Are Any Fellow Jews Thinking of Changing Their Voting

[Anonymous]

Neither Antisemitism nor Islamophobia are due to average family struggling to manage life, its because of power hungry leaders whose actions make people paranoid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if you are Jewish or Muslim or a neutral observer, vote for American interests, not for interests of Israel or Palestine. Do consider candidate's moral standing, if their policies are based on self interest not morality or ethics, they aren't worthy of your vote.

As far as Trump goes, anyone who is good with division and hatred if it serves him well, isn't good for anyone, no matter which God we pray to. Same way Israel or Hamas's actions aren't good for anyone, even if we delude ourselves into thinking that.

Your vote does not matter, this country’s institutions have been captured. The psychopaths in charge will be coming for your children next as they rapidly lose power and influence abroad. Expecting anything else is naive.

[Anonymous]

even the most liberal of jews subscribe to a saying:

"is it good for the jews?"

it's a question asked about almost anything - politics, policy, culture, etc.

if you want to forecast how the jewish people will position themselves on any particular topic, put yourself in their shoes and first ask "is it good for the jews?", first and foremost.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if you are Jewish or Muslim or a neutral observer, vote for American interests, not for interests of Israel or Palestine. Do consider candidate's moral standing, if their policies are based on self interest not morality or ethics, they aren't worthy of your vote.

As far as Trump goes, anyone who is good with division and hatred if it serves him well, isn't good for anyone, no matter which God we pray to. Same way Israel or Hamas's actions aren't good for anyone, even if we delude ourselves into thinking that.

Your vote does not matter, this country’s institutions have been captured. The psychopaths in charge will be coming for your children next as they rapidly lose power and influence abroad. Expecting anything else is naive.

Crazy Q troll alert.

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Anonymous wrote:If your sole reason for switching your vote from Biden to Trump because all Biden did was support Israel and some jerks got upset about that, your priorities are really messed up.

Well Biden did not arrest the protesters.

You mean with his national police force that has jurisdiction on campus? Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one because that would make him a dictator.

Back during the ‘Nam protests presidents would call up the national guard to disperse protesters, often violently.

Really shows priorities. Peaceful protests against war got shut down by the guard, violent protests calling for Jewish genocide can go on without issue.

We look back on that time as anti-democratic and a shameful episode on our nation's history. By the way, the protesters were clearly right about Vietnam.

[Anonymous]

OP, and others, are being shortsighted. If you vote for Trump, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Jew too. I think some of those on campus are antisemetic, supporting Hamass, which is reprehensible. I also think that the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is real and that many on campus are trying to bring attention to that issue. I also think that Netanyahu isn’t doing himself or Israel any favors there or on the world stage. He is bad for Israel and the Jewish people I can hold many conflicting thoughts in my head at the same time.

I’m supporting Biden because Trump would be so much worse for this country and the world. Pulling out of NATO, allowing Putin to take over Ukraine, abortion bans, right wing judges, etc.

+1 Very shortsighted to vote purely on your emotional reaction to one policy that doesn't even really impact your daily life, or the national security of this country.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Jew and would probably vote for Trump at this point, having formerly voted for Biden. I may be swinging the pendulum too far, but words cannot express how absolutely disgusted I’ve been by the far left and DEI exclusion of and disregard for Jews and viewpoint diversity. It absolutely floors me that Jews, arguably the most discriminated against minority in history, are excluded from the DEI movement because it’s literally a competition for who is the most persecuted and oppressed in a “what have you done for me lately” DEI movement who doesn’t support minorities who lift themselves up and better themselves. It persuaded me that DEI is an anti-meritocracy that rewards the lazy and most whiny. To see the word genocide being causally thrown in Jews’ faces and to see Zionism always equated with Judaism and the outright antisemitism…… it made me realize the far left/radical Muslims are building a strong alliance against all Jews - American and Israeli - and I think this is the greatest threat to American Jews who have enjoyed many decades of safety and prosperity thanks to this great country’s protections of civil rights. Unfortunately, I think Trump will do a better job of protecting American Jews and Israeli Jews by failing to tolerate the far left and their antics. And I think the KKK/far right loonies are a lesser threat to American Jews in the short term because they will never align with the Arabs.

Amen. Could not say it any better.

The difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump had a son-in-law who was Jewish, who he clearly cares for, and clearly listened to on issues that were important to and impacted Jewish people. Obviously, Trump did not always make the decision we wanted him to make, but it was clear he actually considered us and our needs. I’ve seen nothing to suggest Biden cares at all about the Jewish people, or has any interest in listening to us or treating us as Americans. He certainly cares far more about pacifying and cozying up to the radical Islamic extremist movement that is currently targeting Jews as a part of their pro-Genocide “protests” then supporting American Jews and Israel in our time of need.

Biden and Dems supporting arms sales to Israel to fight Hamas is not enough? How is that " cozying up to the radical Islamic extremist movement"?

[Anonymous]

Did everyone forget the "Jews will not replace us" hillbillies chanting in Charlottesville who Trump called fine people? And anti semetic Stephen Miller? Why would any Jew vote for him?
Remember Ivana Trump wrote a book and said Donald kept Hitler's book on his night table?

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Anonymous wrote:Did everyone forget the "Jews will not replace us" hillbillies chanting in Charlottesville who Trump called fine people? And anti semetic Stephen Miller? Why would any Jew vote for him?
Remember Ivana Trump wrote a book and said Donald kept Hitler's book on his night table?

Jewish people traditionally value education and thinking but they’re as susceptible to propaganda as the next person. The billionaire owners of the media outlets want Trump back and they’re happy for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for insufficiently supportin Israel, for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly and for Muslims to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly too. This serves the GOP’s purpose, especially in a year when the GOP promises to end most rights entirely if they get back in power.

