Tenleytown Wawa Fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Why is my IB kid in a trailer if 38% are OOB?

DC politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been following this. MacArthur isn't up and running yet, so this is a future thing?
However this is what I predict--MacArthur will be all in-bounds (it's hard to get to), JR will be even more OOB.
No?

MacArthur is open, but Hardy students still have feeder rights for Jackson-Reed until 2025. After that they lose their rights. There’s plenty of space for them at Jackson-Reed if the OOB population was cut down (there are currently over 700 OOB students at J-R). But the school opted to kick out people who bought property in-boundary for J-R in order to keep an enormous number of OOB students at the school. It’s clear that city leadership doesn’t want a local Ward 3 school.

The way the city split up the schools now, neither Deal nor Hardy will have enough students to fill up the high school they feed into. The extra spaces are going to be open city-wide slots. It’s a way for the city to ensure that the two schools are going to be permanently hybrids of IB and city-wide high schools.

Despite all this, Bowser keeps trying to cut the funding for J-R.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Better yet, if an out of boundary student commits a major infraction then s/he should be removed from the OOB school and sent back to the on-boundary school. And to proceed from one feeder division to the next, the student should maintain at least a C average. The privilege of attending an OOB school shouldn’t be wasted on troublemakers and lazy slackers.

This is a very good idea

How about if they are sent to an alternative school for kids who routinely commit major infractions? when did we stop doing that?

It just came out that the police union completely lied about his incident. There were about 50 kids, and only a few involved in a fight. It was not a crazy out of control situation. It was kids fist fighting. I'm not suggesting that that's ok, but I am suggesting that all of this talk about "out of bounds" and out of control kids was a fabrication. Unfortunately, they are not admitting that it was overblown. I heard the updated story on the City Cast podcast, which is great if you don't listen.

I'm going to to reup this post because the comments on here are ridiculous. I don't have a dog in this hunt. My kid graduated from "Wilson" and we were in bound. However, if we know the police union lied about the extent of the fight, would you still be this hostile to OOB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

I totally agree with the lack of respect for a community hub. My son takes the bus to his charter from behind Whole Foods every morning and the amount of TRASH! My god! Do these kids just walk out of Wawa and toss their trash on the ground? The JR staff needs to be responsible for that median. But more critically, parents need to teach their kids that their mess is not someone else's responsibility. If I saw my child throw a piece of trash on the ground it wouldn't be pretty.

On another unfortunate note, at drop off this morning, a naked man under a sheet was being arrested under the WF awning. That's where my kid gets picked up. We sat and watched the whole thing before I let him get out of the car. Now this guy was not a student obviously, but Tenleytown needs to get its act together. Its a mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

So do you assume that it's just the OOB students who are throwing trash on the ground? My kid was inbound and I know it's not just the OOB.

[Anonymous]

PP here, I didn't say anything about OOB kids. Every kid at JR needs a lesson in what to do with their trash. And until they do, the school should take care of that median. WF building complex owners should take care of the Wawa side. It's a public nuisance and an absolute shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

I totally agree with the lack of respect for a community hub. My son takes the bus to his charter from behind Whole Foods every morning and the amount of TRASH! My god! Do these kids just walk out of Wawa and toss their trash on the ground? The JR staff needs to be responsible for that median. But more critically, parents need to teach their kids that their mess is not someone else's responsibility. If I saw my child throw a piece of trash on the ground it wouldn't be pretty.

On another unfortunate note, at drop off this morning, a naked man under a sheet was being arrested under the WF awning. That's where my kid gets picked up. We sat and watched the whole thing before I let him get out of the car. Now this guy was not a student obviously, but Tenleytown needs to get its act together. Its a mess.

Why aren't there MPD foot patrols in Tenleytown? It's really the cross-roads of Ward 3, with a Metro stop, retail serving a broad area, and several schools (public, private, parochial) and recreational facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Better yet, if an out of boundary student commits a major infraction then s/he should be removed from the OOB school and sent back to the on-boundary school. And to proceed from one feeder division to the next, the student should maintain at least a C average. The privilege of attending an OOB school shouldn’t be wasted on troublemakers and lazy slackers.

This is a very good idea

How about if they are sent to an alternative school for kids who routinely commit major infractions? when did we stop doing that?

It just came out that the police union completely lied about his incident. There were about 50 kids, and only a few involved in a fight. It was not a crazy out of control situation. It was kids fist fighting. I'm not suggesting that that's ok, but I am suggesting that all of this talk about "out of bounds" and out of control kids was a fabrication. Unfortunately, they are not admitting that it was overblown. I heard the updated story on the City Cast podcast, which is great if you don't listen.

