Metro Jumping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Metro shouldn't ask MD/VA for extra tax dollars until they enforce fare evasion.

It’s a failed system at this point, they should let it die. Maybe just run a few well-policed express trains from the suburbs into DC, two stops, max.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

Sorry there is nothing racist about avoiding a person smoking drugs and screaming. PP never even mentioned the persons race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

I get that "unhoused" is considered politically correct to replace "homeless" but how can you tell if someone in the metro has a home or not? Seems like "unstable poor" might be more accurate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be a daily Metro commuter; I haven’t been near a Metro track in years because to do so activates my anxiety to panic levels. And yes, I have a diagnosis of panic disorder and have taken meds for decades.

My metro panic developed from claustrophobia but now I’m sorry to report is multifaceted. I have no interest in facing my fears as I’ve done with airplane travel. I simply will not ride Metro.

As challenging as airplane travel can be, at least the passenger sitting next to you is not lighting up a joint mid-flight and likely didn’t vault past the security checkpoint and the gate agent to board the plane without paying.

But who cares if the person next to you vaulted over the turnstile? Why would the fact that they didn’t pay make you more anxious?

Fare evasion is theft of services. And you can be sure that anyone who commits assault, robbery or some other crime likely didn’t pay a faire to ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be a daily Metro commuter; I haven’t been near a Metro track in years because to do so activates my anxiety to panic levels. And yes, I have a diagnosis of panic disorder and have taken meds for decades.

My metro panic developed from claustrophobia but now I’m sorry to report is multifaceted. I have no interest in facing my fears as I’ve done with airplane travel. I simply will not ride Metro.

As challenging as airplane travel can be, at least the passenger sitting next to you is not lighting up a joint mid-flight and likely didn’t vault past the security checkpoint and the gate agent to board the plane without paying.

But who cares if the person next to you vaulted over the turnstile? Why would the fact that they didn’t pay make you more anxious?

Fare evasion is theft of services. And you can be sure that anyone who commits assault, robbery or some other crime likely didn’t pay a faire to ride.

OK, but that doesn't mean that the person next to you who didn't pay likely is going to commit assault or robbery. Besides, once you're on the train, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether the other people in the system paid or not when they walked in, except in a small handful of cases where you see people entering when you do.

Do you ride Metro regularly? Or you just have an opinion on how it's sketchy now because people aren't paying? I commute to and from work by Metro two or three days a week, and I really am not remotely bothered by individual people not paying, except insofar as it's obviously not good for the system if they're not collecting fares. I pay. I don't care if the person next to me paid. None of them have assaulted me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be a daily Metro commuter; I haven’t been near a Metro track in years because to do so activates my anxiety to panic levels. And yes, I have a diagnosis of panic disorder and have taken meds for decades.

My metro panic developed from claustrophobia but now I’m sorry to report is multifaceted. I have no interest in facing my fears as I’ve done with airplane travel. I simply will not ride Metro.

As challenging as airplane travel can be, at least the passenger sitting next to you is not lighting up a joint mid-flight and likely didn’t vault past the security checkpoint and the gate agent to board the plane without paying.

But who cares if the person next to you vaulted over the turnstile? Why would the fact that they didn’t pay make you more anxious?

Fare evasion is theft of services. And you can be sure that anyone who commits assault, robbery or some other crime likely didn’t pay a faire to ride.

OK, but that doesn't mean that the person next to you who didn't pay likely is going to commit assault or robbery. Besides, once you're on the train, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether the other people in the system paid or not when they walked in, except in a small handful of cases where you see people entering when you do.

Do you ride Metro regularly? Or you just have an opinion on how it's sketchy now because people aren't paying? I commute to and from work by Metro two or three days a week, and I really am not remotely bothered by individual people not paying, except insofar as it's obviously not good for the system if they're not collecting fares. I pay. I don't care if the person next to me paid. None of them have assaulted me.

