People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop talking about how Trump will kill us all. He won't. The world will not explode. It just won't. He is not that powerful, I hate him as much as the next person, but he gets way too much legitimacy. He's a buffoon, total Morin who can't keep his emotions in check and pushes hate. But that's all he is. He's not the almighty and I'm sick of people who will vote for the joke Biden who looks like he's falling apart to be the leader of this country. No good choices either of them and to suggest not voting for either is somehow voting for one is idiotic. It means there's no vote for either. And it does not automatically go to Trump, it truly does not. And even if Trump should win, so be it. He won once and we all made it. Have some faith that this country isn't made of everyone like him! Have some faith that there are good people everywhere. I'm a liberal who hates everything the GOP wants to do but it's a collective effort. There's a ton of stuff that our government needs to sort out. It's not just Trump and if it is then our system is beyond repair and we need things to really blow up in order to fix it. We are going to get through with Trump winning as painful as it would be but Biden winning is just as much pain I promise. I'm a new poster and I have no problem with someone voting their conscious and as a liberal Dem, it makes me sick to have to listen to this crap about how if you don't love Biden you're going to help end the world it something. That's crazy talk. That's giving Trump the credit he wants.

Please read Project 2025 and understand, this is the GOP blueprint for the future of our Republic. People are not being hyperbolic about what a Trump win in 2024 would mean.

To a person, not a single Republican voter - and I’m talking about the people on here who are looking for any excuse at all to “not vote for Biden,” i.e., vote for Trump - will engage with either Project 2025 directly or indirectly. On some level they understand that a vote for anyone but Biden is essentially a vote for fascism, and they’re okay with that, but they know they’re not supposed to be okay with that. Hence the weak sauce dithering, blaming the Democratic Party for not running someone other than a successful incumbent President, the hemming and hawing and hoping they can just not vote for president and help elect Trump obliquely.

If a GOP gets in the White House, there will be no more impartial judiciary. There will be no more women’s rights. Minorities will lose most of their legal protections (and if you don’t believe that, look at the Roberts’ court’s decisions to date. That dumb cluck gutted the Voting Rights Act on purpose). The government would cease being an apolitical machine and would become the GOP’s machine for enacting their agenda - ending environmental protections, destroying education.

If you think FBI and DOJ are impartial now, you've lost your mind.

If you believe the government is apolitical today, you've lost your mind.

We're living in the DNC's machine for enacting their agenda, and it's quite nutty.

What other diatribes have ya got for me?

The DNC has completely lost it's way and is no longer providing any benefit to the American public. This being said; the RNC is threatening to nominate Trump for a 3rd consecutive election. They make the DNC appear functional. When will Americans stand up for themselves and fire these two awful entities? We can do so much better.

So the infrastrucute bill is no benefit to the american public?
The CHIPS act, which is bringing high tech manufacturing back to the US is not a benefit?


It's so funny how GOP politicans show up at the various ribbon cuttings and ground breaking events even though the routinely oppose such legilsation that, you know, actually benefits the american public.

What legiislation has the GOP passed that benefits the American public? please be specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop talking about how Trump will kill us all. He won't. The world will not explode. It just won't. He is not that powerful, I hate him as much as the next person, but he gets way too much legitimacy. He's a buffoon, total Morin who can't keep his emotions in check and pushes hate. But that's all he is. He's not the almighty and I'm sick of people who will vote for the joke Biden who looks like he's falling apart to be the leader of this country. No good choices either of them and to suggest not voting for either is somehow voting for one is idiotic. It means there's no vote for either. And it does not automatically go to Trump, it truly does not. And even if Trump should win, so be it. He won once and we all made it. Have some faith that this country isn't made of everyone like him! Have some faith that there are good people everywhere. I'm a liberal who hates everything the GOP wants to do but it's a collective effort. There's a ton of stuff that our government needs to sort out. It's not just Trump and if it is then our system is beyond repair and we need things to really blow up in order to fix it. We are going to get through with Trump winning as painful as it would be but Biden winning is just as much pain I promise. I'm a new poster and I have no problem with someone voting their conscious and as a liberal Dem, it makes me sick to have to listen to this crap about how if you don't love Biden you're going to help end the world it something. That's crazy talk. That's giving Trump the credit he wants.

Please read Project 2025 and understand, this is the GOP blueprint for the future of our Republic. People are not being hyperbolic about what a Trump win in 2024 would mean.

To a person, not a single Republican voter - and I’m talking about the people on here who are looking for any excuse at all to “not vote for Biden,” i.e., vote for Trump - will engage with either Project 2025 directly or indirectly. On some level they understand that a vote for anyone but Biden is essentially a vote for fascism, and they’re okay with that, but they know they’re not supposed to be okay with that. Hence the weak sauce dithering, blaming the Democratic Party for not running someone other than a successful incumbent President, the hemming and hawing and hoping they can just not vote for president and help elect Trump obliquely.