I'm going to to reup this post because the comments on here are ridiculous. I don't have a dog in this hunt. My kid graduated from "Wilson" and we were in bound. However, if we know the police union lied about the extent of the fight, would you still be this hostile to OOB?

Not hostile to OOB. But very hostile to the troublemakers where ever they live. And hostile to OOD - out of District - those fraudsters who live in Maryland but send their kids to DC schools, including "Wilson." When Ward 3 neighborhoods that fed to Deal and Wilson are no longer welcome in those schools, it's frustrating beyond belief that kids who don't even live in DC are taking valuable spaces on the taxpayer's dime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Better yet, if an out of boundary student commits a major infraction then s/he should be removed from the OOB school and sent back to the on-boundary school. And to proceed from one feeder division to the next, the student should maintain at least a C average. The privilege of attending an OOB school shouldn’t be wasted on troublemakers and lazy slackers.

This is a very good idea

How about if they are sent to an alternative school for kids who routinely commit major infractions? when did we stop doing that?

It just came out that the police union completely lied about his incident. There were about 50 kids, and only a few involved in a fight. It was not a crazy out of control situation. It was kids fist fighting. I'm not suggesting that that's ok, but I am suggesting that all of this talk about "out of bounds" and out of control kids was a fabrication. Unfortunately, they are not admitting that it was overblown. I heard the updated story on the City Cast podcast, which is great if you don't listen.

I'm going to to reup this post because the comments on here are ridiculous. I don't have a dog in this hunt. My kid graduated from "Wilson" and we were in bound. However, if we know the police union lied about the extent of the fight, would you still be this hostile to OOB?

Not hostile to OOB. But very hostile to the troublemakers where ever they live. And hostile to OOD - out of District - those fraudsters who live in Maryland but send their kids to DC schools, including "Wilson." When Ward 3 neighborhoods that fed to Deal and Wilson are no longer welcome in those schools, it's frustrating beyond belief that kids who don't even live in DC are taking valuable spaces on the taxpayer's dime.

These days, it's very hard to live in MD and send your kid to a DC school. More often than not, the parents are divorced and one parent has left the District.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Better yet, if an out of boundary student commits a major infraction then s/he should be removed from the OOB school and sent back to the on-boundary school. And to proceed from one feeder division to the next, the student should maintain at least a C average. The privilege of attending an OOB school shouldn’t be wasted on troublemakers and lazy slackers.

And what is the appropriate proportional punishment for in-bounds students? Or is the assumption just that no one who lives in the neighborhoods in bounds for these schools would ever (shudder) get a C?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

Better yet, if an out of boundary student commits a major infraction then s/he should be removed from the OOB school and sent back to the on-boundary school. And to proceed from one feeder division to the next, the student should maintain at least a C average. The privilege of attending an OOB school shouldn’t be wasted on troublemakers and lazy slackers.

And what is the appropriate proportional punishment for in-bounds students? Or is the assumption just that no one who lives in the neighborhoods in bounds for these schools would ever (shudder) get a C?

Under the residency based school system which DC has, an in bounds student has to be accommodated at the school for which he or she is zoned. If the student’s behavior is criminal, of course, then the student can be sent to juvenile hall or prison regardless. If residence. An out of boundary student attends the OOB school as a privilege so if the student is disruptive then the student should be sent back to the assigned school and free up the spot for a student who is motivated to make the most of the opportunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

So do you assume that it's just the OOB students who are throwing trash on the ground? My kid was inbound and I know it's not just the OOB.

No, I don't. But I see zero school-community partnership, and I assume some kids are and a high number are OOB. So, both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.

The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.

This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”

We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.

I totally agree with the lack of respect for a community hub. My son takes the bus to his charter from behind Whole Foods every morning and the amount of TRASH! My god! Do these kids just walk out of Wawa and toss their trash on the ground? The JR staff needs to be responsible for that median. But more critically, parents need to teach their kids that their mess is not someone else's responsibility. If I saw my child throw a piece of trash on the ground it wouldn't be pretty.

On another unfortunate note, at drop off this morning, a naked man under a sheet was being arrested under the WF awning. That's where my kid gets picked up. We sat and watched the whole thing before I let him get out of the car. Now this guy was not a student obviously, but Tenleytown needs to get its act together. Its a mess.

Why aren't there MPD foot patrols in Tenleytown? It's really the cross-roads of Ward 3, with a Metro stop, retail serving a broad area, and several schools (public, private, parochial) and recreational facilities.

This. there is a police car parked with blinking lights at dismissal, but since no kids were even charged or cautioned in the Wawa fight....not sure at this point it does much. Far more effective would be admin from JR and police on foot--collaborating.