biden's speech 19 Oct 23

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

+1. They only people I know openly support trump are a few middle aged and older white men. Obviously there are others out there that won't admit to it but when you are embarrassed to admit you support a candidate, it does not bode well for success.

You live in a bubble.

[Anonymous]

It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My take: Biden sounded like a 1980s republican.

Are folks nostalgic enough for Ronald Reagan or is the world different enough that this no longer makes sense.

I did find it refreshing that he was honest enough to link American jobs to military spending.

But will voters think more spending on Ukraine and Israel is pouring good money after bad.

Also, has anyone done the analysis of the Muslim vote in swing districts? With such thin margins these days that can really be impactful. I think he’s lost these voters for sure with his stance.

Well the guy from FOX News liked it, so you might be right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

Are they leftists or standard milquetoast normie liberals?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

I don’t care who “lauded” it. It was mediocre-plus, and the transitions were so clunky that a fourth grade teacher would have winced. The bottom line, though, is that Ukraine and Israel must get the additional funding they need to defeat fascist Russia and Hamas, respectively.

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Anonymous wrote:He won reelection tonight.

I’ll say it again. He will be reelected. He is a leader.

Did you see the same person I did tonight? The words he spoke, fine, I’ll give you but the slurred speech and his face it’s like he’s got a mask on. He’s not well. Makes us look weak as a country. I honestly feel bad for him.

Dude’s eyes are barely discernible, and yeah, his face kind of looks like a Halloween mask mould. BUT, he fully deserves to be reelected because his policies are good.

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Anonymous wrote:Only a white male with no true friends outside his demographic that does not read books and consumes mainstream media and lacks true critical thinking skills would think Biden is going to win re-election.

It’s over, the Democratic Party has splintered. The last mail in this coffin was this.

I work in global security and the younger generation is angry about what is going on and see the hypocrisy of this administration.
They have grown up in an anti-Trump era where the boogeyman was blamed for everything and then we got Biden and they realized he is really no different.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

If you keyboard warriors continue to stay in your bubble and consume mainstream media then go ahead and believe Biden will win. You will be surprised the day after the election the way you were surprised Hillary did not win.

And no--the abortion issue or gun issue will not convince people to vote for Biden. The young folk are done with Biden and MAGA will win.

The people who post here do not understand this. And if they do understand this, they won’t admit it.

I know people who are openly toying with voting for Trump who didn’t vote for him in 2016 or 2020. Things are crazy

Ironically, without Trump’s disastrous handling of covid, none of those people would have gotten covid-related brain damage that is then causing them to “toy with” voting for Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

I don’t care who “lauded” it. It was mediocre-plus, and the transitions were so clunky that a fourth grade teacher would have winced. The bottom line, though, is that Ukraine and Israel must get the additional funding they need to defeat fascist Russia and Hamas, respectively.

Lol. Coming from a Republican who thought Trump’s blue steel and pointless and offensive rambling was statesmen-esque, no one listens to you on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

+1. They only people I know openly support trump are a few middle aged and older white men. Obviously there are others out there that won't admit to it but when you are embarrassed to admit you support a candidate, it does not bode well for success.

You live in a bubble.

I live in a blue state and you probably live in a red state. And who cares? The only ones that matter in presidential elections are the swing states. So far they have come through for reproductive rights big time when they had the chance to vote on it. (As have some red states). You likely have never had to birth a baby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

No. Brit Hume and Harold Ford did.
The others did not think much of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These old boomers have no idea how much leftist Gen Z hates Biden right now.

not true. My four GenZ children, their spouses and friends will all vote for him.

Are they leftists or standard milquetoast normie liberals?

I bet they're ones who don't want to get shot in school, and want access to reproductive rights. If I had to guess.

Biden is doing every single thing right when it comes to Israel. That's how most of us see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was an ok speech, poorly delivered — a “B” at best. Overall, Biden has been fine. But his administration’s foreign policy missteps in the days before October need to be examined. He may feel guilty about his weak approach toward Iran.

Even Fox News lauded the speech.

I don’t care who “lauded” it. It was mediocre-plus, and the transitions were so clunky that a fourth grade teacher would have winced. The bottom line, though, is that Ukraine and Israel must get the additional funding they need to defeat fascist Russia and Hamas, respectively.

