Oberlin for non-super woke

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people derailing the thread? OP said her kid is middle-of-the-road not conservative. I also have a moderate kid interested in Oberlin (identifies Dem but not super progressive, more pragmatic) and am interested in actual experiences not Trumpers' thoughts.

What moderate “middle of the road” Republicans fail to realize is that woke fanatics regard them as just as bad as “Trumpers”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

We have a child there now and our experience is the same as the above. Other points to add, are that our child got a very good well paying internship that the school facilitated as a freshman in a liberal arts field. They also have a lot of friends who play sports that probably could not have made a team at a better sports school. There is a strong performing arts vibe that permeates everything. Parents weekend was filled with dance shows, music concerts, comedy showcases and acapella; not a football game.

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Anonymous wrote:I would avoid schools like Oberlin like the plague. Employers don't want to deal with angry purple haired kids who think being asked to do work is a micro-agression.

Just vapid sorority girls from Rushtok who plan to name their first baby with Chad Kendra Scott? Look! I can do stereotypes too!

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

[Anonymous]

Thread Summary . . . .

20% parents of kids at Oberlin: "It's a good school, my kid is happy, and the liberal-activist reputation is overstated."

30% trolls with no personal knowledge of Oberlin: "Oberlin's reputation is liberal-activist, so it must be a dreadful place full of fire, brimstone, and purple hair."

50% online debaters who have forgotten the thread is about Oberlin: "I'm going to endlessly repeat my opinions on wokeness and DEI even though it's off-topic and will never, ever in a million years change anyone else's opinion on the matter. Nonetheless, I enjoy pouring my nuance-free opinions down an html void."

[Anonymous]

The ubiquity of music in a wide variety of forms and styles is a particularly special quality of Oberlin that is hard to replicate in many other places. It's not just that there's a conservatory, but its location in a small town area means that music just pervades everyday life there. I think it's really good for mental health to always be able to play or listen to live music in a collective setting. The music programs they have for non-conservatory students are really vibrant and there are so, so many opportunities to play/experiment for musicians of all levels. I think it's a more valuable quality than ever there--live music brings people off their screens and out of their headphones to have a collective experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

Even if Oberlin isn't as bad in reality as its image, I would worry about its brand value. I would feel the same way about Hillsdale. So many colleges out there, why attend the few where some percentage of potential employers will look at a resume and say, "oh hell no?"

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

Even if Oberlin isn't as bad in reality as its image, I would worry about its brand value. I would feel the same way about Hillsdale. So many colleges out there, why attend the few where some percentage of potential employers will look at a resume and say, "oh hell no?"

Look at Oberlin's career outcomes. They are excellent.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

Even if Oberlin isn't as bad in reality as its image, I would worry about its brand value. I would feel the same way about Hillsdale. So many colleges out there, why attend the few where some percentage of potential employers will look at a resume and say, "oh hell no?"

Look at Oberlin's career outcomes. They are excellent.

Especially for STEM and music, my DC’s two main areas of interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

We have a child there now and our experience is the same as the above. Other points to add, are that our child got a very good well paying internship that the school facilitated as a freshman in a liberal arts field. They also have a lot of friends who play sports that probably could not have made a team at a better sports school. There is a strong performing arts vibe that permeates everything. Parents weekend was filled with dance shows, music concerts, comedy showcases and acapella; not a football game.

Doing poetry readings in a weed dispensary isn’t the type of internship most people are looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

It absolutely was, the use of the loaded term “woke” set the tone. It was a ridiculous bad faith question.

The short answer is anyone who uses “woke” as a pejorative these days is only going to be happy in whatever right-wing fantasyland they curate. The real world just doesn’t think like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, from a parent of an actual Oberlin student. We're nearing the end of our Oberlin journey as DC is a fourth year set to graduate this spring, but overall, it's been a pretty good experience. While not musical, DC is a STEM major and has found plenty of opportunities to do research and tutor within the science departments. DC is left-leaning but is not the outspoken activist type and has friends from across the political spectrum, none of whom are particularly loud about their personal beliefs. DC has a lot of friends who are STEM and creative writing majors, who also play in the college orchestra or study Musical Studies or sing in acapella or musical theatre groups - it's not an uncommon combination. Many students in the College taken secondary or beginner music lessons thru the conservatory. DC has met a number of Con and double degree students through language classes and other college classes and it's nice to have such a strong musical presence on campus and to go to concerts to support classmates and friends. Admittedly, DC does attend due to a generous merit scholarship, but we don't have any regrets about the experience as a whole and agree with a previous poster that the Oberlin experience allows for balance and exploration.

Thank you for answering in a substantive way (among all the nonsense!)

Well, the original question was in bad faith.

I don't believe it was was. --a pp with a moderate Dem kid who has similar questions about Oberlin given its stereotype. I'm perfectly prepared to accept posters' views who have actual experience with the campus, and am glad to know my kid wouldn't feel out of place there.

It absolutely was, the use of the loaded term “woke” set the tone. It was a ridiculous bad faith question.

The short answer is anyone who uses “woke” as a pejorative these days is only going to be happy in whatever right-wing fantasyland they curate. The real world just doesn’t think like that.

DP. Of course the real world thinks like that. Most people are sick to death of what's going on at "elite" college campuses, or in company HR offices. One doesn't have to be "right-wing" to feel that the LEFT-wing has seriously overstepped in recent years.

[Anonymous]

my DC is at Oberlin and has really liked it. Her classes have been rigorous and well taught. The kids seem kind to each other and their coop system for living and eating is very unique and rewarding for the kids who participate. Positives imo are the ability to take studio art classes even if you are not an art major, the ability to be in many of the pick up bands around the school even if you're not in the conservatory and the flexibility to double major.