B-student - suggestions for mid-size colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:The title of the thread is a bit misleading. With the other information and APs, this is not a B- student. So the recommendations would be different it were truly a B- student with lower other stats and courses.

OP already explained that it’s not a B- student. she was saying B student but put a hyphen after B for some reason. It is a solid B student who sometimes gets As but mostly Bs, no Cs.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Univ Dayton. Tons of merit, very loyal alumni, big sports school for basketball.

+1 Everyone I know whose kid has gone there says it's great.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Person is probably dictating. Spelling should be “wait” list.

That below 25% of VT - remember their stated goal of 40% 1st gen/URM. Also, remember they must serve the entire state. From FCPS, if a parent went to college, you need higher stats.

[Anonymous]

I didn't read all of the suggestions but it seems like there are some good ones.

One thing to consider...if you visit these schools and he really loves one, consider applying early decision if you don't need financial aid. I am convinced it got my kid, with a 3.8 weighted GPA and a not at all vigorous schedule, into a pretty competitive program at Syracuse. He really wanted to go there, had some relevant EC experience, and gushed over the school in his interview and application when possible.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Sometimes the only available rooms are in old dorms with weak floors. They can only hold skinny people, so that’s all they consider.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Person is probably dictating. Spelling should be “wait” list.

That below 25% of VT - remember their stated goal of 40% 1st gen/URM. Also, remember they must serve the entire state. From FCPS, if a parent went to college, you need higher stats.

So a student whose parent's went to college is handicapped in the process? That doesn't seem fair.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

It's a list of kids who are too fat to be admitted in the regular class. They have to lose weight or they can't be admitted.

[Anonymous]

Wow. That does not seem like a B student.

My dear child, who lives in DC and is not a VA resident, got into JMU with a 3.2 unweighted and no test scores. Moderately active in clubs and activities. So I don't think JMU is a stretch, unless maybe it's more competitive for in-state.

With those stats, Pitt would be in play. Gettysburg for sure, likely with some merit.

Does he know if he prefers urban/rural/subburban? A distance range?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfield, Trinity, GW, Elon....

Trinity is a much better school than the other three.

Trinity is better than GW??

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Person is probably dictating. Spelling should be “wait” list.

That below 25% of VT - remember their stated goal of 40% 1st gen/URM. Also, remember they must serve the entire state. From FCPS, if a parent went to college, you need higher stats.

So a student whose parent's went to college is handicapped in the process? That doesn't seem fair.

Kids of parents with college degrees have plenty of documented advantages in life. They’ll be just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Person is probably dictating. Spelling should be “wait” list.

That below 25% of VT - remember their stated goal of 40% 1st gen/URM. Also, remember they must serve the entire state. From FCPS, if a parent went to college, you need higher stats.

So a student whose parent's went to college is handicapped in the process? That doesn't seem fair.

Both DH and I graduated from VT but DS was rejected. Decent but not tippy-top stats from a NoVA high school. If DS had been from Danville or Bristol, or if DH and I hadn’t gone to college, I’m sure DS would’ve gotten in. VT doesn’t seem to want kids who are well prepared/likely to do well and graduate in 4 years. They are big into social engineering and it will be interesting to see how that affects graduation rates.

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Anonymous wrote:At our FCPS school, 3.9w is needed for JMU and 4.1w for VT (with some exceptions lower for certain majors and much higher needed for engineering).

So is his unweighted more like a 3.3? You can do the math pretty quickly. Are you including projected junior year grades? I know my daughter’s GPA jumped up after junior year, due to the number of weighted classes.

Penn State main campus, fall start, is generally looking for 3.7 UNweighted.

I don't know what the PP is talking about, but I can guarantee you it is NOT accurate. A 3.4 and a 1270 gets you in at JMU. That's based on 706 applicant data points at one of the upper (but not a Langley/McLean) FCPS HS.

OP, your son is definitely IN at JMU. No bones about it. VT depends on the major. If it's com sci or engineering, then it's a no.

That person's stats were much more accurate than your stat.

Definitely aim for at least a 4.1 and upper 1400 for VT to even be in the weight list hunt.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

An SAT in the upper 1400's would put you well above the (1410) 75th percentile SAT, and a 4.10 would put you at the median GPA. How does that translate to "weight" list?

Real life experience with VT admissions this year.

OPs scores are not even in weight list range for VT.

Am I missing something? What is a weight list?

Person is probably dictating. Spelling should be “wait” list.

That below 25% of VT - remember their stated goal of 40% 1st gen/URM. Also, remember they must serve the entire state. From FCPS, if a parent went to college, you need higher stats.

So a student whose parent's went to college is handicapped in the process? That doesn't seem fair.

Kids of parents with college degrees have plenty of documented advantages in life. They’ll be just fine.

Still not fair.

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Anonymous wrote:Univ Dayton. Tons of merit, very loyal alumni, big sports school for basketball.

Go, Flyers! My son is a junior at Univ of Dayton. Received a lot of merit, which made it equal to the cost of an in-state school (we're in Maryland), very loyal alumni, and the basketball team was in the NCAA Tournament this year. And if he wants to participate in sports, there's a very active and varied intramural sports program.

Around 8,000 undergrads and a very nice and manageable campus.

Another Dayton parent here!
I hope OP's kid checks out Dayton! Op, if you can, take him for a visit when there is a basketball game. Tickets through the school are always sold out (there are a lot of VERY dedicated alumni fans!) but you can buy tickets through stubhub.

There is an airport in Dayton, about 20 minutes from the school, and there are direct flights to DCA and IAD each day.

Another poster also recommending Dayton. That was the first school I thought about. Have a family member that attended that enjoyed their time there.

If you are looking for other ideas there is this list https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/a-plus. Your local library might also have a copy of “America's Best Colleges for B Students: A College Guide for Students Without Straight A's”.