Ward 4 Election

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Ward 4 voter and I like Janeese. I certainly don't agree with her on everything, but she's rational and knows better than the clowns who think DC can incarcerate its way out of this current mess.

Well, you’re in luck, I suppose, because DC doesn’t incarcerate anyone.

People arrested for murder in DC have *on average* been arrested 11 times previously.

Maybe if they had been incarcerated one of those previous 11 times, the person they later murdered would still be alive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If an anti-crime candidate can pick off the Ward 4 Council seat and voters can coalesce around a much needed replacement for Frumin, it should moderate the At Large members and hopefully create a moderate voting block on the Council. Of course, we might not have that much time before the City collapses.

How is Frumin anti-crime? He hasn't even been in office long enough to have a voting record on it.

He’s definitely not anti crime. Quite the opposite. We’ve seen enough already. Between his support for the voucher program to the way he had to be pushed into supporting the emergency crime legislation to the way he’s never present at any of the violent crime scenes (but never misses a bike lane event). His disinterest is dangerous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people on here rushing to embrace Gore being she strung a couple of sentences together to harmonize with the tune of the day are the reason we have such cruddy elected officials. Of all the council members and the mayor, I’d have a hard time telling you what any of them stand for besides getting elected. How about you take a look at what Gore was saying in mid-late 2020 before doubling down on the view that she’s the savior the city needs? And how about making it a point to stop being hoodwinked by professional politicians and cast a vote in favor of candidates with substance?

If one of those ran in Ward 4 I'd be thrilled. But what we have instead is two people serving up different flavors of the day - "criminals can do no wrong, in fact laws are mean/racist" vs. "crime is out of control, I will crack down on it!" They might both be vapid, insubstantial professional politicians but that's what we have to choose between.

At what point does one become a professional politician or is it wannabe to professional, with no space to be an elected official?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people on here rushing to embrace Gore being she strung a couple of sentences together to harmonize with the tune of the day are the reason we have such cruddy elected officials. Of all the council members and the mayor, I’d have a hard time telling you what any of them stand for besides getting elected. How about you take a look at what Gore was saying in mid-late 2020 before doubling down on the view that she’s the savior the city needs? And how about making it a point to stop being hoodwinked by professional politicians and cast a vote in favor of candidates with substance?

If one of those ran in Ward 4 I'd be thrilled. But what we have instead is two people serving up different flavors of the day - "criminals can do no wrong, in fact laws are mean/racist" vs. "crime is out of control, I will crack down on it!" They might both be vapid, insubstantial professional politicians but that's what we have to choose between.

At what point does one become a professional politician or is it wannabe to professional, with no space to be an elected official?

People who aren’t funny shouldn’t try.

[Anonymous]

+3. Just maxed out to her campaign too. It's time we have a council member in W4 who takes initiative on the public safety in our community.

[Anonymous]

Hi all! It’s Lisa Gore and thank you for the discussion on this thread! I’m so excited about my run and NO - I was not encouraged to run by anyone other than my many neighbors in Hawthorne and Brightwood and a few in Riggs LaSalle! I promise you they are real people, everyday neighbors!

I do not want to stop your open discussions about this race or me, but I do want you to have access to me and get to know me first hand. I have quite the story including raising my son here - he was born at 24 weeks and only 1.5lbs. We went through tough, tough times. If you saw my At Large race you saw him with me every step of the way. He’s now a second year college student at LaSalle in Philly! It can be done!

And yes, I have an extensive LEO career. I started right here in DC as a juvenile, Bilingual Probation Officer. I was one of DC’s first bilingual (Spanish) POs in juvenile supervision. I worked in this role for 5yrs. I transitioned to US Customs as a Special Agent in San Juan, PR and then to the IG’s Office, HUD where I retired as a senior manager. I’ve done it all in this arena, white collar and violent crime, and delivery of services to juvenile offenders. I was a law enforcement instructor and National Use of Force Coordinator.

I retired during COVID to spend time with my son - finally! I immediately jumped into community service and ran for ANC. I’m serving my second term in 3/4G where I am currently Chair. This role has brought me back to my community service roots and even though I’m in 3/4G, I get calls from all across the Ward. And I answer!

Please continue with your discussions! I won’t lurk. I wanted to share some of my background and let you all know how to contact me directly if you every have questions about my campaign or need to verify information. I have the same number and email I used in the AL race, 202- 697-7056, info@gorefordc and my website is GorforDC.com. I certainly have a lot of ideas and we will be releasing our platform soon, but job #1 is serving constituents. That must be front and center.

Thanks!

Lisa R. Gore,
Candidate, Ward 4 Council

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all! It’s Lisa Gore and thank you for the discussion on this thread! I’m so excited about my run and NO - I was not encouraged to run by anyone other than my many neighbors in Hawthorne and Brightwood and a few in Riggs LaSalle! I promise you they are real people, everyday neighbors!

I do not want to stop your open discussions about this race or me, but I do want you to have access to me and get to know me first hand. I have quite the story including raising my son here - he was born at 24 weeks and only 1.5lbs. We went through tough, tough times. If you saw my At Large race you saw him with me every step of the way. He’s now a second year college student at LaSalle in Philly! It can be done!