Lol. Coming from a Republican who thought Trump’s blue steel and pointless and offensive rambling was statesmen-esque, no one listens to you on this.

I’m not a “Republican,” and you don’t have to be so emotional. It was a … mediocre-plus speech, poorly delivered. But the policy goals it seeks are just and appropriate: Ukraine and Israel must be able to defeat their demented, fascistic enemies. Biden’s preceding foolishness toward Iran hopefully won’t happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:The description I heard that describes my takeaway was that this speech seemed to be the result of someone dropping the papers on the floor and picking up the pages out of order before reading it.
It was disjointed and not terribly inspiring.

He also spent very little time addressing the horrors suffered by the Jewish people and the real people behind all the strife in the world right now - IRAN.

I'll give him credit for uttering the word, "Iran" since he hasn't done that in the past weeks, but this administration has to take a much tougher stance with them and inform the American people about the evil of Iran.

You are just salivating over WW3, huh?

WW3 will result in a void of American leadership. That is what we have now.
Being tough on Iran will not result in WW3. Iran is emboldened because they sense weakness.

So.. what does "being tough" look like? We need war.... to avoid war?

Here's a start:
1. Start enforcing sanctions that we already have so that they don't bring in billions in revenue.
2. Clean out your advisors of Iran-sympathizers.
3. Forget trying to make nice with Iran to secure some kind of nuclear deal that will result in no change.
4. Refreeze the $6 Billion.

Even Democrats want him to be tougher:

In the wake of recent Hamas attacks on Israel, more than 110 House Representatives have called for a tougher stance against the regime in Iran.

In a letter published Monday night, the lawmakers (63 Democrats and 50 Republicans) urge President Biden to hold the Islamic Republic accountable for its ongoing financial support of Hamas.

“We urge the Administration to take all necessary steps to cut off Iranian funding sources,” the letter reads. “This includes maximum enforcement of all US sanctions and taking any and all steps to end Iran’s oil trade to China, which currently brings in $150 million per day in revenue.”

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310171782

You really need to keep up. The 6 billion has been refrozen.

No, it hasn't.

Yes it has. A week ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/12/iran-oil-fund-us-israel/

And, to add to this... neither Blinken nor Kirby will confirm that Qatar has agreed to hold the funds.
https://www.frontpageindex.com/2023/10/fox-news-us-and-qatar-agree-to-block.html

There Is Still No Freeze on the $6B Biden Transferred to Iran, via Qatar
Despite the word salads from Secretary Blinken and the media, the status quo has not changed.

Contrary to Biden-administration spin, to media repetition of same, and thus to popular belief, the $6 billion as to which President Biden waived sanctions — on September 11 of all days — so that it could be transferred to Qatar for Iran’s benefit has not been “refrozen.”

Late last week, Biden deputy Treasury secretary Wally Adeyemo trumpeted what he portrayed as a revised understanding between the U.S. and Qatar that would stop Iran from benefitting from Biden’s transfer of the funds. As I observed at the time, however, this announcement, when closely parsed, marked no real change in the status quo. What Adeyemo said, in the Post’s words (my italics), was that the U.S. and Qatar had “agreed to stop Iran from accessing” the $6 billion. But as recounted above, it had always been agreed that Iran would not have access to the funds in the sense of possessing them. The question was whether Qatar would still be able to spend the funds for Iran’s benefit.

Since money is fungible, if Iran could still get Qatar to draw on the $6 billion from Biden to pay for humanitarian goods and services that Iran would otherwise have to buy with funds it controls, then Iran could repurpose those otherwise allocated funds to terrorism. It would therefore only be accurate for Biden to claim the money had been refrozen if Qatar had agreed to return it to a bank account the United States controlled, or if Qatar had made an enforceable agreement not to disburse any portion of the $6 billion absent prior American approval.

There is no evidence that Qatar agreed to any such thing.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/10/there-is-still-no-freeze-on-the-6b-biden-transferred-to-iran-via-qatar/

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Didn't watch, didn't care what he had to say but he is still a zillion times better than the guy from the other team.