NYT: Profound increase in black voters who support Trump

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Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.



People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).


Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?


The best answer is probably the expansion of medicaid. Republican states that have refused to expand have really hurt black people (and poor white people too). Texas just kicked amost a million children off medicaid. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2023/11/23/more-than-810000-texas-children-booted-from-medicaid-coverage/?outputType=amp

However black people, like most people, probably care more about social issues and markers. So absolutely, many black people align ideologically more with the right now: tough on crime; value of hard work; traditional gender roles; religion as central.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.
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Hispanics are highly evangelical, family oriented and hate taxes since they work harder than most.

Moving right at light speed
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Hispanics are highly evangelical, family oriented and hate taxes since they work harder than most.

Moving right at light speed


You are right. And given their growing percentage of the population, that does not bode well for the US in terms of developing progressive or future-oriented policies. And by "progressive," I don't mean anything crazy. I just mean the bare minimum of what European countries have.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.


except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.


except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.

Just because you want to wish that that were so, doesn’t make it so. “You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. […]The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

That was the deal. They liked being racist and they were happy to have Trump give them permission to say what they’d been thinking. “F*ck your feelings,” remember?

A minority, Black or Latino or Muslim or whoever, can vote for a Republican. That’s their right as an American citizen, a right that the GOP wants to take from everyone but White men, but that’s currently their right. And it is my right as a citizen to say that’s a mega stupid idea to cast a vote for a bigoted party that celebrates its bigotry and offers no solutions to problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.



People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).


Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?


The first two were things that Obama put in place. Trump gets no credit for them. As for the second, pardoned "many?" Trump only pardoned 143 people, which is like 10% of the pardons given by Obama, and of those 143 pardons, there were only something like 5 blacks among them. Trump pardoned far more of his own co-conspirators than he did blacks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.


except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.

Just because you want to wish that that were so, doesn’t make it so. “You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. […]The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

That was the deal. They liked being racist and they were happy to have Trump give them permission to say what they’d been thinking. “F*ck your feelings,” remember?

A minority, Black or Latino or Muslim or whoever, can vote for a Republican. That’s their right as an American citizen, a right that the GOP wants to take from everyone but White men, but that’s currently their right. And it is my right as a citizen to say that’s a mega stupid idea to cast a vote for a bigoted party that celebrates its bigotry and offers no solutions to problems.


Speaking of "basket of deplorables" if Trump actually wanted Hillary arrested, he should have hired her. Somehow everyone around him is a criminal. 😆😆😆
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.


+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.


except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.

Just because you want to wish that that were so, doesn’t make it so. “You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. […]The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

That was the deal. They liked being racist and they were happy to have Trump give them permission to say what they’d been thinking. “F*ck your feelings,” remember?

A minority, Black or Latino or Muslim or whoever, can vote for a Republican. That’s their right as an American citizen, a right that the GOP wants to take from everyone but White men, but that’s currently their right. And it is my right as a citizen to say that’s a mega stupid idea to cast a vote for a bigoted party that celebrates its bigotry and offers no solutions to problems.


Speaking of "basket of deplorables" if Trump actually wanted Hillary arrested, he should have hired her. Somehow everyone around him is a criminal. 😆😆😆

Too true! Plus the man himself has 91 indictments. That’s a career criminal.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?


No one believes this bs anymore.

Why not when Trump is out campaigning saying he’s going to do it? Are you calling Trump a liar?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-military-insurrection-act-2024-election-03858b6291e4721991b5a18c2dfb3c36


When people tell you what they are, believe them.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This seems like yet another article in a series of articles written by a media that is fixated on portraying everything as a disaster for Biden. It's hard to take it seriously anymore.

Maybe Trump has some superficial lead among black voters right now. Just wait until he's the nominee and keeps opening up his mouth to remind black voters of his true nature.

The media is owned by Republican conglomerates and headed up by Republican men. They want Trump so bad they can taste it.


The media... so you mean MSNBC, CNN, NPR, WaPo, NYT? That media?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We are just going to have to wait until Nov 2024. Until then, everything is speculation. Polls have burned all in the past. Who knows?!

+1

Color me skeptical that 22% of Black men are headed over to the GOP. I mean, maybe. But Republicans are pretty bald about the fact that they don’t think Black people are human.


Do you know any black men? Plenty of them are socially and economically conservative. And like many of us are also tired of being lectured about “social justice” in a simplistic and victimizing way.


THIS ^^^
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?


No one believes this bs anymore.

Why not when Trump is out campaigning saying he’s going to do it? Are you calling Trump a liar?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-military-insurrection-act-2024-election-03858b6291e4721991b5a18c2dfb3c36


DP. I have no problem with this. None whatsoever. Perhaps rioters and looters would think twice, for once, before terrorizing cities and police whenever they want to throw a tantrum. And you realize, it's been used before? From your own link:

"Presidents have issued a total of 40 proclamations invoking the law, some of those done multiple times for the same crisis, Nunn said. Lyndon Johnson invoked it three times — in Baltimore, Chicago and Washington — in response to the unrest in cities after the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968.

During the Civil Rights era, Presidents Johnson, John F. Kennedy and Dwight Eisenhower used the law to protect activists and students desegregating schools. Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock, Arkansas, to protect Black students integrating Central High School after that state’s governor activated the National Guard to keep the students out.

George H.W. Bush was the last president to use the Insurrection Act, a response to riots in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the white police officers who beat Black motorist Rodney King in an incident that was videotaped."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!


DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.


Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.
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