And yes, I have an extensive LEO career. I started right here in DC as a juvenile, Bilingual Probation Officer. I was one of DC’s first bilingual (Spanish) POs in juvenile supervision. I worked in this role for 5yrs. I transitioned to US Customs as a Special Agent in San Juan, PR and then to the IG’s Office, HUD where I retired as a senior manager. I’ve done it all in this arena, white collar and violent crime, and delivery of services to juvenile offenders. I was a law enforcement instructor and National Use of Force Coordinator.

I retired during COVID to spend time with my son - finally! I immediately jumped into community service and ran for ANC. I’m serving my second term in 3/4G where I am currently Chair. This role has brought me back to my community service roots and even though I’m in 3/4G, I get calls from all across the Ward. And I answer!

Please continue with your discussions! I won’t lurk. I wanted to share some of my background and let you all know how to contact me directly if you every have questions about my campaign or need to verify information. I have the same number and email I used in the AL race, 202- 697-7056, info@gorefordc and my website is GorforDC.com. I certainly have a lot of ideas and we will be releasing our platform soon, but job #1 is serving constituents. That must be front and center.

Thanks!

Lisa R. Gore,
Candidate, Ward 4 Council

Thank you, Lisa. I can't wait to vote for you and usher in some much-needed sanity to the Council. Godspeed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people on here rushing to embrace Gore being she strung a couple of sentences together to harmonize with the tune of the day are the reason we have such cruddy elected officials. Of all the council members and the mayor, I’d have a hard time telling you what any of them stand for besides getting elected. How about you take a look at what Gore was saying in mid-late 2020 before doubling down on the view that she’s the savior the city needs? And how about making it a point to stop being hoodwinked by professional politicians and cast a vote in favor of candidates with substance?

If one of those ran in Ward 4 I'd be thrilled. But what we have instead is two people serving up different flavors of the day - "criminals can do no wrong, in fact laws are mean/racist" vs. "crime is out of control, I will crack down on it!" They might both be vapid, insubstantial professional politicians but that's what we have to choose between.

At what point does one become a professional politician or is it wannabe to professional, with no space to be an elected official?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

It was in the Washington Post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

It was in the Washington Post.

Would you mind sharing that, so we could see it in its appropriate context?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

It was in the Washington Post.

Would you mind sharing that, so we could see it in its appropriate context?

"The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjQ3NTcwMjIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4NzkyNDgwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4OTIyMDc5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjg3OTI0ODAwLCJqdGkiOiI2NzlkMDMyZS00OGI4LTQ1YWMtOWUzNS1jM2MyYzc0ODliMDAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vZGMtbWQtdmEvMjAyMy8wNi8yNy9ib3dzZXItY3JpbWUtYmlsbC1kYy1jb3VuY2lsLW9wcG9zaXRpb24vIn0.kUhx36eYTFHxyiPfFMH4x29aObX0_ums1PQD7q3lKfI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

It was in the Washington Post.

Would you mind sharing that, so we could see it in its appropriate context?

"The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjQ3NTcwMjIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4NzkyNDgwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4OTIyMDc5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjg3OTI0ODAwLCJqdGkiOiI2NzlkMDMyZS00OGI4LTQ1YWMtOWUzNS1jM2MyYzc0ODliMDAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vZGMtbWQtdmEvMjAyMy8wNi8yNy9ib3dzZXItY3JpbWUtYmlsbC1kYy1jb3VuY2lsLW9wcG9zaXRpb24vIn0.kUhx36eYTFHxyiPfFMH4x29aObX0_ums1PQD7q3lKfI

Thanks for sharing. I do agree with her statement. I would love our Council and Mayor's office to be seeking alternative placements other than prison for children who are awaiting trial. I agree that for many of these kids, going back to their house is not the best option.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still happy with Janeese and going to vote for her again. I think her positions and actions on crime have been far more insightful than the standard Bowser stooge who's just looking at what polls well. Brandon Todd never did anything meaningful and we don't need a repeat of him.

There it is, folks. Please tell us how Janeese's actions on crime have been so "insightful."

She sends detailed newsletters with specifics of the issues and what she's doing about it. Have you actually read those? DC, especially Ward 4 crime / safety is discussed in a lot of those (maybe all?).

She's come to fairly contentious community meetings and given clear answers on what she can do and what she won't do. And she brings in MPD, USAO, and others as effectively as I think she can.

But if you want to spout slogans and vote based off "public safety and crime tops my list of priorities" without any meat behind it then you've made up your mind based on emotion not logic.

Janeese *cried* when Bowser said 17 year olds arrested for murder should be detained. She said jail would “traumatize” them. Next! I will vote for whoever is most likely to defeat this crazy person

That is crazy. I can’t believe she said that. Her and Bowser seem on opposite sides.

Maybe she didn't? It seems like what a conservative would like to think she said.

It was in the Washington Post.

Would you mind sharing that, so we could see it in its appropriate context?

"The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjQ3NTcwMjIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4NzkyNDgwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4OTIyMDc5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjg3OTI0ODAwLCJqdGkiOiI2NzlkMDMyZS00OGI4LTQ1YWMtOWUzNS1jM2MyYzc0ODliMDAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vZGMtbWQtdmEvMjAyMy8wNi8yNy9ib3dzZXItY3JpbWUtYmlsbC1kYy1jb3VuY2lsLW9wcG9zaXRpb24vIn0.kUhx36eYTFHxyiPfFMH4x29aObX0_ums1PQD7q3lKfI

Janeese Lewis George gets angrier about legislative proposals to crack down on crime than she does actual crime.