MLS Next Weekend Wrap-up 10/14, 10/15

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


The excuses for poor result in this game video are the same for the historical consistent poor results previously.
Statements based on facts with provable evidence isn't generalizing.

Is it "generalizing" to say Man City has been perennial winners in recent years?
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


The excuses for poor result in this game video are the same for the historical consistent poor results previously.
Statements based on facts with provable evidence isn't generalizing.

Is it "generalizing" to say Man City has been perennial winners in recent years?


never going to let it go, eh? I hate Achilles, bleh. "downfall of Achilles," "historical consistent poor results." Get over whatever it is.
This is an anonymous forum. Go ahead and let us know your experience that hurt you so much. Otherwise, maybe we can stop talking about Achilles and move on to the larger MLS Next discussion and results. I think it's interesting.

[and here I go perpetuating it: That particular team lost 3 players to MLS academies. It's a hard thing to immediately overcome for a small club].
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


The excuses for poor result in this game video are the same for the historical consistent poor results previously.
Statements based on facts with provable evidence isn't generalizing.

Is it "generalizing" to say Man City has been perennial winners in recent years?


never going to let it go, eh? I hate Achilles, bleh. "downfall of Achilles," "historical consistent poor results." Get over whatever it is.
This is an anonymous forum. Go ahead and let us know your experience that hurt you so much. Otherwise, maybe we can stop talking about Achilles and move on to the larger MLS Next discussion and results. I think it's interesting.

[and here I go perpetuating it: That particular team lost 3 players to MLS academies. It's a hard thing to immediately overcome for a small club].


True. Agree.
What are the results of the Achilles teams in MLS Next so far in the 23/24 season?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


The excuses for poor result in this game video are the same for the historical consistent poor results previously.
Statements based on facts with provable evidence isn't generalizing.

Is it "generalizing" to say Man City has been perennial winners in recent years?


never going to let it go, eh? I hate Achilles, bleh. "downfall of Achilles," "historical consistent poor results." Get over whatever it is.
This is an anonymous forum. Go ahead and let us know your experience that hurt you so much. Otherwise, maybe we can stop talking about Achilles and move on to the larger MLS Next discussion and results. I think it's interesting.

[and here I go perpetuating it: That particular team lost 3 players to MLS academies. It's a hard thing to immediately overcome for a small club].


True. Agree.
What are the results of the Achilles teams in MLS Next so far in the 23/24 season?


I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.
Anonymous
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I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.


Did you pay for the PRO version of that app? Didn't know they show scores...
Anonymous
The best things (one of) that could happen for youth soccer in the US to improve development is for US Soccer to be in charge of all the MLS Next teams not with a MLS Club Academy.

Make them free and make sure they have well trained, educated, knowledgeable youth development expert coaches/staff.
All players would be selected on merit and not on checkbook.

Pay-to-play on the highest level is ridiculous which makes it not truly the highest level.
Subpar youth coaches can't teach and develop the best talents to reach their highest potential.

Doing this will immediately elevate quality.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first half of this. Probably 4-1??
SYC is such a frustrating team to watch. I've seen them several times over the past three years. They have excellent individual players. I'm sure some of that is due to coaching and some is definitely due to recruiting. They are a physically imposing team. In this case, they are bigger and faster than Achilles at almost every position. But they don't play well together. Their goals aren't created by coordinated play. They rely heavily on consistently strong man marking, deep goal kicks, winning second balls, corners and crosses. How many times in that video did I hear "put it in the box" or "second ball." They shoot everything near the box and if they have it wide in the midfield either fire a deep diagonal pass or carry it down the line for a cross. This is all fine, and effective, if you're physically superior. But only if you're physically superior.


Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.
Technical + IQ Superiority beats just Physical.
Technical + Game Intelligence beats just Physical.
(See: Philly Union for example or old Barcelona)

If the Just Physical beats and dominates you, then you're not doing what you should with and without the ball, especially as a team.


'Technically Superior beats Physically Superior.'
This first line makes sense but does it also apply at u14? I'm not confident in that. The second and third line are hard to have at that age.


Why wouldn't it apply at U14 or U13 or U12?
Kids that are technically proficient with proper touch and control along with coaching/training that emphasizes decision making in game-like scenarios have a distinct advantage over large size dependent opponents.

IQ and game awareness intelligence isn't either None or Kevin De Bruyne. There are levels.


I agree. I said it was hard have at that age, because there are levels. One reason why the score was 9-2 with kids twice their size.


1 SYC didn't show up with a U17 sized squad. They have a couple above average size biological early bloomers, like Bethesda and everyone else.
2 Achilles based on their results in all age groups against all opponents over the past few years are clearly lacking more than size disadvantage. Saying ALL the other teams are winning with giants has run it's propaganda course.
(btw, if Size won soccer, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina wouldn't have International trophies)



Your generalizing. No one said all. Everyone except you is referring to one game and video posted. Good day.


The excuses for poor result in this game video are the same for the historical consistent poor results previously.
Statements based on facts with provable evidence isn't generalizing.

Is it "generalizing" to say Man City has been perennial winners in recent years?


never going to let it go, eh? I hate Achilles, bleh. "downfall of Achilles," "historical consistent poor results." Get over whatever it is.
This is an anonymous forum. Go ahead and let us know your experience that hurt you so much. Otherwise, maybe we can stop talking about Achilles and move on to the larger MLS Next discussion and results. I think it's interesting.

[and here I go perpetuating it: That particular team lost 3 players to MLS academies. It's a hard thing to immediately overcome for a small club].


True. Agree.
What are the results of the Achilles teams in MLS Next so far in the 23/24 season?


I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.


Youth Soccer Rankings sites should be abolished under U18
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.


Did you pay for the PRO version of that app? Didn't know they show scores...


Yep. It has scores, a breakdown of the ratings, and a prediction function.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.


Did you pay for the PRO version of that app? Didn't know they show scores...


Yep. It has scores, a breakdown of the ratings, and a prediction function.


Where are they getting these scores? Is Next scores online somewhere?
Anonymous
https://www.instagram.com/dcunitedacademy/

Please any of these kids have above 3.0 gpa, what's the point study when you are going pro?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/dcunitedacademy/

Please any of these kids have above 3.0 gpa, what's the point study when you are going pro?


DCU late into the game, other academies like NY and Union got notched, that's why kids are being recruited out side of DMV. Kids are jumping ship.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/dcunitedacademy/

Please any of these kids have above 3.0 gpa, what's the point study when you are going pro?


What a dunce, dark and ignorant comment from a supposedly adult.

What kind of socioeconomic households and family backgrounds do you think DC United Academy kids come from?
I guess if they were exceptional LaCrosse players you would ASSume they had 4.2 GPA's?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/dcunitedacademy/

Please any of these kids have above 3.0 gpa, what's the point study when you are going pro?


DCU late into the game, other academies like NY and Union got notched, that's why kids are being recruited out side of DMV. Kids are jumping ship.


Please explain, and leave no details unturned, the process of DC United Academy kids being "recruited" by other MLS Clubs academies and what the "jumping ship" precise steps are.

Also, can you drop a few names of kids who jumped from DCU to Red Bulls, NYCFC and Philly Union?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I honestly have no idea. Some MLS Next scores are being posted on the Soccer Rankings app, but they're not complete, by any means.


Did you pay for the PRO version of that app? Didn't know they show scores...


Yep. It has scores, a breakdown of the ratings, and a prediction function.


Where are they getting these scores? Is Next scores online somewhere?


User input. Nope.
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