biden's speech 19 Oct 23

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Anonymous wrote:The description I heard that describes my takeaway was that this speech seemed to be the result of someone dropping the papers on the floor and picking up the pages out of order before reading it.
It was disjointed and not terribly inspiring.

He also spent very little time addressing the horrors suffered by the Jewish people and the real people behind all the strife in the world right now - IRAN.

I'll give him credit for uttering the word, "Iran" since he hasn't done that in the past weeks, but this administration has to take a much tougher stance with them and inform the American people about the evil of Iran.

You are just salivating over WW3, huh?

WW3 will result in a void of American leadership. That is what we have now.
Being tough on Iran will not result in WW3. Iran is emboldened because they sense weakness.

So.. what does "being tough" look like? We need war.... to avoid war?

Here's a start:
1. Start enforcing sanctions that we already have so that they don't bring in billions in revenue.
2. Clean out your advisors of Iran-sympathizers.
3. Forget trying to make nice with Iran to secure some kind of nuclear deal that will result in no change.
4. Refreeze the $6 Billion.

Even Democrats want him to be tougher:

In the wake of recent Hamas attacks on Israel, more than 110 House Representatives have called for a tougher stance against the regime in Iran.

In a letter published Monday night, the lawmakers (63 Democrats and 50 Republicans) urge President Biden to hold the Islamic Republic accountable for its ongoing financial support of Hamas.

“We urge the Administration to take all necessary steps to cut off Iranian funding sources,” the letter reads. “This includes maximum enforcement of all US sanctions and taking any and all steps to end Iran’s oil trade to China, which currently brings in $150 million per day in revenue.”

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310171782

You really need to keep up. The 6 billion has been refrozen.

No, it hasn't.

Yes it has. A week ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/12/iran-oil-fund-us-israel/

And, to add to this... neither Blinken nor Kirby will confirm that Qatar has agreed to hold the funds.
https://www.frontpageindex.com/2023/10/fox-news-us-and-qatar-agree-to-block.html

There Is Still No Freeze on the $6B Biden Transferred to Iran, via Qatar
Despite the word salads from Secretary Blinken and the media, the status quo has not changed.

Contrary to Biden-administration spin, to media repetition of same, and thus to popular belief, the $6 billion as to which President Biden waived sanctions — on September 11 of all days — so that it could be transferred to Qatar for Iran’s benefit has not been “refrozen.”

Late last week, Biden deputy Treasury secretary Wally Adeyemo trumpeted what he portrayed as a revised understanding between the U.S. and Qatar that would stop Iran from benefitting from Biden’s transfer of the funds. As I observed at the time, however, this announcement, when closely parsed, marked no real change in the status quo. What Adeyemo said, in the Post’s words (my italics), was that the U.S. and Qatar had “agreed to stop Iran from accessing” the $6 billion. But as recounted above, it had always been agreed that Iran would not have access to the funds in the sense of possessing them. The question was whether Qatar would still be able to spend the funds for Iran’s benefit.

Since money is fungible, if Iran could still get Qatar to draw on the $6 billion from Biden to pay for humanitarian goods and services that Iran would otherwise have to buy with funds it controls, then Iran could repurpose those otherwise allocated funds to terrorism. It would therefore only be accurate for Biden to claim the money had been refrozen if Qatar had agreed to return it to a bank account the United States controlled, or if Qatar had made an enforceable agreement not to disburse any portion of the $6 billion absent prior American approval.

There is no evidence that Qatar agreed to any such thing.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/10/there-is-still-no-freeze-on-the-6b-biden-transferred-to-iran-via-qatar/

National Review? LOLOL!

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Anonymous wrote:The description I heard that describes my takeaway was that this speech seemed to be the result of someone dropping the papers on the floor and picking up the pages out of order before reading it.
It was disjointed and not terribly inspiring.

He also spent very little time addressing the horrors suffered by the Jewish people and the real people behind all the strife in the world right now - IRAN.

I'll give him credit for uttering the word, "Iran" since he hasn't done that in the past weeks, but this administration has to take a much tougher stance with them and inform the American people about the evil of Iran.

You are just salivating over WW3, huh?

WW3 will result in a void of American leadership. That is what we have now.
Being tough on Iran will not result in WW3. Iran is emboldened because they sense weakness.

So.. what does "being tough" look like? We need war.... to avoid war?

Here's a start:
1. Start enforcing sanctions that we already have so that they don't bring in billions in revenue.
2. Clean out your advisors of Iran-sympathizers.
3. Forget trying to make nice with Iran to secure some kind of nuclear deal that will result in no change.
4. Refreeze the $6 Billion.

Even Democrats want him to be tougher:

In the wake of recent Hamas attacks on Israel, more than 110 House Representatives have called for a tougher stance against the regime in Iran.

In a letter published Monday night, the lawmakers (63 Democrats and 50 Republicans) urge President Biden to hold the Islamic Republic accountable for its ongoing financial support of Hamas.

“We urge the Administration to take all necessary steps to cut off Iranian funding sources,” the letter reads. “This includes maximum enforcement of all US sanctions and taking any and all steps to end Iran’s oil trade to China, which currently brings in $150 million per day in revenue.”

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310171782

You really need to keep up. The 6 billion has been refrozen.

No, it hasn't.

Yes it has. A week ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/12/iran-oil-fund-us-israel/

And, to add to this... neither Blinken nor Kirby will confirm that Qatar has agreed to hold the funds.
https://www.frontpageindex.com/2023/10/fox-news-us-and-qatar-agree-to-block.html

There Is Still No Freeze on the $6B Biden Transferred to Iran, via Qatar
Despite the word salads from Secretary Blinken and the media, the status quo has not changed.

