Metro Jumping

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if people walk through the turnstiles. I pay because I know I'm supposed to. I'd love it if they could figure out a way to cut down on fare evasion so the system isn't deprived of revenue, but I'm not personally bothered by the fact that some people are not paying when I am.

Fare evasion is theft of services. I'm bothered by increasing crime and disorder, even if it's non-felonious. The fact that we've become more resigned to all of it in DC is a sad and stark illustration of Sen. Moynihan's phrase about "defining deviancy down."

It isn't increased crime and disorder, though.

People who don't even ride Metro posting about crime and disorder on Metro, is like me posting about the long lines at Disney World, which I have never been to.

1. People who ride Metro regularly resent the punks and freeloaders who jump the gates or refuse to pay the fare. They also resent the service cuts (bus lines, frequency of service). Metro's loss from fare theft adds to Metro's fiscal challenge. Metro's other response is to ask DC and other jurisdictions to pay more, which means that law-abiding, tax-paying riders pay twice.

2. Long lines at Disney world don't increase the price of admission or a ticket to a Disney film. Metro fare theft costs all of us.

3. Metro fare theft contributes to a feeling of greater lawlessness on Metro, that manifests itself in greater and lesser offenses (assault, theft, open pot smoking, etc.)

Are you one of them? I ride Metro regularly, and I don't. I do resent the surrounding jurisdictions that want to freeload off WMATA without providing a proper, reliable, dedicated funding stream.

I ride the metro multiple times a day and I resent it. I ESPECIALLY resent the threat of personal assault (that’s what it is) from someone trying to come up behind me and shove me through the fare gate to get in free

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

100% not true. A ridiculous claim

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if people walk through the turnstiles. I pay because I know I'm supposed to. I'd love it if they could figure out a way to cut down on fare evasion so the system isn't deprived of revenue, but I'm not personally bothered by the fact that some people are not paying when I am.

Fare evasion is theft of services. I'm bothered by increasing crime and disorder, even if it's non-felonious. The fact that we've become more resigned to all of it in DC is a sad and stark illustration of Sen. Moynihan's phrase about "defining deviancy down."

It isn't increased crime and disorder, though.

People who don't even ride Metro posting about crime and disorder on Metro, is like me posting about the long lines at Disney World, which I have never been to.

1. People who ride Metro regularly resent the punks and freeloaders who jump the gates or refuse to pay the fare. They also resent the service cuts (bus lines, frequency of service). Metro's loss from fare theft adds to Metro's fiscal challenge. Metro's other response is to ask DC and other jurisdictions to pay more, which means that law-abiding, tax-paying riders pay twice.

2. Long lines at Disney world don't increase the price of admission or a ticket to a Disney film. Metro fare theft costs all of us.

3. Metro fare theft contributes to a feeling of greater lawlessness on Metro, that manifests itself in greater and lesser offenses (assault, theft, open pot smoking, etc.)

Are you one of them? I ride Metro regularly, and I don't. I do resent the surrounding jurisdictions that want to freeload off WMATA without providing a proper, reliable, dedicated funding stream.

I ride the metro multiple times a day and I resent it. I ESPECIALLY resent the threat of personal assault (that’s what it is) from someone trying to come up behind me and shove me through the fare gate to get in free

I consider this assault as well. S/thing bad is bound to come of this to a paying customer. They may as well just remove the barriers, but folks will likely continue to shove and cause mayhem since they enjoy it and feel entitled to do so. There should be an overall crackdown. They've lost me as a rider, for sure

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if people walk through the turnstiles. I pay because I know I'm supposed to. I'd love it if they could figure out a way to cut down on fare evasion so the system isn't deprived of revenue, but I'm not personally bothered by the fact that some people are not paying when I am.

Fare evasion is theft of services. I'm bothered by increasing crime and disorder, even if it's non-felonious. The fact that we've become more resigned to all of it in DC is a sad and stark illustration of Sen. Moynihan's phrase about "defining deviancy down."

It isn't increased crime and disorder, though.

People who don't even ride Metro posting about crime and disorder on Metro, is like me posting about the long lines at Disney World, which I have never been to.

1. People who ride Metro regularly resent the punks and freeloaders who jump the gates or refuse to pay the fare. They also resent the service cuts (bus lines, frequency of service). Metro's loss from fare theft adds to Metro's fiscal challenge. Metro's other response is to ask DC and other jurisdictions to pay more, which means that law-abiding, tax-paying riders pay twice.

2. Long lines at Disney world don't increase the price of admission or a ticket to a Disney film. Metro fare theft costs all of us.

3. Metro fare theft contributes to a feeling of greater lawlessness on Metro, that manifests itself in greater and lesser offenses (assault, theft, open pot smoking, etc.)

Comparing the Metro to Disney is beyond dense. The Metro is very arguably an essential public facility. Disney is a luxury facility and privately owners. The attempt to minimize fare jumping - likely born from a progressive desire to avoid discussing the impacts of crime - miserably fails here.

[Anonymous]

I ride Metro multiple times a week and while I see some fare jumpers I’ve never had one be aggressive with me. However the new gates make it challenging with a small child- I’ve gotten stuck multiple times on the opposite side of my 3 year old, because it closes too quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else annoyed that jumpers now walk over sides of the turnstiles? It’s so much more obvious and disruptive. Especially, large groups.

GOP or chaos.

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Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Why are you assuming the unhoused person in this story isn’t a cis white male? The biases in this forum are unreal.

I didn't say her or she was. I said a cishet White male more likely to assault you than some random unhoused person. Moving to another car with more White men is increasing your risk, not reducing it. You are safer in the car with fewer people even if one of the passengers is an unhoused cishet White male.

Please provide the basis for this claim (& specifically in DC). What data are you using?

https://www.commerce.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/hau-chg-mythsfacts-12-8-2016.pdf

DP. Do you really not know the difference between Washington state and Washington, D.C.? LOL!

Do you think the unhoused in DC are somehow more violent than the unhoused in Washington?

DP: It's quite obvious that the housed in DC are more violent than the housed in Washington, so why would the unhoused be much different?