NYT: Profound increase in black voters who support Trump

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Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.

People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).

Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?

Exactly. The nonsense these people are peddling is quite something. They never tire of pretending Democrats somehow have the best interests of minorities in mind. Seems some of those minorities are finally realizing they've been had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.

People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).

Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?

Exactly. The nonsense these people are peddling is quite something. They never tire of pretending Democrats somehow have the best interests of minorities in mind. Seems some of those minorities are finally realizing they've been had.

Exactly...what?

The HBCU thing started under Obama. Trump maintained it. Biden has grown it.
Guess what the record black unemployment is now? Take a look at where it was when Trump left office.
He pardoned like 5 people of color. What he mostly pardoned were is co-conspirators.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are just going to have to wait until Nov 2024. Until then, everything is speculation. Polls have burned all in the past. Who knows?!

+1

Color me skeptical that 22% of Black men are headed over to the GOP. I mean, maybe. But Republicans are pretty bald about the fact that they don’t think Black people are human.

Do you know any black men? Plenty of them are socially and economically conservative. And like many of us are also tired of being lectured about “social justice” in a simplistic and victimizing way.

THIS ^^^

For real. Ask the average black man what he thinks of 'trans issues." Or illegal migration. Or all these criminals never getting prosecuted.

Ask them.

Black folks - and Hispanics - are not nearly as "woke" or "progressive" or whatever word you want to use as white liberals from the 'burbs think they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.

+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.

except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.

Just because you want to wish that that were so, doesn’t make it so. “You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. […]The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

That was the deal. They liked being racist and they were happy to have Trump give them permission to say what they’d been thinking. “F*ck your feelings,” remember?

A minority, Black or Latino or Muslim or whoever, can vote for a Republican. That’s their right as an American citizen, a right that the GOP wants to take from everyone but White men, but that’s currently their right. And it is my right as a citizen to say that’s a mega stupid idea to cast a vote for a bigoted party that celebrates its bigotry and offers no solutions to problems.

What on EARTH are you babbling about? This trope that somehow the GOP wants to take away the rights of black people to vote is such a lie. Delaware and NY have more stringent voting laws than Georgia - explain that, genius.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.

People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).

Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?

The first two were things that Obama put in place. Trump gets no credit for them. As for the second, pardoned "many?" Trump only pardoned 143 people, which is like 10% of the pardons given by Obama, and of those 143 pardons, there were only something like 5 blacks among them. Trump pardoned far more of his own co-conspirators than he did blacks.

Provide your links.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!

DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.

Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.

Are you the idiot claiming Trump will "put black people in camps"? If so, you are most definitely a LWNJ. Own it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!

DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.

Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.

Are you the idiot claiming Trump will "put black people in camps"? If so, you are most definitely a LWNJ. Own it.

Read Trump’s own words, “idiot.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.

People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).

Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?

The first two were things that Obama put in place. Trump gets no credit for them. As for the second, pardoned "many?" Trump only pardoned 143 people, which is like 10% of the pardons given by Obama, and of those 143 pardons, there were only something like 5 blacks among them. Trump pardoned far more of his own co-conspirators than he did blacks.

Provide your links.

DP, but everybody knows that. Only delusional people think Trump gives a shit about any Black people who aren’t members of the Republican grift network.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are just going to have to wait until Nov 2024. Until then, everything is speculation. Polls have burned all in the past. Who knows?!

+1

Color me skeptical that 22% of Black men are headed over to the GOP. I mean, maybe. But Republicans are pretty bald about the fact that they don’t think Black people are human.

Do you know any black men? Plenty of them are socially and economically conservative. And like many of us are also tired of being lectured about “social justice” in a simplistic and victimizing way.

THIS ^^^

For real. Ask the average black man what he thinks of 'trans issues." Or illegal migration. Or all these criminals never getting prosecuted.

Ask them.

Black folks - and Hispanics - are not nearly as "woke" or "progressive" or whatever word you want to use as white liberals from the 'burbs think they are.

+1
Interestingly, here is a Politico piece from *today*.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/28/black-voters-biden-2024-00128338

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just do not understand how so many people say they support T. It is mind boggling.

People don't all think the same. You probably think he was a Russian agent who hates Black people and tried to overthrow the government. And you probably think his tweets are mean. Imagine of you believed none of the second sentence in this paragraph and also thought he was funny, not mean, and you will start to understand Trump voters.

