Banneker HS - College and Score Outcomes

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Anonymous wrote:Also, that's not a comprehensive list. It was a list of preliminary commitments to attend, not a list of college acceptances; and when it was printed students were still deciding among offers, financial aid packages, and waiting to see if they were coming off of waitlists. Roughly half of the graduating class is represented here.

OK, but where is the full list? For a selective HS, getting a list of college acceptances and/or matriculations out to prospective students is fairly basic stuff. SAT and AP scores have their issues, but college acceptance outcomes are a key signal of school performance. That the Banneker administration can't seem to find it within themselves to produce a comprehensive list doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Hopefully, it detracts parents like yourself from considering the school for your own children. While I like to help incoming and prospective families, I'm beginning to see why Banneker parents were so quiet on this forum over the years.

How do you suggest parents evaluate the school for their prospective child?
We are told not to look at SAT scores. Don’t look at college outcomes. AP scores and IB scores are not great at Banneker. Is it racist to ask for any evidence that other schools are measured on? Shadow days are not allowed either.

What are you asking here? There's lots of public info and it all points in the same direction. Banneker has a lot of kids who are at grade level. It has some kids who are accelerated, very high-performing, and go to elite colleges. It has fewer than Walls. If you talk to people, they'll tell you that the kids are studious and the culture emphasizes that. Why does it matter exactly how many kids go to elite colleges? Some go. Far from everyone. You can tell that from the test scores, too. No one is keeping anything from you except the admissions processes, but that's a DCPS thing and not a Banneker thing specifically.

Do you understand the difference between primary information and a subjective assessment?

I understand the concept of a prior probability and it's very unclear what evidence you think is being kept from you that might result in enough of a shift in that to be worth all of this fuss and condescension.

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It’s actually pretty rare for schools to publish this kind of college data, isn’t it? If not, would someone please post a link to the Walls list? Or the STA list?

[Anonymous]

It is more common to get current college acceptance info from the students themselves, who typically run Instagram accounts to share out the news:

Banneker:
https://www.instagram.com/bbhs24commits/

Walls:
https://www.instagram.com/sww2024decisions/

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Oh, I love it. There are probably tiktoks too right? I'm a fed, though...

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Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, that's not a comprehensive list. It was a list of preliminary commitments to attend, not a list of college acceptances; and when it was printed students were still deciding among offers, financial aid packages, and waiting to see if they were coming off of waitlists. Roughly half of the graduating class is represented here.

OK, but where is the full list? For a selective HS, getting a list of college acceptances and/or matriculations out to prospective students is fairly basic stuff. SAT and AP scores have their issues, but college acceptance outcomes are a key signal of school performance. That the Banneker administration can't seem to find it within themselves to produce a comprehensive list doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Hopefully, it detracts parents like yourself from considering the school for your own children. While I like to help incoming and prospective families, I'm beginning to see why Banneker parents were so quiet on this forum over the years.

How do you suggest parents evaluate the school for their prospective child?
We are told not to look at SAT scores. Don’t look at college outcomes. AP scores and IB scores are not great at Banneker. Is it racist to ask for any evidence that other schools are measured on? Shadow days are not allowed either.

Since your Larlo is so brilliant and deserving, I have no doubt he would have his pick of schools and breeze right into TJ and RMIB and Blair. So just go ahead over there.

dp: That's a useless response. The PP posed a fair question.

no, PP demanded a complete list of all college enrollments as a way to advertise to high SES parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

I think it was a tough admissions year everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

Most of the students take algebra in 9th grade, so your kid would indeed been multiple years ahead of the average student, and already with higher SAT scores than average.

It's such a random process at all the selective admissions high schools, and it's crazy that DCPS is not trying to provide options for your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, that's not a comprehensive list. It was a list of preliminary commitments to attend, not a list of college acceptances; and when it was printed students were still deciding among offers, financial aid packages, and waiting to see if they were coming off of waitlists. Roughly half of the graduating class is represented here.