There is a strong correlation between people who commit this crime and people who commit other crimes. People are generally not selectively anti-social.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

NP. Show me the statistics that this is true in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metro shouldn't ask MD/VA for extra tax dollars until they enforce fare evasion.

It’s a failed system at this point, they should let it die. Maybe just run a few well-policed express trains from the suburbs into DC, two stops, max.

I like this idea. Rush hour express trains make a lot of sense, perhaps skipping very other stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Why are you assuming the unhoused person in this story isn’t a cis white male? The biases in this forum are unreal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Why are you assuming the unhoused person in this story isn’t a cis white male? The biases in this forum are unreal.

I didn't say her or she was. I said a cishet White male more likely to assault you than some random unhoused person. Moving to another car with more White men is increasing your risk, not reducing it. You are safer in the car with fewer people even if one of the passengers is an unhoused cishet White male.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Why are you assuming the unhoused person in this story isn’t a cis white male? The biases in this forum are unreal.

I didn't say her or she was. I said a cishet White male more likely to assault you than some random unhoused person. Moving to another car with more White men is increasing your risk, not reducing it. You are safer in the car with fewer people even if one of the passengers is an unhoused cishet White male.

Please provide the basis for this claim (& specifically in DC). What data are you using?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Why are you assuming the unhoused person in this story isn’t a cis white male? The biases in this forum are unreal.

I didn't say her or she was. I said a cishet White male more likely to assault you than some random unhoused person. Moving to another car with more White men is increasing your risk, not reducing it. You are safer in the car with fewer people even if one of the passengers is an unhoused cishet White male.

This makes no sense. According to you ciswhite males riding metro around DC are more likely to assault you, so stay in the car with a possible ciswhite male getting high on a non-mellowing drug and screaming obscenities? Also, potentially ingest something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last time I rode metro an unhoused man was smoking drugs that were not marijuana and screaming obscenities.

A bunch of people, including myself, get off as quickly as possible and move to a different car. I always wonder about the people that stayed.

They weren't racists.

lol…back in my day trolls at least tried a little bit.

OK. How about, "Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be assaulted by a cishet White male than an unhoused person." Moving to another car just puts you in more danger.

Do you think we are stupid? No you are in fact NOT more likely to be assaulted by a cishet white male on DC metro. You should check your obvious racist bias. SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be a daily Metro commuter; I haven’t been near a Metro track in years because to do so activates my anxiety to panic levels. And yes, I have a diagnosis of panic disorder and have taken meds for decades.

My metro panic developed from claustrophobia but now I’m sorry to report is multifaceted. I have no interest in facing my fears as I’ve done with airplane travel. I simply will not ride Metro.

As challenging as airplane travel can be, at least the passenger sitting next to you is not lighting up a joint mid-flight and likely didn’t vault past the security checkpoint and the gate agent to board the plane without paying.

But who cares if the person next to you vaulted over the turnstile? Why would the fact that they didn’t pay make you more anxious?

Fare evasion is theft of services. And you can be sure that anyone who commits assault, robbery or some other crime likely didn’t pay a faire to ride.

OK, but that doesn't mean that the person next to you who didn't pay likely is going to commit assault or robbery. Besides, once you're on the train, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether the other people in the system paid or not when they walked in, except in a small handful of cases where you see people entering when you do.

Do you ride Metro regularly? Or you just have an opinion on how it's sketchy now because people aren't paying? I commute to and from work by Metro two or three days a week, and I really am not remotely bothered by individual people not paying, except insofar as it's obviously not good for the system if they're not collecting fares. I pay. I don't care if the person next to me paid. None of them have assaulted me.

There is a strong correlation between people who commit this crime and people who commit other crimes. People are generally not selectively anti-social.

Yes, but even if 100 percent of crime committed on Metro is committed by people who don't pay their fares, we don't know (a) what percentage of people who don't pay their fares commit other crimes (it's surely a small one, though) or (b) who among your fellow passengers hasn't paid their fares. So again, I don't worry about it when I'm on Metro.