Why is this election any different?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are we facing the most consequential presidential election of our time? Why every election is labeled as such? Isn't every election consequential? Every second of every life is consequential? Why dramatize whatever election we happen to be facing as THE ONE? Is it because for first time we have two equally bad choices?

The choices aren't "equally" bad but it is the first time in our history we don't have at least one major party candidate that most can agree is fit to lead the country for the duration of the term they are seeking. For this reason, this election does present us with the two weakest major party candidates in American history. Acknowledging this fact and demanding better from our two failing major political parties is the first crucial step in recovery by 2028.

We can demand better, but polling and other metrics suggest that Biden is the only democrat who can beat Trump. So that is our choice, an old Biden or an authoritarian.

In 2028, the country will have two open primaries where ideas and young blood will have a chance, but for right now, even traditional conservatives are voting for Biden because they know what is at stake.

Come on, you don't know what's going to happen in 2028. At all. The fact that we will have young blood is totally wrong. We might but I don't know why the young blood wouldn't want to go all in as a Dem in this election because running v Trump is not a hard race! The other unknown is whether 2028 will see better times for any of us if Biden gets elected. Not suggesting it would be better with Trump but I don't know how much better Biden will make out, truly I don't. It could be that we're in such shit that GOP running anyone except for Trump gets elected. We're in much deeper waters if that happens from a SCOTUS perspective and if they have a strong candidate that could actually mean 8 more years (gasp!). I would actually go with Trump now and get it over with actually. I do not believe he can screw us up anymore than we are already with 2 wars + inflation + Kamala as Biden's back up. It's the Devil you know that is a safer bet than the devil you don't. Biden's definitely not all there anymore or if he is, he won't be for another 4 years.

If Trump gets elected., there won't be valid presidential elections in 2028. I don't think you are getting it. He tried a coup once, and it failed. His appointees in the federal judiciary and supreme court are delaying things so he has a chance to do it again.

Such fearmongering brought on by media companies exploiting the stupid. Stop watching CNN and MSNBC.

More corporate media that really doesn’t care if Trump is back. You can pretend that people who are rightly concerned about Trump and the GOP are just propagandized sheeple, but we saw you try to overthrow the government. We saw you happily gut women’s rights. We see your plans via Project 2025 and from Trump’s own mouth his desire to deport 11 million immigrants (legally or not, I don’t think he’d care, or you, either. That’s white nationalism for you). And that’s after he let covid destroy our economy and millions of lives.

Trump sucks.

[Anonymous]

Trump and Biden both suck. Third party votes all the way! But since Biden has lost most supporters he is going to suffer a big loss in November and the country will be ruled by Trump! Oh well this country deserves Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

[Anonymous]

I'd ask them open ended questions and remind them of more than 44 people who served in Trump's cabinet, only four support his reelection campaign: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cabinet-endorsements-rcna96648

9 in 10 of the professionals who know him best and have worked with him closely, including his own Vice President, won't endorse him. Ask them why that is? He's either a terrible judge of character or he's a terrible President (or both). That doesn't mean they need to vote for Biden. But it also doesn't mean that they need to vote for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd ask them open ended questions and remind them of more than 44 people who served in Trump's cabinet, only four support his reelection campaign: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cabinet-endorsements-rcna96648

9 in 10 of the professionals who know him best and have worked with him closely, including his own Vice President, won't endorse him. Ask them why that is? He's either a terrible judge of character or he's a terrible President (or both). That doesn't mean they need to vote for Biden. But it also doesn't mean that they need to vote for Trump.

Asking people "questions" for the sole purpose of getting them to see your point and agree with you is insulting--you think are being sneaky but your listener will see right through you and shut you down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd ask them open ended questions and remind them of more than 44 people who served in Trump's cabinet, only four support his reelection campaign: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cabinet-endorsements-rcna96648

9 in 10 of the professionals who know him best and have worked with him closely, including his own Vice President, won't endorse him. Ask them why that is? He's either a terrible judge of character or he's a terrible President (or both). That doesn't mean they need to vote for Biden. But it also doesn't mean that they need to vote for Trump.

