Tenleytown Wawa Fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being scared of Tenleytown. Some of you seemingly don't have the courage to leave your houses. What's it like being scared of life?

The cavalier attitude that people have about living in the most dangerous capitol cities in the Western World, and one of the most dangerous cities in America, is sad. Tenleytown is a cesspool compared to the nice parts of NYC and Boston - cities that aren’t on a downward trajectory crime wise. Cleveland Park, Tenleytown, and Friendship Heights used to be the nicer parts of DC in the 90s and early 2000s. Why is it weird to you and others that people are disturbed that they’ve backslid?

If we’re doing comparisons to NYC, Tenleytown most closely resembles some UWS neighborhoods from about a decade ago, until young families moved in to revive them.

I lived in Cleveland Park in the 90s. It was not utopia. I passed by multiple homeless people on my way to school. All the stores had pan handlers. I witnessed a crack bust from my living room (tons of police cars chased a car and blocked it in and unloaded all the drugs maybe 100 feet from me). Random people would ring our doorbell and beg for money.

I mean it was a nice place to grow up but there was plenty of homelessness, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being scared of Tenleytown. Some of you seemingly don't have the courage to leave your houses. What's it like being scared of life?

The cavalier attitude that people have about living in the most dangerous capitol cities in the Western World, and one of the most dangerous cities in America, is sad. Tenleytown is a cesspool compared to the nice parts of NYC and Boston - cities that aren’t on a downward trajectory crime wise. Cleveland Park, Tenleytown, and Friendship Heights used to be the nicer parts of DC in the 90s and early 2000s. Why is it weird to you and others that people are disturbed that they’ve backslid?

If we’re doing comparisons to NYC, Tenleytown most closely resembles some UWS neighborhoods from about a decade ago, until young families moved in to revive them.

I lived in Cleveland Park in the 90s. It was not utopia. I passed by multiple homeless people on my way to school. All the stores had pan handlers. I witnessed a crack bust from my living room (tons of police cars chased a car and blocked it in and unloaded all the drugs maybe 100 feet from me). Random people would ring our doorbell and beg for money.

I mean it was a nice place to grow up but there was plenty of homelessness, etc.

I guess we were all hoping it would go up, not further down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being scared of Tenleytown. Some of you seemingly don't have the courage to leave your houses. What's it like being scared of life?

The cavalier attitude that people have about living in the most dangerous capitol cities in the Western World, and one of the most dangerous cities in America, is sad. Tenleytown is a cesspool compared to the nice parts of NYC and Boston - cities that aren’t on a downward trajectory crime wise. Cleveland Park, Tenleytown, and Friendship Heights used to be the nicer parts of DC in the 90s and early 2000s. Why is it weird to you and others that people are disturbed that they’ve backslid?

If we’re doing comparisons to NYC, Tenleytown most closely resembles some UWS neighborhoods from about a decade ago, until young families moved in to revive them.

I lived in Cleveland Park in the 90s. It was not utopia. I passed by multiple homeless people on my way to school. All the stores had pan handlers. I witnessed a crack bust from my living room (tons of police cars chased a car and blocked it in and unloaded all the drugs maybe 100 feet from me). Random people would ring our doorbell and beg for money.

I mean it was a nice place to grow up but there was plenty of homelessness, etc.

That doesn’t sound like a nice place to grow up tbh. Your learned acceptance of blight is not the stuff of a normal childhood. Kids growing up in places like Forest Hills, Queens, and the UWS aren’t experiencing the same level of problems and violence that people in NW take for granted.

DC is an objectively dangerous city, even by American standards. The only cities approaching its murder rate are Baltimore and New Orleans. DC has an even higher murder rate than Philadelphia and Chicago.

[Anonymous]

I agree. The people who feel like they earned street cred "back in the day", so now we just have to stick with abysmal conditions are annoying. I'm a DC native and beyond disappointed that the tiny "renaissance" that Tony Williams ushered in has been extinguished to the tune of so many apologists. Awful!

[Anonymous]

Food for thought. Any support for CVS, Target, Wawa in Tenley or are we ready to kiss them off too?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/business/drug-stores-closing-rite-aid-cvs-walgreens/index.html

"Theft has become a problem for drugstores in some locations, and some stores have resorted to locking up products to prevent theft. But this has made the customer experience worse.

“Theft appears to be hitting drug retailers more than other categories,” Silverman said".

[Anonymous]

Retail corps like to blame crime whenever they shut down stores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Retail corps like to blame crime whenever they shut down stores.

That's your hot take? Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Retail corps like to blame crime whenever they shut down stores.

But we're actually seeing the impact of crime. Target and CVS (off of Wisconsin) now have guards and kids have to wait or they are not allowed entry without an adult. Many products are locked up for a reason. I don't see this same nonsense at other locations. If these establishments close, it's because of crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s address the real problems facing the residents of DC and rename more things.

