PSAT disasters today--

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is very helpful. I thought it was curve based on everyone who took the test. So if the test was hard compared to the test before (for example, a Sept test if there was one) then how does that even out? Sorry, don’t mean to be dumb here but just don’t understand it.

All kids get the same group of questions for the first modules. Depending on how they do, they will either get a similar second set or a harder second set. The questions in the harder set are weighted higher. So, if a kid does not get the harder questions, their score will have a ceiling below the max possible score for the test.

so does getting the easier second set(s) preclude NMSF?
I would imagine so, especially in DC/VA/MD.

It sounds like it. I don't like the capped score at all. I think that really hurts kids who come out in the 1200-1400 range on paper. I'm kind of hoping that mine does well enough on the paper exams that the digital in the spring doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will be interesting to see how it comes out with the digital. My child thought the digital was much easier because the questions were easier and the reading passages were much shorter, and there was only one question per reading so let’s to have to go back too. Plus she said she had so much time remains versus the poet where she struggled with time constraints. She’s taking the paper SAT this fall since she’s a junior but may score better in the spring with the digital.

I also heard that the reading section was easier b/c there was little going back and forth. That is definitely a time saver. I do wonder if the math seeming easier means that they didn't a chance at all the questions. Of course, it could also mean that they just do better on digital questions. I think the adaptive test really does a disservice to kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will be interesting to see how it comes out with the digital. My child thought the digital was much easier because the questions were easier and the reading passages were much shorter, and there was only one question per reading so let’s to have to go back too. Plus she said she had so much time remains versus the poet where she struggled with time constraints. She’s taking the paper SAT this fall since she’s a junior but may score better in the spring with the digital.

I also heard that the reading section was easier b/c there was little going back and forth. That is definitely a time saver. I do wonder if the math seeming easier means that they didn't a chance at all the questions. Of course, it could also mean that they just do better on digital questions. I think the adaptive test really does a disservice to kids.

How so? After some initial resistance, I see its benefits. Kids seem to like it better too—it seems easier, it’s quicker, scores are received sooner. It adapts so a kid who struggles doesn’t have to sit for hours being miserable. All seem to be pluses for students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will be interesting to see how it comes out with the digital. My child thought the digital was much easier because the questions were easier and the reading passages were much shorter, and there was only one question per reading so let’s to have to go back too. Plus she said she had so much time remains versus the poet where she struggled with time constraints. She’s taking the paper SAT this fall since she’s a junior but may score better in the spring with the digital.

I also heard that the reading section was easier b/c there was little going back and forth. That is definitely a time saver. I do wonder if the math seeming easier means that they didn't a chance at all the questions. Of course, it could also mean that they just do better on digital questions. I think the adaptive test really does a disservice to kids.

How so? After some initial resistance, I see its benefits. Kids seem to like it better too—it seems easier, it’s quicker, scores are received sooner. It adapts so a kid who struggles doesn’t have to sit for hours being miserable. All seem to be pluses for students.

We don't know how the decision is made to cap the test. Let's say, it's based on getting all the harder ones correct. A student gets two hard ones incorrect and is sent to the easier test where their score is capped. If given the harder one, the student may have been able to answer the questions anyway and earned a higher score. Using the paper format, the kids all have the same opportunity. With the digital one, a simple mistake could cost you hundreds of points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will be interesting to see how it comes out with the digital. My child thought the digital was much easier because the questions were easier and the reading passages were much shorter, and there was only one question per reading so let’s to have to go back too. Plus she said she had so much time remains versus the poet where she struggled with time constraints. She’s taking the paper SAT this fall since she’s a junior but may score better in the spring with the digital.

I also heard that the reading section was easier b/c there was little going back and forth. That is definitely a time saver. I do wonder if the math seeming easier means that they didn't a chance at all the questions. Of course, it could also mean that they just do better on digital questions. I think the adaptive test really does a disservice to kids.

How so? After some initial resistance, I see its benefits. Kids seem to like it better too—it seems easier, it’s quicker, scores are received sooner. It adapts so a kid who struggles doesn’t have to sit for hours being miserable. All seem to be pluses for students.

We don't know how the decision is made to cap the test. Let's say, it's based on getting all the harder ones correct. A student gets two hard ones incorrect and is sent to the easier test where their score is capped. If given the harder one, the student may have been able to answer the questions anyway and earned a higher score. Using the paper format, the kids all have the same opportunity. With the digital one, a simple mistake could cost you hundreds of points.

That’s your theory about how it might work. But it doesn’t necessarily work that way, and in fact there’s good reason to suppose it doesn’t. We’ll know a lot more when scores start coming out in November.

[Anonymous]

According to a tutor who works with international students already taking the digital tests along with the paper tests says students have scored similarly on both tests. It will be interesting to see if that is the case.

My kid liked the digital test but better but did acknowledge that it was still hard. She was scoring in the 1400s for the paper practice tests so we are waiting for the PSAT results too make a decision.

I thought the digital results were supposed to be released more quickly that the paper results, but it does not seem to be the case here.

[jsteele]

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