He was a Russian asset, not an agent, he does hate Black people and did try to overthrow the government. Not only was he mean, he was and is a stochastic terrorist. So you see why people are genuinely confused about why anyone supports that horrible man who has no plans for anything (other than fascism).

Yeah Trump hates black peole so much that he:

* gave huge amounts of money to HBCUs

* record low black unemployment

* pardoned many blacks people who were locked up in jail

Keep drinking the dem kool aid. What have the Dems done for the black community? Increase crime in their neighborhoods?

The first two were things that Obama put in place. Trump gets no credit for them. As for the second, pardoned "many?" Trump only pardoned 143 people, which is like 10% of the pardons given by Obama, and of those 143 pardons, there were only something like 5 blacks among them. Trump pardoned far more of his own co-conspirators than he did blacks.

Provide your links.

DP, but everybody knows that. Only delusional people think Trump gives a shit about any Black people who aren’t members of the Republican grift network.

If you are throwing around numbers and statistics, then be prepared to back them up with credible links. You would say the same thing, btw. So we'll wait for those links.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!

DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.

Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.

Are you the idiot claiming Trump will "put black people in camps"? If so, you are most definitely a LWNJ. Own it.

Read Trump’s own words, “idiot.”

Rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them sounds fine with me. Ending birthright citizenship? Yes, please. Please show us exactly where Trump ever said "troublesome black people will be in camps."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!

DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.

Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.

Are you the idiot claiming Trump will "put black people in camps"? If so, you are most definitely a LWNJ. Own it.

Read Trump’s own words, “idiot.”

Rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them sounds fine with me. Ending birthright citizenship? Yes, please. Please show us exactly where Trump ever said "troublesome black people will be in camps."

Crickets. Just admit you are a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let's all vote for the guy who wants to invoke the Insurrection Act next time there's a BLM rally. What could possibly go wrong?

+1

If the GOP gets their way, all of those troublesome Black people will be in camps. I’m pretty sure they’re going to overturn the 13th Amendment, too. Nothing can get in the way of American business!

DP. I can't believe what I just read. No, actually, I can. Never change, LWNJs.

Have you read Project 2025? If not, stop calling us LWNJ's.

I mean, we were being called hysterical over the prospects of losing the right to manage our bodies. Look how that turned out.

Are you the idiot claiming Trump will "put black people in camps"? If so, you are most definitely a LWNJ. Own it.

Read Trump’s own words, “idiot.”

Rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them sounds fine with me. Ending birthright citizenship? Yes, please. Please show us exactly where Trump ever said "troublesome black people will be in camps."

Crickets. Just admit you are a liar.

Directed to the PP who made that idiot claim.

[Anonymous]

I think that pp was referring to when Biden said that Trump wanted to put black people back in chains. Trump never said that, though, because that's both unthinkable and degrading. It's like, "hey those guys think you're a slave. You know, someone to be in chains! A person that isn't a full citizen! I don't care what they say about you, though. I think you're equal, like me." Very believable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats aren’t owed the black vote.

+1000. What will be interesting to see is if the Republican party can in fact moderate its extreme wing to court more black & latino voters.

Lol no. They can put on a mask of decency for about ten minutes, max. They hopped into the basket of deplorables and wallowed around in it like it was something to be proud of. They owned it because they were proud of it.

except there really wasn’t much about the “deplorables” that was expressly anti-black. to the extent they expressed ideas about race it was mainly focused on immigration and now “anti-wokeness.” you may be suprised to know that not all black people are woke and pro-immigrant.

Just because you want to wish that that were so, doesn’t make it so. “You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. […]The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

That was the deal. They liked being racist and they were happy to have Trump give them permission to say what they’d been thinking. “F*ck your feelings,” remember?

A minority, Black or Latino or Muslim or whoever, can vote for a Republican. That’s their right as an American citizen, a right that the GOP wants to take from everyone but White men, but that’s currently their right. And it is my right as a citizen to say that’s a mega stupid idea to cast a vote for a bigoted party that celebrates its bigotry and offers no solutions to problems.

What on EARTH are you babbling about? This trope that somehow the GOP wants to take away the rights of black people to vote is such a lie. Delaware and NY have more stringent voting laws than Georgia - explain that, genius.
DP

You haven’t noticed all of the post-2020 gerrymanders that have ignored the Voting Rights Act? Huh.