LOL

This is also what you get for having 32% of JR "at risk youth" mixing with wealthy NIMBYs. It's like oil and water.

Just make the schools in other wards better and stop forcing diversity

Where do you get 32% from? It makes sense. Pre-covid - Tenley was not the dumpster it is today and I did not witness Wilson kids committing theft or throwing bottles at cars or smoking weed. Not sure why it went downhill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Retail corps like to blame crime whenever they shut down stores.

But we're actually seeing the impact of crime. Target and CVS (off of Wisconsin) now have guards and kids have to wait or they are not allowed entry without an adult. Many products are locked up for a reason. I don't see this same nonsense at other locations. If these establishments close, it's because of crime.

It's so weird the PP enjoys getting their shampoo or whatever unlocked to buy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s address the real problems facing the residents of DC and rename more things.

LOL

This is also what you get for having 32% of JR "at risk youth" mixing with wealthy NIMBYs. It's like oil and water.

Just make the schools in other wards better and stop forcing diversity

Where do you get 32% from? It makes sense. Pre-covid - Tenley was not the dumpster it is today and I did not witness Wilson kids committing theft or throwing bottles at cars or smoking weed. Not sure why it went downhill.

I don't know the statistics, but this behavior has been unchecked for a while, including pre-covid. Honestly, covid was a nice interlude without the misbehavior. Tell me I'm wrong. I was there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s address the real problems facing the residents of DC and rename more things.

LOL

This is also what you get for having 32% of JR "at risk youth" mixing with wealthy NIMBYs. It's like oil and water.

Just make the schools in other wards better and stop forcing diversity

Where do you get 32% from? It makes sense. Pre-covid - Tenley was not the dumpster it is today and I did not witness Wilson kids committing theft or throwing bottles at cars or smoking weed. Not sure why it went downhill.

No meaningful consequences. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on here want to focus this discussion on Tenleytown and others on Dc in general. DC is experiencing high crime at the moment, there's no doubt about that when you look at the statistics. Most of NW DC, as in the past decades, is mainly insulated from that. Again, see the stats. There is no rash of carjackings, shootings, drug turf wars, etc in upper NW DC. I went to high school in this area in the late seventies and until recently, had kids in DCPS schools around Tenleytown. Back in the day, there was a lot more underage drinking, plenty of weed use and more teenage pregnancy. Kids driving under the influence seems to have also been much, much higher. Fights occurred at schools just like today. I remember going to some of the first Ft. Reno concerts; there was mayhem afterwards with stoned, drunk kids with cigarettes dangling from their mouths seeking the closest party after each event. Today, parents come to functions like those concerts and bring their kids! The number of unhoused people has gone way up but that's everywhere. Retail has struggle around here [like in many places] since online shopping became popular.
There is certainly more diversity today: There are way more Jews, Blacks, Asians and other groups living in the formerly all-white neighborhoods of upper NW although this part of DC could still be labeled Caucasia as we used to do - decades ago. I think some people are triggered by seeing large groups of African American students at JR HS and hanging out at adjacent Tenleytown. Several decades ago, kids hang out even more - remember, there was no internet and as I remember it, there was much less helicopter parenting and kids could "free range" more than they are allowed to now. So things have changed as everywhere does but what strikes me, having lived here as a youth and returned decades later, is how much it has stayed the same.

100% this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s address the real problems facing the residents of DC and rename more things.

LOL

This is also what you get for having 32% of JR "at risk youth" mixing with wealthy NIMBYs. It's like oil and water.

Just make the schools in other wards better and stop forcing diversity

Where do you get 32% from? It makes sense. Pre-covid - Tenley was not the dumpster it is today and I did not witness Wilson kids committing theft or throwing bottles at cars or smoking weed. Not sure why it went downhill.

No meaningful consequences. Duh.

For a long time. Who is the JR Principal? I lost track after DCPS ran out Pete Cahill on the trumped up "can't magically fix the achievement gap" charge. He actually seemed to care about the kids/community. We went up there once when kids were misbehaving in the alley and he tracked them down and spoke to them from some pretty basic description. But the current principal can't apply any neighborhood behavioral clause? The police can't figure out kids fighting who were without a doubt on Wawa's video feed? I am not saying that the kids in the fight were all JR, but over the years we've had a lot of misbehavior around that school that nobody ever addresses. Including the pattern of rampant theft in the nearby stores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

Are you really so racist that 220 murders (by October!) don’t bother you because most of the victims are Black?

So we're back to this again.

Parts. of. DC. are. extremely. dangerous. and. are. among. the. roughest. places. to. live. in. the. country.

It isn't Ward 3.

Ward 3 residents complaining about crime in Ward 3 and making much ado about things like a high school fight detract from the policing resources that are needed elsewhere in the city with much more urgency.