Jefferson Scholar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Echols? Is it a separate application? My in state kid applied EA to UVA but never heard of Echols scholarship

It’s not a scholarship. It’s an honors program that frees students from core requirements, gives registration priority, allows them to pursue an interdisciplinary major, etc. Students are invited during the admissions process

Thank you! So if you're invited, it is in the acceptance letter? Or do early applicants, if invited, have to wait until RD decisions are released to find out?

Not in the acceptance letter. Last year they sent EA decisions out the first week of February and Echols notices went out to both ED and EA applicants on 2/15.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

Yes. Jefferson Scholars are selected by a completely separate process - outside of UVa. Admissions is part of UVa. It is uncommon but it has happened in the past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

Yes. Jefferson Scholars are selected by a completely separate process - outside of UVa. Admissions is part of UVa. It is uncommon but it has happened in the past.

Familiar w the process. My kid has their school’s nomination.
I know several nominees from various schools that didn’t get UVA offers - but I’ve never heard of anyone being offered a Jeff but not getting accepted into UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

Yes. Jefferson Scholars are selected by a completely separate process - outside of UVa. Admissions is part of UVa. It is uncommon but it has happened in the past.

Familiar w the process. My kid has their school’s nomination.
I know several nominees from various schools that didn’t get UVA offers - but I’ve never heard of anyone being offered a Jeff but not getting accepted into UVA.

this is correct: when the Jefferson gets to the final round, which is february, they communicate with UVA and they all get in. Before that, even if a semifinalist, it is not guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Tip for those reading this thread: if you really want to be a Jeff Scholar, go to a high school that is allocated one scholarship every year. Historically this was the case at St Chris ….

[Anonymous]

For people asking about timing, I posted what I remember about my DC's Jefferson process on page 2. Good luck to everyone!

[Anonymous]

My friend's relative's kid got a Jefferson scholarship who had two parents who attended ivy schools and my friend and husband, the relatives, were ivy school professors and also attended ivies. Kid went to a small private school and did really well but wasn't published or anything. Seemed like kind of an inside game for kids who like was mentioned before probably would have gone to an ivy instead.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

Yes. Jefferson Scholars are selected by a completely separate process - outside of UVa. Admissions is part of UVa. It is uncommon but it has happened in the past.

Familiar w the process. My kid has their school’s nomination.
I know several nominees from various schools that didn’t get UVA offers - but I’ve never heard of anyone being offered a Jeff but not getting accepted into UVA.

this is correct: when the Jefferson gets to the final round, which is february, they communicate with UVA and they all get in. Before that, even if a semifinalist, it is not guaranteed.

This must be somewhat new, as there definitely have been a small number of cases in the past where a student was offered a Jefferson by the Alumni Association, but UVa did not offer same student admission. This sounds like a useful fix to how it works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]That’s crazy that it’s a separate pr[/b]ocess. The other schools I’m familiar with offer finalist status with acceptance. Maybe the Jefferson scholars pool is larger.

It's not crazy if you understand how it came to be. It was started solely by alums who wanted to give these very generous scholarships in order to lure to UVA students that otherwise might go Ivy. My DS got his school nomination and made it to regionals but not to the finals, which are actually done at UVA. A friend of his (same church) did get it, though. By the way, your high school has to be a "nominating school" which requires paperwork to be filed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Scholarship

The real craziness (which has happened) is when a Jefferson Scholar does not get admitted to UVA

Yep. I know a kid who got it and turned it down for Princeton.
It makes zero sense for a kid to get turned down for UVA after being impressive enough to get this scholarship. (?)

You might be talking about my daughter. She chose Princeton.

So your daughter got into both Princeton And UVA…. AND got the Jeff but turned it down for Princeton?

I can see that. The PP tho was talking about someone who was offered the Jeff but didn’t get into UVA. Does that really happen??

Yes. Jefferson Scholars are selected by a completely separate process - outside of UVa. Admissions is part of UVa. It is uncommon but it has happened in the past.

Familiar w the process. My kid has their school’s nomination.
I know several nominees from various schools that didn’t get UVA offers - but I’ve never heard of anyone being offered a Jeff but not getting accepted into UVA.

this is correct: when the Jefferson gets to the final round, which is february, they communicate with UVA and they all get in. Before that, even if a semifinalist, it is not guaranteed.

This must be somewhat new, as there definitely have been a small number of cases in the past where a student was offered a Jefferson by the Alumni Association, but UVa did not offer same student admission. This sounds like a useful fix to how it works.

The Alumni Association is not responsible for the Jefferson Scholars Program. The Jefferson Scholars Foundation is. Totally separate from the university and the Alumni Association.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tip for those reading this thread: if you really want to be a Jeff Scholar, go to a high school that is allocated one scholarship every year. Historically this was the case at St Chris ….

Ha! +1000 people on this thread have no idea of the various "factors" involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tip for those reading this thread: if you really want to be a Jeff Scholar, go to a high school that is allocated one scholarship every year. Historically this was the case at St Chris ….

Ha! +1000 people on this thread have no idea of the various "factors" involved.

Which high schools are these?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tip for those reading this thread: if you really want to be a Jeff Scholar, go to a high school that is allocated one scholarship every year. Historically this was the case at St Chris ….

Ha! +1000 people on this thread have no idea of the various "factors" involved.

I don't understand either of these posts. Care to explain?

[Anonymous]

My oos DC was the one nominee from their list, didn’t make it past semi but was accepted. Didn’t attend.