Contrary to Biden-administration spin, to media repetition of same, and thus to popular belief, the $6 billion as to which President Biden waived sanctions — on September 11 of all days — so that it could be transferred to Qatar for Iran’s benefit has not been “refrozen.”

Late last week, Biden deputy Treasury secretary Wally Adeyemo trumpeted what he portrayed as a revised understanding between the U.S. and Qatar that would stop Iran from benefitting from Biden’s transfer of the funds. As I observed at the time, however, this announcement, when closely parsed, marked no real change in the status quo. What Adeyemo said, in the Post’s words (my italics), was that the U.S. and Qatar had “agreed to stop Iran from accessing” the $6 billion. But as recounted above, it had always been agreed that Iran would not have access to the funds in the sense of possessing them. The question was whether Qatar would still be able to spend the funds for Iran’s benefit.

Since money is fungible, if Iran could still get Qatar to draw on the $6 billion from Biden to pay for humanitarian goods and services that Iran would otherwise have to buy with funds it controls, then Iran could repurpose those otherwise allocated funds to terrorism. It would therefore only be accurate for Biden to claim the money had been refrozen if Qatar had agreed to return it to a bank account the United States controlled, or if Qatar had made an enforceable agreement not to disburse any portion of the $6 billion absent prior American approval.

There is no evidence that Qatar agreed to any such thing.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/10/there-is-still-no-freeze-on-the-6b-biden-transferred-to-iran-via-qatar/

The state department has sign-off an any dispbursement, in terms of what organization it would be directed to, for what purpose and what amount. That was the original deal and it hasn't changed, no matter how much the National Review wants to bleat about it.

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

Are they leftists or standard milquetoast normie liberals?

I bet they're ones who don't want to get shot in school, and want access to reproductive rights. If I had to guess.

Biden is doing every single thing right when it comes to Israel. That's how most of us see it.

By most of us, do you mean boomers?

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Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

Brit Hume liked it. Others commenting afterward did not.

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

Are they leftists or standard milquetoast normie liberals?

I bet they're ones who don't want to get shot in school, and want access to reproductive rights. If I had to guess.

Biden is doing every single thing right when it comes to Israel. That's how most of us see it.

By most of us, do you mean boomers?

No, I don't. I mean normal people. Regular people. People with pretty mainstream views on most things. People who think Nazis are bad, and that when terrorists attack a country and kill your citizens then you get to fight back. People who think healthcare should be more widely available to more people, and we probably need some better security at the border.

People who think that things were pretty good when Roe was the law of the land, and are pretty bad now that Republicans are stripping away reproductive rights every chance they get.

Just regular people.

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Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

well all my female friends in bookclub are voting for him. They're all highly educated and can see through crap.
How bout yourself?

You mean your white middle aged girlfriends in Chevy Chase? 🤣

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Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

well all my female friends in bookclub are voting for him. They're all highly educated and can see through crap.
How bout yourself?

You mean your white middle aged girlfriends in Chevy Chase? 🤣

well, we do drink but we actually discuss the book. And, we don't live in Chevy Chase, wherever the heck that is.

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Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

well all my female friends in bookclub are voting for him. They're all highly educated and can see through crap.
How bout yourself?

Wine club?

why are old white men so frightened of educated women? Your gig is up. And, we're voting accordingly

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Why do people think an American president needs to always act like a reality show buffoon? So it was a staid speech by an elderly man. Biden’s not the most exciting orator. But the content conveyed what needed to be said.

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Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

well all my female friends in bookclub are voting for him. They're all highly educated and can see through crap.
How bout yourself?

You mean your white middle aged girlfriends in Chevy Chase? 🤣

Is that an insult, to be white and middle-aged in Chevy Chase?

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Anonymous wrote:Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

It’s over, the Democratic Party has splintered. The last mail in this coffin was this.

I work in global security and the younger generation is angry about what is going on and see the hypocrisy of this administration.
They have grown up in an anti-Trump era where the boogeyman was blamed for everything and then we got Biden and they realized he is really no different.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

If you keyboard warriors continue to stay in your bubble and consume mainstream media then go ahead and believe Biden will win. You will be surprised the day after the election the way you were surprised Hillary did not win.

And no--the abortion issue or gun issue will not convince people to vote for Biden. The young folk are done with Biden and MAGA will win.

I don't know what you are drinking or smoking but whatever it is has made you delusional. Or, possibly, you are simply nuttier than a fruitcake!

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Anonymous wrote:

Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

well all my female friends in bookclub are voting for him. They're all highly educated and can see through crap.
How bout yourself?

You mean your white middle aged girlfriends in Chevy Chase? 🤣

Right because who in the world cares about suburban swing voters.

[Anonymous]

I have to say that Biden’s skin looks amazing for his age. Not a criticism at all but I was distracted wondering what laser or other facial treatments he does.

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Anonymous wrote:My only question is, why is Putin the boogeyman? Whatever Putin is doing is no way comparable to what Israel is doing in terms of occupation.

We lost all moral credibility on the world stage when we supported Israel’s occupation of Palestine. If Putin wants to do the same to Ukraine, then it should be fine as might is right is the name of the game. Do these speechwriters even listen to their hypocrisy?

Whatever Putin is doing? You mean invaded another country with absolutely no provocation and letting Wagner group rape and kill people at will, while abducting Ukrainian children and subjecting them to reeducation within his fascist Russia?

Your anti-Israel hysteria is so deep that you can’t see anything else.

+1

The trolls and propagandists here are tiresome.

This. But they are paid to stoke division in America, so they persist.

How do you get these pay to post jobs? I’m here for free and I feel like a sucker!

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

So?
These kids won't get off social media long enough to vote.