who were in Advanced Math. He does RSM, he loves math competitions, but did not do any IAAT prep or specific SOL prep. He scored in the 99th percentile for the IAAT and a perfect score on the SOL.

We are at a school with the cluster model for AAP and most of the kids choose to stay at the base school. It is not an AAP focused school.

One of the kids we know who tested into Algebra 1 H is choosing to do 7th H because he just isn’t into math.

There is nothing wrong with taking Algebra in 8th grade.

RSM is also an enrichment that does prep one for the SOLs and IAAT. Though not directly for those tests, it does help them master the concepts (which is a good thing!) My child does mathnasium. They don’t directly coach for these tests but again help them understand the concepts. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that either. But I do know there are definitely IOWA prep classes. At the end of it, everyone wants to do well. And if you are tutored, you will only truly underhand the concepts if you have the smarts and capabilities to do so. This is what I don’t understand with people having a thing against these types of programs. In real life, you need to work hard to achieve your goals. If kids can work hard and achieve their goals, what problem do people have with this? Whether they are prepped or unprepped, they still need to get the grades in school. Let them do it in the way they feel most prepared. Some don’t need extra help and some do! Who cares as long as they are working hard and trying their best to do well?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of my son’s friends do any type of tutoring or math enrichment and they all got into Algebra 1 in 7th with no appeal. I am only talking about his four good friends who were in Advanced Math. He does RSM, he loves math competitions, but did not do any IAAT prep or specific SOL prep. He scored in the 99th percentile for the IAAT and a perfect score on the SOL.

We are at a school with the cluster model for AAP and most of the kids choose to stay at the base school. It is not an AAP focused school.

One of the kids we know who tested into Algebra 1 H is choosing to do 7th H because he just isn’t into math.

There is nothing wrong with taking Algebra in 8th grade.

RSM is also an enrichment that does prep one for the SOLs and IAAT. Though not directly for those tests, it does help them master the concepts (which is a good thing!) My child does mathnasium. They don’t directly coach for these tests but again help them understand the concepts. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that either. But I do know there are definitely IOWA prep classes. At the end of it, everyone wants to do well. And if you are tutored, you will only truly underhand the concepts if you have the smarts and capabilities to do so. This is what I don’t understand with people having a thing against these types of programs. In real life, you need to work hard to achieve your goals. If kids can work hard and achieve their goals, what problem do people have with this? Whether they are prepped or unprepped, they still need to get the grades in school. Let them do it in the way they feel most prepared. Some don’t need extra help and some do! Who cares as long as they are working hard and trying their best to do well?

Agreed, my son is the only one of his friends who does any math enrichment and they all made it into Algebra 1 H. He knows of one other kid in his grade that was doing math enrichment. It is possible that other kids were and just didn’t talk about it but I would be surprised. This is a school where people don’t care about AAP. Plenty of kids qualify without prep or tutoring or enrichment. 75% of the Advanced Math kids pass the 7th grade SOL advanced at his school. A high percentage go into Algebra 1 H without any enrichment or prep. Most of those kids will take 7th H because they are not interested enough in math to want to take Algebra in 7th and their parents know that Algebra in 7th sets them up for some tough high school classes. If the kid doesn’t love math, then there is no point in rushing them.

Is it the kids goal or is it the parents goal? Are the kids stressing over the exams? Because they shouldn’t be. If they are strong in math, the IAAT and SOL should be easy for them. If they are not easy for the kid then maybe the parents should re-evaluate the situation. There is no need to rush.

We are at RSM, DS asks to take the class. He tells us what his classmates have to say and most of them are there because their parents make them go not because they ask to go. The math competition class is mainly kids who love math and want to be there but the grade level class is a different story.