Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

So much this! Only the Callie sympatheaizer(s) think only FCPS is in the wrong.

They are both wrong, but Callie should never have gotten the data. Period. FCPS shouldn’t be so lackadaisical that they put the burden on the receiver to protect my kids data when they just hand it out like candy. I’m not ok with that. If a business put this out as their data security policy (we make mistakes at times, and the burden of not being used for inappropriate purposes is solely on the receiver), I would never do business with them and neither would any of you.

No one is saying FCPS is blameless. No one. Two things can be true at once.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Umm. Both are culpable as has been stated multiple times. FCPS IT is woeful. Callie is worse — she clearly doesn’t care the system is broken and purposely made the problem bigger by publishing the data. Sad that she doesn’t see her part in this mess. She is not a white hat.

If your house got broken into many times by the same burglar because your front door doesn’t lock, at what point do you install a lock instead of blaming the burglar for continuing to walk in and lamenting how dare them.

We’d both be culpable. No insurance money for me, and the burgled should be jailed.

And yet, a good lawyer would get the burglar off. Cause that’s how the legal system works. But you’re right, you wouldn’t get any insurance money.

Just because a lawyer may get the burgler (Callie) off from serving time, doesn’t mean she’s an angel. She needs to be taken to court whether anyone sees a dime from her or not.

I think you’re confusing moral obligation with legal duty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

So much this! Only the Callie sympatheaizer(s) think only FCPS is in the wrong.

They are both wrong, but Callie should never have gotten the data. Period. FCPS shouldn’t be so lackadaisical that they put the burden on the receiver to protect my kids data when they just hand it out like candy. I’m not ok with that. If a business put this out as their data security policy (we make mistakes at times, and the burden of not being used for inappropriate purposes is solely on the receiver), I would never do business with them and neither would any of you.

No one is saying FCPS is blameless. No one. Two things can be true at once.

Sue Callie, lobby FCPS. Seems pretty one-sided to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

So much this! Only the Callie sympatheaizer(s) think only FCPS is in the wrong.

They are both wrong, but Callie should never have gotten the data. Period. FCPS shouldn’t be so lackadaisical that they put the burden on the receiver to protect my kids data when they just hand it out like candy. I’m not ok with that. If a business put this out as their data security policy (we make mistakes at times, and the burden of not being used for inappropriate purposes is solely on the receiver), I would never do business with them and neither would any of you.

No one is saying FCPS is blameless. No one. Two things can be true at once.

What’s the title of this thread? Mic drop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

So much this! Only the Callie sympatheaizer(s) think only FCPS is in the wrong.

They are both wrong, but Callie should never have gotten the data. Period. FCPS shouldn’t be so lackadaisical that they put the burden on the receiver to protect my kids data when they just hand it out like candy. I’m not ok with that. If a business put this out as their data security policy (we make mistakes at times, and the burden of not being used for inappropriate purposes is solely on the receiver), I would never do business with them and neither would any of you.

No one is saying FCPS is blameless. No one. Two things can be true at once.

What’s the title of this thread? Mic drop.

I started this thread and I fully intend to sue Callie. I also intend to lobby FCPS.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to see the data with how many FOIAs she's filed and the impact on FCPS. How many additional people did they have to hire? How much is it costing FCPS? And how much has she paid in fees? I think we need a public discussion on how we want our taxpayer dollars spent. People like her have misused FOIA in nefarious ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OH nice-Here are a few of Callie’s friends from SEPTA here to “advocate”

You have no respect because all you do is hate on educators, sue, file complaints, and steer qualified professionals from the county.

Clearly- plenty of people find this “advocating” vile. Thank you parents for speaking up against Callie!

SEPTA is a despicable joke, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

So much this! Only the Callie sympatheaizer(s) think only FCPS is in the wrong.

They are both wrong, but Callie should never have gotten the data. Period. FCPS shouldn’t be so lackadaisical that they put the burden on the receiver to protect my kids data when they just hand it out like candy. I’m not ok with that. If a business put this out as their data security policy (we make mistakes at times, and the burden of not being used for inappropriate purposes is solely on the receiver), I would never do business with them and neither would any of you.

No one is saying FCPS is blameless. No one. Two things can be true at once.

What’s the title of this thread? Mic drop.

I started this thread and I fully intend to sue Callie. I also intend to lobby FCPS.

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[Anonymous]

I’m in if we are suing Callie. What kind of Mother does this to other Mothers. FCPS is also at fault, but this woman went too far.

[Anonymous]

I'm weirdly fascinated by how much the parents on this thread are about the idea that their kid's IEPs or whatever are on the internet. Is it great? No absolutely not. FCPS shouldn't have released that data and she shouldn't have posted it.

But please try to remember very few people care about your kid's learning issue. These are kids. Future employers aren't going care what Larlo was doing in 5th grade or what accommodations he needed to pass Calculus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm weirdly fascinated by how much the parents on this thread are about the idea that their kid's IEPs or whatever are on the internet. Is it great? No absolutely not. FCPS shouldn't have released that data and she shouldn't have posted it.

But please try to remember very few people care about your kid's learning issue. These are kids. Future employers aren't going care what Larlo was doing in 5th grade or what accommodations he needed to pass Calculus.

Whether they care or not, they shouldn’t have access to it, and because of Callie, they now do.

[Anonymous]

Why weren’t the FCPS files individually password protected?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

It seems you don’t care that FCPS has no process to ensure this doesn’t happen. I don’t know Callie, but at least she scrubbed the data. What happens next time when a nefarious character doesn’t?

Again, misdirection by Callie - this actually implies Callie isn't acting nefariously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm weirdly fascinated by how much the parents on this thread are about the idea that their kid's IEPs or whatever are on the internet. Is it great? No absolutely not. FCPS shouldn't have released that data and she shouldn't have posted it.

But please try to remember very few people care about your kid's learning issue. These are kids. Future employers aren't going care what Larlo was doing in 5th grade or what accommodations he needed to pass Calculus.

Whether they care or not, they shouldn’t have access to it, and because of Callie, they now do.

Whether they care or not, they shouldn’t have access to it, and because of FCPS, they now do.

There. Fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sue whoever you want but until you deal with the bigger issues within the school system the problem will keep happening. Have you asked FCPS how many people in the district have open access to your child’s files at the moment? Have you asked FCPS why the files weren’t password protected so if they were accidentally released they couldn’t be opened? Do you know what steps FCPS has taken to better secure data and prevent your private information from being released to other members of the public? Have you filed formal complaints with the state? Have you spoken to the principal and demanded password protection on your child’s files?

Also Callie.