Anti-diversity trends.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.



Okay. There's a lot of flawed reasoning, but do what makes you happy.


Well, when admissions criteria favors whites, that is a problem. A big mistake that created so many social problems historically. Asking for favoritism to end is the most natural thing. You should not favor whites, black, blues, and greens. I don't see any flawed reasoning here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


So how does one measure "best and brightest" in a kindergarten applicant?


Their block building is on point and their coloring is within the lines
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine any co-ed DC school moving away from DEI: Sidwell, GDS, Maret, Field, WIS, etc. Maybe consider coed?


Very few of them really embrace DEI, especially the socioeconomic aspect of DEI.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


So how does one measure "best and brightest" in a kindergarten applicant?


Teachers write rec letters. Those are very objective. Schools also do some sort of admissions assessment. Teachers are experienced enough to see some signals during the assessment. I don't mean academic signals per se. Also, not every child gives those signals though, especially the ones that are shy and introvert.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


So how does one measure "best and brightest" in a kindergarten applicant?


Their block building is on point and their coloring is within the lines


Block building skills show something. Coloring within lines also show something. No need to belittle them. Otherwise they would not be part of preschool curriculum. But assessments look at much more than these skills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine any co-ed DC school moving away from DEI: Sidwell, GDS, Maret, Field, WIS, etc. Maybe consider coed?


Very few of them really embrace DEI, especially the socioeconomic aspect of DEI.


I’m so sick of hearing this. Most schools have at least 20% of kids on financial aid. My kid’s school has over 25% financial aid. We full pay $56,000 and donate about 50k a year. How much more would you like people to pay so your kid can get a free ride? It’s not a nonprofit FFS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine any co-ed DC school moving away from DEI: Sidwell, GDS, Maret, Field, WIS, etc. Maybe consider coed?


Very few of them really embrace DEI, especially the socioeconomic aspect of DEI.


I’m so sick of hearing this. Most schools have at least 20% of kids on financial aid. My kid’s school has over 25% financial aid. We full pay $56,000 and donate about 50k a year. How much more would you like people to pay so your kid can get a free ride? It’s not a nonprofit FFS.


You may be sick of hearing it but that doesn’t make it any less true. You pay at least $55k/yr. That means your school is not socioeconomically diverse. It’s just not possible. That’s what you are choosing.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Race absolutely SHOULD be a factor in admissions decisions to ensure a diverse cohort, which is better for learning. Most people value diversity.


Where is your proof for this? What does this even mean? Better for whom? And why? What is the mechanism that would cause kids to learn… better?


https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/student-teaching/advice/importance-of-cultural-diversity-in-classroom/#:~:text=When%20working%20and%20learning%20with,in%20a%20diverse%20working%20environment.

https://inclusive.princeton.edu/sites/g/files/toruqf1831/files/pu-report-diversity-outcomes.pdf

https://soeonline.american.edu/blog/benefits-of-inclusion-and-diversity-in-the-classroom/

https://www.apa.org/ed/precollege/psychology-teacher-network/introductory-psychology/benefits-of-diversity

Spend some time reading these. They will help answer your questions.



So far I have read the first link, which “answers my questions” with the following:

“WHY IS IT MULTICULTURAL EDUCATION IMPORTANT TO STUDENTS?

It is important to remind ourselves why diversity and cultural awareness is so crucial in the classroom and the benefits it can have on students now and in the long-term. Teaching diversity exposes students to various cultural and social groups, preparing students to become better citizens in their communities. These culturally responsive teaching strategies will help you to promote diversity in the classroom.

With these culturally responsive teaching strategies in mind, it’s important to remind ourselves why diversity and cultural awareness is so crucial in the classroom and the benefits it can have on students now and in the long-term.

Students Become More Empathetic
Promoting awareness and creating a personal connection with diverse cultures in the classroom can prevent students from developing prejudices later in life. It allows them to empathize with people different from themselves since they’re more aware of the experiences someone of a different race or cultural group may face.

Students Gain a Better Understanding of Lessons and People
When working and learning with people from a variety of backgrounds and cultures present in the classroom, students gain a more comprehensive understanding of the subject matter. It also teaches students how to use their own strengths and points of view to contribute in a diverse working environment.

Students Become More Open-Minded
Naturally, by exposing students to a diverse range of opinions, thoughts, and cultural backgrounds, you’re encouraging them to be more open-minded later in life. This will make them open to new ideas and be able to attain a greater comprehension on a topic by taking in different points of view.

Students Feel More Confident and Safe
Students who learn about different cultures during their education feel more comfortable and safe with these differences later in life. This allows them to interact in a wider range of social groups and feel more confident in themselves as well as in their interactions with others.

Students Are Better Prepared for a Diverse Workplace
With the rise of globalization, it’s more important to be able to work with people from different cultures and social groups. If students are exposed to diversity and learn cultural awareness in the classroom, it sets them up to flourish in the workforce.”


You DO realize, don’t you, that this is at best a poorly written essay about what benefits the author THINKS students may receive from being in a diverse classroom? And that it is not supported whatsoever by any research, facts, or even personal anecdotes?

And even if we accept the premise (which we should not because it’s just some random person’s opinion as to what benefits MIGHT be, as far as I can tell) it still wouldn’t even answer the question as to how diversity IMPROVES LEARNING. Sure, maybe kids will grow up to be more open minded and less prejudiced, but how do either of those possible outcomes help them with their calculus?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


You cannot have the best and the brightest when the school charges such a high price to attend, unless you school is completely need blind. You might be able to have the best and brightest of a very small section of the population.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


You cannot have the best and the brightest when the school charges such a high price to attend, unless you school is completely need blind. You might be able to have the best and brightest of a very small section of the population.



One way for schools is to encourage the community to apply. The bigger the application pool, the better for school. And then as you say schools should try to be as much need blind as possible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine any co-ed DC school moving away from DEI: Sidwell, GDS, Maret, Field, WIS, etc. Maybe consider coed?


Very few of them really embrace DEI, especially the socioeconomic aspect of DEI.


I’m so sick of hearing this. Most schools have at least 20% of kids on financial aid. My kid’s school has over 25% financial aid. We full pay $56,000 and donate about 50k a year. How much more would you like people to pay so your kid can get a free ride? It’s not a nonprofit FFS.


You may be sick of hearing it but that doesn’t make it any less true. You pay at least $55k/yr. That means your school is not socioeconomically diverse. It’s just not possible. That’s what you are choosing.



On financial aid includes the kids getting a 1k discount. How many students at your school live in section 8 housing? Qualify for medicaid?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


You cannot have the best and the brightest when the school charges such a high price to attend, unless you school is completely need blind. You might be able to have the best and brightest of a very small section of the population.



One way for schools is to encourage the community to apply. The bigger the application pool, the better for school. And then as you say schools should try to be as much need blind as possible.


need blind is not the same as full need met. Unless you think the best and the brightest kids are UMC and UC kids, you aren't actually getting them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not
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