If a GOP gets in the White House, there will be no more impartial judiciary. There will be no more women’s rights. Minorities will lose most of their legal protections (and if you don’t believe that, look at the Roberts’ court’s decisions to date. That dumb cluck gutted the Voting Rights Act on purpose). The government would cease being an apolitical machine and would become the GOP’s machine for enacting their agenda - ending environmental protections, destroying education.

If you think FBI and DOJ are impartial now, you've lost your mind.

If you believe the government is apolitical today, you've lost your mind.

We're living in the DNC's machine for enacting their agenda, and it's quite nutty.

What other diatribes have ya got for me?

You haven't been paying attention to the very conservative/activist courts. Stripping away settled protextions and laws is not "DNC Machine's agenda"

The Democrats get elected, pass bills and execute per the laws. The GOP gets in power and installs judges who undo what the elected democrats implement. At the same time, they also strip rights and impose a fundamentalist religious regime on to the country.

Settled protections? What are those?

Also, you democrats spout this often enough: "Fundamental Transformation" .

You know what? F your transformation. You absolutely suck. You reward bad behavior and denigrate good behavior. You install DA's who won't even prosecute violent crime because of idiocy like "restorative justice". NOPE.

And don't act like you don't.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/26/938425725/newly-elected-das-vow-to-continue-reforms-end-policies-deemed-unfair

[Anonymous]

The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

[Anonymous]

Kennedy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.

But what state is going a different way than 2020?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.

But what state is going a different way than 2020?

Michigan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.

But what state is going a different way than 2020?

Michigan

Very much doubt it. Trump is the darling of the Jewish vote

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.

Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.

But what state is going a different way than 2020?

Michigan

Biden may lose a few arab votes, but the UAW vote will come out in force for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop talking about how Trump will kill us all. He won't. The world will not explode. It just won't. He is not that powerful, I hate him as much as the next person, but he gets way too much legitimacy. He's a buffoon, total Morin who can't keep his emotions in check and pushes hate. But that's all he is. He's not the almighty and I'm sick of people who will vote for the joke Biden who looks like he's falling apart to be the leader of this country. No good choices either of them and to suggest not voting for either is somehow voting for one is idiotic. It means there's no vote for either. And it does not automatically go to Trump, it truly does not. And even if Trump should win, so be it. He won once and we all made it. Have some faith that this country isn't made of everyone like him! Have some faith that there are good people everywhere. I'm a liberal who hates everything the GOP wants to do but it's a collective effort. There's a ton of stuff that our government needs to sort out. It's not just Trump and if it is then our system is beyond repair and we need things to really blow up in order to fix it. We are going to get through with Trump winning as painful as it would be but Biden winning is just as much pain I promise. I'm a new poster and I have no problem with someone voting their conscious and as a liberal Dem, it makes me sick to have to listen to this crap about how if you don't love Biden you're going to help end the world it something. That's crazy talk. That's giving Trump the credit he wants.

Please read Project 2025 and understand, this is the GOP blueprint for the future of our Republic. People are not being hyperbolic about what a Trump win in 2024 would mean.

To a person, not a single Republican voter - and I’m talking about the people on here who are looking for any excuse at all to “not vote for Biden,” i.e., vote for Trump - will engage with either Project 2025 directly or indirectly. On some level they understand that a vote for anyone but Biden is essentially a vote for fascism, and they’re okay with that, but they know they’re not supposed to be okay with that. Hence the weak sauce dithering, blaming the Democratic Party for not running someone other than a successful incumbent President, the hemming and hawing and hoping they can just not vote for president and help elect Trump obliquely.

If a GOP gets in the White House, there will be no more impartial judiciary. There will be no more women’s rights. Minorities will lose most of their legal protections (and if you don’t believe that, look at the Roberts’ court’s decisions to date. That dumb cluck gutted the Voting Rights Act on purpose). The government would cease being an apolitical machine and would become the GOP’s machine for enacting their agenda - ending environmental protections, destroying education.

If you think FBI and DOJ are impartial now, you've lost your mind.

If you believe the government is apolitical today, you've lost your mind.

We're living in the DNC's machine for enacting their agenda, and it's quite nutty.

What other diatribes have ya got for me?

You haven't been paying attention to the very conservative/activist courts. Stripping away settled protextions and laws is not "DNC Machine's agenda"

The Democrats get elected, pass bills and execute per the laws. The GOP gets in power and installs judges who undo what the elected democrats implement. At the same time, they also strip rights and impose a fundamentalist religious regime on to the country.

