Tenleytown Wawa Fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being scared of Tenleytown. Some of you seemingly don't have the courage to leave your houses. What's it like being scared of life?

The cavalier attitude that people have about living in the most dangerous capitol cities in the Western World, and one of the most dangerous cities in America, is sad. Tenleytown is a cesspool compared to the nice parts of NYC and Boston - cities that aren’t on a downward trajectory crime wise. Cleveland Park, Tenleytown, and Friendship Heights used to be the nicer parts of DC in the 90s and early 2000s. Why is it weird to you and others that people are disturbed that they’ve backslid?

Exactly. I feel like it used to be desirable to buy a home close to the subway or neighborhood public high school. No longer. Tenley no longer has nice neighborhood establishments because it isn't tenable. The number of police cars that surround this area around school hours is depressing.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

Not sure where your hysterics are coming from? This post is mostly about Tenleytown. I think you need to take a breath and re-read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

What is baffling is your tolerance of crime. Would you tolerate a re-set that includes a neighborhood CVS with mostly empty shelves due to theft? A lively marketplace for carjacked vehicles?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

It is one of the most dangerous capital cities in the Western World. Visit London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin. You don’t have people getting shot, stabbed, and carjacked like DC. It is a very dangerous city. Acting like it’s not is cope.

Even if you want to compare it to American cities, look at the murder rate here compared to NYC. If NYC had the same murder rate as we do they’d have 3,000 murders a year because they have more than 14x as many people. In 2022, New York had 433 murders, because it’s a MUCH safer city. So yes, it is extremely dangerous here.

[Anonymous]

Some people on here want to focus this discussion on Tenleytown and others on Dc in general. DC is experiencing high crime at the moment, there's no doubt about that when you look at the statistics. Most of NW DC, as in the past decades, is mainly insulated from that. Again, see the stats. There is no rash of carjackings, shootings, drug turf wars, etc in upper NW DC. I went to high school in this area in the late seventies and until recently, had kids in DCPS schools around Tenleytown. Back in the day, there was a lot more underage drinking, plenty of weed use and more teenage pregnancy. Kids driving under the influence seems to have also been much, much higher. Fights occurred at schools just like today. I remember going to some of the first Ft. Reno concerts; there was mayhem afterwards with stoned, drunk kids with cigarettes dangling from their mouths seeking the closest party after each event. Today, parents come to functions like those concerts and bring their kids! The number of unhoused people has gone way up but that's everywhere. Retail has struggle around here [like in many places] since online shopping became popular.
There is certainly more diversity today: There are way more Jews, Blacks, Asians and other groups living in the formerly all-white neighborhoods of upper NW although this part of DC could still be labeled Caucasia as we used to do - decades ago. I think some people are triggered by seeing large groups of African American students at JR HS and hanging out at adjacent Tenleytown. Several decades ago, kids hang out even more - remember, there was no internet and as I remember it, there was much less helicopter parenting and kids could "free range" more than they are allowed to now. So things have changed as everywhere does but what strikes me, having lived here as a youth and returned decades later, is how much it has stayed the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s address the real problems facing the residents of DC and rename more things.

LOL

This is also what you get for having 32% of JR "at risk youth" mixing with wealthy NIMBYs. It's like oil and water.

Just make the schools in other wards better and stop forcing diversity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where this narrative that DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the world narrative is coming from, it's sick.
Many businesses were suffering prior to the pandemic and were on the brink of bankruptcy anyway; COVID just sped that process up.
DC chose to lockdown and delay re-opening for 2.5 years. Everything is just resetting itself.

The hysteria is baffling and ridiculous.

Are you really so racist that 220 murders (by October!) don’t bother you because most of the victims are Black?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids in DC barely get a slap on the wrist for carjacking. ^ I'm guessing your kids were involved if you're reacting like that to "a warning?" " Anything?"

Didn't lead with warning. Led with arrested.

"Were the involved kids identified? Arrested? given warnings? Anything?"

Good questions. Any updates?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tenleytown used to be a nice place to sit on the deck with the family at Guapos or drop the kid off at tae kwon doe. Now I drive instead of walk through and avoid the business and the general area unless I absolutely "have to". Metro at school start or finish? Heck no.
So much for Main Street USA.

I recognize that people's perceptions of their own personal safety vary, so I guess I'll just say I have not felt at all compelled to avoid Tenleytown and/or the Metro around when school is starting or letting out.