It would be terrifically short sighted for Jewish voters to support the GOP as you’d be right after the “illegals” and the Muslims in the GOP’s make America a Christian nation again plans.

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Anonymous wrote:If your sole reason for switching your vote from Biden to Trump because all Biden did was support Israel and some jerks got upset about that, your priorities are really messed up.

Well Biden did not arrest the protesters.

You mean with his national police force that has jurisdiction on campus? Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one because that would make him a dictator.

Back during the ‘Nam protests presidents would call up the national guard to disperse protesters, often violently.

Really shows priorities. Peaceful protests against war got shut down by the guard, violent protests calling for Jewish genocide can go on without issue.

We look back on that time as anti-democratic and a shameful episode on our nation's history. By the way, the protesters were clearly right about Vietnam.

Which is the point, our government was willing to sic the guard on anti-war protesters who were clearly in the right and protesting American involvement in Viet Nam, but refuses to dispatch the guard to protect innocent Jewish Americans being attacked and targeted by extremist Islamists and Hamas terrorists in our streets and colleges.

It shows a clear and inarguable bias that is not appropriate, and shows the level of anti-Semitism at the top reaches of our government.

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Anonymous wrote:Did everyone forget the "Jews will not replace us" hillbillies chanting in Charlottesville who Trump called fine people? And anti semetic Stephen Miller? Why would any Jew vote for him?
Remember Ivana Trump wrote a book and said Donald kept Hitler's book on his night table?

Jewish people traditionally value education and thinking but they’re as susceptible to propaganda as the next person. The billionaire owners of the media outlets want Trump back and they’re happy for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for insufficiently supportin Israel, for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly and for Muslims to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly too. This serves the GOP’s purpose, especially in a year when the GOP promises to end most rights entirely if they get back in power.

It would be terrifically short sighted for Jewish voters to support the GOP as you’d be right after the “illegals” and the Muslims in the GOP’s make America a Christian nation again plans.

Trump is loving this chaos. It's playing right into his hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I think Biden is doing as good a job as he can possibly do in this terrible situation.

The protesters hate Biden. They are not Democrats. It's really cutting off your nose to spite your face, and everyone's face, to vote for Trump - an actual anti-semite, who dines with Nazis. No thanks.

Plus I loathe everything Trump is and what he stands for.

So, no. I will be voting for Biden this November.

I will also vote opposite of the campus protesters. I’m disappointed that the students who are supposed to be among our brightest have fallen for Tik Tok propaganda. When challenged many of them have no idea of the issues.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, and others, are being shortsighted. If you vote for Trump, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Why?!?! What did the Trump administration do that was even remotely antisemitic?

I don’t even know how to respond to such a dumb blanket statement, but I’ll try.

Starting with FDR, pretty much every democratic president (with the notable exception of Clinton) has been a raging antisemite. FDR refused to let Jews trying to escape Nazi Germany into the US. FDR refused to bomb railways leading to concentration camps. He refused to bomb the camps themselves, too, of course. When Polish resistance worker, Jan Karski, met with FDR and detailed the Holocaust and begged him to help the Jews, FDR couldn’t care less and asked about how the horses were doing.

His wife hated Jews, too. She wrote appealing letters to her mom about how awful Jews were. (But who cares, she wrote the into to the American version of the Diary of Anne Frank, so all is forgiven.)

And yet American Jews love FDR. They thank god he was president. My guess is this cognitive dissonance is because of a tremendous guilt for basically looking the other way while their relatives (literally) were being murdered. They doubled down on their support of Democrats and for Civil Rights to appease that guilt. “See, we’re not really cowards or bad people, we’re helping the Blacks, right?”

And it’s gone on like that for several generations, despite all signs that the Democrats were growing increasingly antisemitic, of course, thinly veiled in anti-Zionism. Jimmy Carter alone should have moved American Jews to the right. And don’t get me started on Barry.

But, there’s always the ludicrous nonsensical argument that Trump supporters are Neo-nazis ready to start internment camps. Meanwhile, this ignores the reality that he has no affiliation with any far right groups and that most of his supporters are moderates who want a return to less inflation and stronger borders.

The reality is that most people, like my Jewish ass, who are probably going to vote for Trump are doing so because we are sick of DEI and leftist ideology infiltrating all of our institutions. We love our country and our borders and are disgusted to see a Palestinian flag flying over any campus in the US.

I’m sure Trump is a narcissist and a blow hard, and he’s hardly an ideal leader. But as I remember, because it wasn’t long ago, everything was better with his administration. And I could walk across a college campus without getting accosted for my Jewish face.

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Anonymous wrote:Did everyone forget the "Jews will not replace us" hillbillies chanting in Charlottesville who Trump called fine people? And anti semetic Stephen Miller? Why would any Jew vote for him?
Remember Ivana Trump wrote a book and said Donald kept Hitler's book on his night table?

Jewish people traditionally value education and thinking but they’re as susceptible to propaganda as the next person. The billionaire owners of the media outlets want Trump back and they’re happy for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for insufficiently supportin Israel, for Jewish voters to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly and for Muslims to be mad at Biden for supporting Israel too strongly too. This serves the GOP’s purpose, especially in a year when the GOP promises to end most rights entirely if they get back in power.

It would be terrifically short sighted for Jewish voters to support the GOP as you’d be right after the “illegals” and the Muslims in the GOP’s make America a Christian nation again plans.

Trump is loving this chaos. It's playing right into his hand.

The times that he is lucid, I think so. For the most part I think he’s too deep into dementia to care much one way or the other. His wretched fascist advisors are sure loving this crap though. Project 2025 will make short work out of non Christians; today’s GOP does not value the freedom to worship. They take it as a “we will force you to be Christian.”