OK, but where is the full list? For a selective HS, getting a list of college acceptances and/or matriculations out to prospective students is fairly basic stuff. SAT and AP scores have their issues, but college acceptance outcomes are a key signal of school performance. That the Banneker administration can't seem to find it within themselves to produce a comprehensive list doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Hopefully, it detracts parents like yourself from considering the school for your own children. While I like to help incoming and prospective families, I'm beginning to see why Banneker parents were so quiet on this forum over the years.

How do you suggest parents evaluate the school for their prospective child?
We are told not to look at SAT scores. Don’t look at college outcomes. AP scores and IB scores are not great at Banneker. Is it racist to ask for any evidence that other schools are measured on? Shadow days are not allowed either.

Since your Larlo is so brilliant and deserving, I have no doubt he would have his pick of schools and breeze right into TJ and RMIB and Blair. So just go ahead over there.

dp: That's a useless response. The PP posed a fair question.

no, PP demanded a complete list of all college enrollments as a way to advertise to high SES parents.

No one "demanded" squat. And since when are "high SES parents" the only people who cared about college enrolments?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s actually pretty rare for schools to publish this kind of college data, isn’t it? If not, would someone please post a link to the Walls list? Or the STA list?

It's three years old, but here's the 2020 Walls list: https://www.swwhs.org/news/wondering-about-the-schools-to-which-class-of-2020-penguins-were-accepted

What is STA?

[Anonymous]

Does Banneker not allow shadow days? I was under the impression that Walls allows them once a kid has been accepted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Banneker not allow shadow days? I was under the impression that Walls allows them once a kid has been accepted

Banneker does not.

I can understand that having 8th graders around could be disruptive for current students (although presumably the selection process should exclude potentially disruptive prospective students) but it would be nice if prospective students were given an opportunity to get a better feel for the school before having to make a decision on whether to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

Banneker is a Humanities focused school so no you won't get the STEM feel you want. It's not hard to figure out. I'd look at moving if you feel like your kid needs more of a challenge. TJ would probably be great..Blair also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

Banneker is a Humanities focused school so no you won't get the STEM feel you want. It's not hard to figure out. I'd look at moving if you feel like your kid needs more of a challenge. TJ would probably be great..Blair also.

Do you not understand the residency requirements that apply to public schools across the country or are you trying to make a different point about where you would like people from certain backgrounds to move to? I'm genuinely curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look up DCPS SAT scores. I think on the DCPS site. There's a spreadsheet. You can also find AP scores. Walls is the only school that's just across the board higher. JR is obviously huge and high-variance.

Thanks. Found the SAT (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat) and AP (https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets) spreadsheets. The averages are indeed as you say. I would have expected Banneker to do better but I take it that there is a very long thread from a few years back on that topic.

Why do you think your child will score in line with others? I have a Banneker student who has scored 5 on APs and 1540 on SATs. You’re aware this is a Title 1 school. The kids are all very studious and bright but there are some kids who have tough home lives. If your kid doesn’t have these challenges, s/he will score high. Test score track HHI closely.

My personable Asian 8th grader who finds 10th grade math/Trigonometry easy at a DC charter, scored 600s on the SAT for admission to a Johns Hopkins CTY STEM camp and has a 3.9 GPA wasn't so much as waitlisted at Banneker. I'm left with the impression that Banneker doesn't knock itself out on the STEM achievement front. We're staying at the charter, which the kid isn't wild about, with new appreciation for it.

Banneker is a Humanities focused school so no you won't get the STEM feel you want. It's not hard to figure out. I'd look at moving if you feel like your kid needs more of a challenge. TJ would probably be great..Blair also.

Do you not understand the residency requirements that apply to public schools across the country or are you trying to make a different point about where you would like people from certain backgrounds to move to? I'm genuinely curious.

DP who referenced TJ, Blair and RMIB. No, it has nothing to do with race. Just making a point about how annoying parents are when they declare nothing is possibly good enough for their “advanced” child. Ok friend, try your hand at the VERY selective and demanding public programs just a short move away. Oh, Larlo won’t get into TJ? You don’t say …