Settled protections? What are those?

Also, you democrats spout this often enough: "Fundamental Transformation" .

You know what? F your transformation. You absolutely suck. You reward bad behavior and denigrate good behavior. You install DA's who won't even prosecute violent crime because of idiocy like "restorative justice". NOPE.

And don't act like you don't.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/26/938425725/newly-elected-das-vow-to-continue-reforms-end-policies-deemed-unfair

Roe was a settled protection. IVF has never been illegal. We cannot say the same thing currently for the people of Alabama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

Only a complete moron would think that Trump is the hero of Gaza and of blacks. But do go on trying to sell that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to vote at all. I'm not sure why who I vote vote is your business. I don't like Trump nor Biden nor any others currently in the race. So be it that I sit this one out. My vote for nobody is a vote.

But KKK will vote, racists will vote, book banners will vote. You are letting them choose the direction of the country
They will always vote. A candidate is like a bus....which will take you closer to where you want to be. You don't need to marry them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop talking about how Trump will kill us all. He won't. The world will not explode. It just won't. He is not that powerful, I hate him as much as the next person, but he gets way too much legitimacy. He's a buffoon, total Morin who can't keep his emotions in check and pushes hate. But that's all he is. He's not the almighty and I'm sick of people who will vote for the joke Biden who looks like he's falling apart to be the leader of this country. No good choices either of them and to suggest not voting for either is somehow voting for one is idiotic. It means there's no vote for either. And it does not automatically go to Trump, it truly does not. And even if Trump should win, so be it. He won once and we all made it. Have some faith that this country isn't made of everyone like him! Have some faith that there are good people everywhere. I'm a liberal who hates everything the GOP wants to do but it's a collective effort. There's a ton of stuff that our government needs to sort out. It's not just Trump and if it is then our system is beyond repair and we need things to really blow up in order to fix it. We are going to get through with Trump winning as painful as it would be but Biden winning is just as much pain I promise. I'm a new poster and I have no problem with someone voting their conscious and as a liberal Dem, it makes me sick to have to listen to this crap about how if you don't love Biden you're going to help end the world it something. That's crazy talk. That's giving Trump the credit he wants.

Please read Project 2025 and understand, this is the GOP blueprint for the future of our Republic. People are not being hyperbolic about what a Trump win in 2024 would mean.

To a person, not a single Republican voter - and I’m talking about the people on here who are looking for any excuse at all to “not vote for Biden,” i.e., vote for Trump - will engage with either Project 2025 directly or indirectly. On some level they understand that a vote for anyone but Biden is essentially a vote for fascism, and they’re okay with that, but they know they’re not supposed to be okay with that. Hence the weak sauce dithering, blaming the Democratic Party for not running someone other than a successful incumbent President, the hemming and hawing and hoping they can just not vote for president and help elect Trump obliquely.

If a GOP gets in the White House, there will be no more impartial judiciary. There will be no more women’s rights. Minorities will lose most of their legal protections (and if you don’t believe that, look at the Roberts’ court’s decisions to date. That dumb cluck gutted the Voting Rights Act on purpose). The government would cease being an apolitical machine and would become the GOP’s machine for enacting their agenda - ending environmental protections, destroying education.

If you think FBI and DOJ are impartial now, you've lost your mind.

If you believe the government is apolitical today, you've lost your mind.

We're living in the DNC's machine for enacting their agenda, and it's quite nutty.

What other diatribes have ya got for me?

The DNC has completely lost it's way and is no longer providing any benefit to the American public. This being said; the RNC is threatening to nominate Trump for a 3rd consecutive election. They make the DNC appear functional. When will Americans stand up for themselves and fire these two awful entities? We can do so much better.

What can I do? I’m listening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.

Only a complete moron would think that Trump is the hero of Gaza and of blacks. But do go on trying to sell that.

You guys keep wanting to make it about comparing Biden to Trump. Is that really your bar? Some of us think Biden and the Dems can do better. They aren't going to do better if no one holds them accountable when they don't. If we keep throwing voted at the Dems while they nominate a dementia patient to lead us, and spend money on wars most of us don't approve of, while Americans struggle to afford literally everything, nothing will change.

They'll keep pointing at Trump and the GOP, demanding our votes, and doing nothing to actually improve our lives. They'll just do a bunch of hand-wringing while letting the GOP to continue taking away rights, do nothing about gun control, do nothing about inflation and corporate price gouging, and do nothing to undo the tax cuts for the rich.

The ONLY thing these people will listen to is potentially losing their seats of power. I will not continue to allow the threat of Trump to let the Democrats completely off the hook for doing anything that actually improve our lives.