School times it’s fine, it’s the non school times that’s the problem. Erratic PIW patients seem to be congregating and I see many just walking in the middle of Wisconsin.

PIW has gotten out of hand too, agreed. Tentleytown needs an action plan. The neighborhood business association has tried things foryears. They need more support.

If people are concerned about this, then they should be volunteering with the Tenleytown Main Street, which has been an effective organization working with the stores, the schools and the police, for years.

Why would anyone volunteer for the mayor’s developer astroturf program that the OIG has found was susceptible to waste, fraud and abuse? You’re better off volunteering at your ANC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being scared of Tenleytown. Some of you seemingly don't have the courage to leave your houses. What's it like being scared of life?

The cavalier attitude that people have about living in the most dangerous capitol cities in the Western World, and one of the most dangerous cities in America, is sad. Tenleytown is a cesspool compared to the nice parts of NYC and Boston - cities that aren’t on a downward trajectory crime wise. Cleveland Park, Tenleytown, and Friendship Heights used to be the nicer parts of DC in the 90s and early 2000s. Why is it weird to you and others that people are disturbed that they’ve backslid?

If we’re doing comparisons to NYC, Tenleytown most closely resembles some UWS neighborhoods from about a decade ago, until young families moved in to revive them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids in DC barely get a slap on the wrist for carjacking. ^ I'm guessing your kids were involved if you're reacting like that to "a warning?" " Anything?"

Didn't lead with warning. Led with arrested.

"Were the involved kids identified? Arrested? given warnings? Anything?"

Good questions. Any updates?

Even if they were arrested, absolutely nothing would happen. Most kids who wave guns around don't even get punished in DC? a massive fight is nothing to MPD

[Anonymous]

This post football game mayhem has been reported in the local media for area schools only in the past few years and coincides with the rise of social media—W-L and Yorktown students at McDonalds, B-CC and Walter Johnson students at Chipotle, J-R and Dunbar kids at Wawa, Langley and McLean kids at McDonalds, etc.—but it’s nothing new.

Before social media, these events weren’t documented so they didn’t make the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on here want to focus this discussion on Tenleytown and others on Dc in general. DC is experiencing high crime at the moment, there's no doubt about that when you look at the statistics. Most of NW DC, as in the past decades, is mainly insulated from that. Again, see the stats. There is no rash of carjackings, shootings, drug turf wars, etc in upper NW DC. I went to high school in this area in the late seventies and until recently, had kids in DCPS schools around Tenleytown. Back in the day, there was a lot more underage drinking, plenty of weed use and more teenage pregnancy. Kids driving under the influence seems to have also been much, much higher. Fights occurred at schools just like today. I remember going to some of the first Ft. Reno concerts; there was mayhem afterwards with stoned, drunk kids with cigarettes dangling from their mouths seeking the closest party after each event. Today, parents come to functions like those concerts and bring their kids! The number of unhoused people has gone way up but that's everywhere. Retail has struggle around here [like in many places] since online shopping became popular.
There is certainly more diversity today: There are way more Jews, Blacks, Asians and other groups living in the formerly all-white neighborhoods of upper NW although this part of DC could still be labeled Caucasia as we used to do - decades ago. I think some people are triggered by seeing large groups of African American students at JR HS and hanging out at adjacent Tenleytown. Several decades ago, kids hang out even more - remember, there was no internet and as I remember it, there was much less helicopter parenting and kids could "free range" more than they are allowed to now. So things have changed as everywhere does but what strikes me, having lived here as a youth and returned decades later, is how much it has stayed the same.

NW DC: I'm from DC and remember teen fun in Ft. Reno (some great bands). I went when I was 13, 14 and felt totally safe. I don't recall any 'mayhem', just people heading home and calling to each other where they were going. We had fun, adults had fun. I assume there was teen shoplifting of the "I dare you variety". I don't recall shelves being stripped of their merchandise every day, do you? These fights you speak of... people would just break out in fights with police presence? In stores? I don't recall that at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post football game mayhem has been reported in the local media for area schools only in the past few years and coincides with the rise of social media—W-L and Yorktown students at McDonalds, B-CC and Walter Johnson students at Chipotle, J-R and Dunbar kids at Wawa, Langley and McLean kids at McDonalds, etc.—but it’s nothing new.

Before social media, these events weren’t documented so they didn’t make the news.

There’s a lot of local stories that somehow became big deals over the past few years. Like a guy with covid having a fentanyl overdose.