Asking people "questions" for the sole purpose of getting them to see your point and agree with you is insulting--you think are being sneaky but your listener will see right through you and shut you down.

Why don't you answer the question then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump and Biden both suck. Third party votes all the way! But since Biden has lost most supporters he is going to suffer a big loss in November and the country will be ruled by Trump! Oh well this country deserves Trump.

Both sides serves Trump. Anyone both sidesing is trying to get the GOP into power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

+1 and for the PP's reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

"Totalitarianism is a political system and a form of government that prohibits opposition political parties, disregards and outlaws the political claims of individual and group opposition to the state, and controls the public sphere and the private sphere of society. In the field of political science, totalitarianism is the extreme form of authoritarianism, wherein all socio-political power is held by a dictator, who also controls the national politics and the peoples of the nation with continual propaganda campaigns that are broadcast by state-controlled and by friendly private mass communications media."

I'm not aware that progressives come anywhere close to this. However, there's only one party trying to prohibit opposition and control the public and private sphere of society and it ain't progressives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

As people’s values get more extreme they are more likely to have authoritarian leanings. It happens both on the left and on the right.

The more sure you are of your extreme beliefs, the more you might be interested in forcefully implementing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

As people’s values get more extreme they are more likely to have authoritarian leanings. It happens both on the left and on the right.

The more sure you are of your extreme beliefs, the more you might be interested in forcefully implementing them.

Show us, kind reader, where this has happened on the left. And then do the right please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

+1 and for the PP's reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

"Totalitarianism is a political system and a form of government that prohibits opposition political parties, disregards and outlaws the political claims of individual and group opposition to the state, and controls the public sphere and the private sphere of society. In the field of political science, totalitarianism is the extreme form of authoritarianism, wherein all socio-political power is held by a dictator, who also controls the national politics and the peoples of the nation with continual propaganda campaigns that are broadcast by state-controlled and by friendly private mass communications media."

I'm not aware that progressives come anywhere close to this. However, there's only one party trying to prohibit opposition and control the public and private sphere of society and it ain't progressives.

To make matters worse, the current ‘great awokening’ of parts of the activist left has accelerated the shift away from freedom. Woke progressives are increasingly embracing essentialist group identities. Ambiguous notions of ‘racial equity’ threaten to replace equality of opportunity with an anti-liberal equality of outcome. In this process, justice for individuals is routinely being replaced with justice for groups.

Leaving behind universalist ideals, however, undermines the principles of democratic equality, regardless of whether this assault is orchestrated by the right or the left. While the dangers of far-right ideologies of exclusion are – with good reason – widely discussed, the increasing anti-universalist tribalism in parts of the left is frequently glossed over as irrelevant or a right-wing illusion.

https://www.ips-journal.eu/topics/democracy-and-society/the-lure-of-progressive-authoritarianism-5543/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump and Biden both suck. Third party votes all the way! But since Biden has lost most supporters he is going to suffer a big loss in November and the country will be ruled by Trump! Oh well this country deserves Trump.

3rd party votes ensure Trump wins.

And no, students still consider Gaza as a 3rd/4th tier concern. Climate, gins, abortion and economy tops their lists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

As people’s values get more extreme they are more likely to have authoritarian leanings. It happens both on the left and on the right.

The more sure you are of your extreme beliefs, the more you might be interested in forcefully implementing them.

Show us, kind reader, where this has happened on the left. And then do the right please.

You agree with all that the left does so it is not possible to discuss this with you. You what they do as "right" and what everyone needs so you are fine with whatever means they use to implement. So, not I will not answer your gotcha question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple.

Also, he'll be dead in four years.

Trump is the difference.

But progressives are also totalitarian
-Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use
-Pronouns and gender
-Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated
and list goes one

At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate.

Please look up what totalitarian means. You’re misusing it.

As people’s values get more extreme they are more likely to have authoritarian leanings. It happens both on the left and on the right.

The more sure you are of your extreme beliefs, the more you might be interested in forcefully implementing them.

Show us, kind reader, where this has happened on the left. And then do the right please.

I am not trying to convice you, I am trying to warn people about you.