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Does anybody really think that when a child commits suicide it has nothing whatsoever to do with their parents or how they were parented or the relationship past and present with their parents?
I know this is a hard truth to face. But c'mon. Brings to mind the famous JFK quote: Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. |
This was publicly reported news-it's not like the poster went searching. |
Plenty of people have wonderful relationships with their parents and go on to commit suicide, and plenty of people are estranged from their parents and never have a suicidal thought in their life. We don't know why Garrison chose to do this. We do know that suicide is often a culmination of many things, not just one thing, and that the act itself is incredibly impulsive. Doing it successfully often depends on whether or not you have a method lying around. If you don't have a gun on hand, which unfortunately Garrison did, you have time to cool down. It sounds to me like an acute suicidal crisis, which can come on quickly and then deescalate as quickly as it came. His roommates also told police he had a bit of a drinking problem. The guy adopted a cat less than a week before. To me, that does not sound like someone seething about his relationship with his father for two or three years. But here's the thing about Kody. Even if it had to do with the estrangement...Kody is in hell right now. He is paying a price that far, far outweighs what he did. He called his child an a hole on television. That does not mean he deserves to bury that child. We don't need to tell him that he is an awful parent. He will live with that thought for the rest of his life. I have nothing but compassion for him in this moment. |
No one here disagrees with this. People are just saying the way Kody treated him may have been a contributing factor. Everyone has shown signs of compassion though. |
Why post it at all? |
Because they wanted to. |
I’m OP. I haven’t posted since the OP. I posted because I was shocked and really sad and knew other people followed the family since I posted in the large sister wives thread back when it was active. I don’t know, reaching out to other humans who might feel the same way since I don’t know anyone who watched in real life. The way the thread has gone I regret posting it. I think most of these posts have been shameful. I’ll never understand someone who hears about a tragedy like this and believes that is the moment to pile in the family. |
| This is a reminder that guns at home are almost always a bad idea especially for young males. It’s too easy for an impulsive decision to have permanent consequences. And we know their brains are not fully formed. Odds are good that in a month, a week, or even a day, he would not have been suicidal. |
Please, this is DCUM. All threads end up criticizing the people involved. You included a trigger warning so you knew it could upset people. |
This. To have a deadly weapon or drug in your possession is too tempting for depressed people. |
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Kody was completely checked out of his adult children’s lives. Except for Robyn’s adult children, of course. Do people really think that a father that doesn’t remember his own child’s birthday is a good dad? How are Kody’s feelings so important in this thread? He basically had told Janelle to make their adult sons move out, while he was not even visiting any of them. Has your father ever treated you like Kody has treated his adult sons with Janelle? How did you feel about being ignored by your father? Did it make you lonely and sad because your father and role model was not in your life? Did you have any other adult male role models to ask for help and support as a young man trying to navigate the world? |
(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody. You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide? |
WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death. Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement. |
Why did you read it? Why did you comment? |