What can American women learn from foreign women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- more feminine
- more attractive
- kinder + more empathy
- more polite
- mentally in a better place
- more fun
- live in the moment
- prefer manly men and more defined gender roles
- More romantic and passionate. American women don't really seem like they value men.

This is just off the top of my head and varies a ton depending on country.

so you want her to work and do most of the housechores/childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- more feminine
- more attractive
- kinder + more empathy
- more polite
- mentally in a better place
- more fun
- live in the moment
- prefer manly men and more defined gender roles
- More romantic and passionate. American women don't really seem like they value men.

This is just off the top of my head and varies a ton depending on country.

Nope to the bolded. Foreign women are harsh. Lol perhaps they are more polite to strangers? But they are blunt with their loved ones.

A Foreign woman would be much more likely than an American woman to tell her DH without blinking an eye that his belly is too big

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

Foreign woman here. Me too.

The other day, I was actually wishing I had a foreign wife. My DH does at least half of the household work, but I could use some more help. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

Yes, they were both amazed how much weight I pulled off while married and yet how I managed to retain my looks. I'm indeed slender and attractive, and eat one big meal a day as PP noted about European women. I had nearly 100% second dates follow ups when I was looking for a partner. I also come across on the very first date in a way that he feels "I finally met her". Easy and deep at same time, playful conversation. It felt so bad to turn down many great dates, after hearing this phrase. I always grant a second date unless he came across as a self-centered idiot, and turn down after the second. I would tell them my ex came back and we reconciled (my upbringing is never turn a man down). Never would tell a man he's got a belly or there is no chemistry etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

Yes, they were both amazed how much weight I pulled off while married and yet how I managed to retain my looks. I'm indeed slender and attractive, and eat one big meal a day as PP noted about European women. I had nearly 100% second dates follow ups when I was looking for a partner. I also come across on the very first date in a way that he feels "I finally met her". Easy and deep at same time, playful conversation. It felt so bad to turn down many great dates, after hearing this phrase. I always grant a second date unless he came across as a self-centered idiot, and turn down after the second. I would tell them my ex came back and we reconciled (my upbringing is never turn a man down). Never would tell a man he's got a belly or there is no chemistry etc.

Are you OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

Yes, they were both amazed how much weight I pulled off while married and yet how I managed to retain my looks. I'm indeed slender and attractive, and eat one big meal a day as PP noted about European women. I had nearly 100% second dates follow ups when I was looking for a partner. I also come across on the very first date in a way that he feels "I finally met her". Easy and deep at same time, playful conversation. It felt so bad to turn down many great dates, after hearing this phrase. I always grant a second date unless he came across as a self-centered idiot, and turn down after the second. I would tell them my ex came back and we reconciled (my upbringing is never turn a man down). Never would tell a man he's got a belly or there is no chemistry etc.

Are you OP?

No

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Resilience to stress, relationship stable, very level headed and high achieving (in looks, financially and household duties). But it's subdued, not in your face. I'm also thin in my 40s and retained my attractiveness. These are the skills American men told me they notice vs US born women. Eastern European F here.

Finding it very hard to believe multiple American men have said so many highly female-coded compliments about a woman’s skills (lol). If true, they might have just been trying to get laid you know.

Both US born men I dated post divorce told me that.

so basically those American men liked that you did more in the home than American women. Of course, men would find that attractive. Heck, I'd find that attractive, too, and I'm a woman.

Yes, they were both amazed how much weight I pulled off while married and yet how I managed to retain my looks. I'm indeed slender and attractive, and eat one big meal a day as PP noted about European women. I had nearly 100% second dates follow ups when I was looking for a partner. I also come across on the very first date in a way that he feels "I finally met her". Easy and deep at same time, playful conversation. It felt so bad to turn down many great dates, after hearing this phrase. I always grant a second date unless he came across as a self-centered idiot, and turn down after the second. I would tell them my ex came back and we reconciled (my upbringing is never turn a man down). Never would tell a man he's got a belly or there is no chemistry etc.

Are you OP?

No

Okay. Just the discussion elsewhere of the likely motives for the thread looked very similar to your post.

[Anonymous]

What I have learned from this thread is that both men and women would like to marry a subservient stereotype of a foreign woman.

[Anonymous]

Looks like it's high time for subservient stereotypes of foreign women to learn about the union spirit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I have learned from this thread is that both men and women would like to marry a subservient stereotype of a foreign woman.

Yes and then that same man is now surprised that he has to move the subservient wife the subservient mom // subservient dad // subservient sister and subservient brother inlaw of said wife - to the u.s. and is often the sole financial provider for all of them.

I have seen this time and time again. White men with Eastern European women, Asian women, black men with Caribbean women or South American women, on and on.

[Anonymous]

These men think they are getting a prize - but it’s more like SURPRISE!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These men think they are getting a prize - but it’s more like SURPRISE!!!

I am a woman, and I will live with a subservient woman's family any day if they could cook and clean and help with the baby. Lol.

[Anonymous]

A lovely accent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My parents are from a Middle Eastern culture and I think there is so much pressure on women in that culture to conform to the following standard:

- educated with a high paying career
- keep up their looks, don’t get fat, dress pretty and wear makeup and have long glossy black hair
- maintain an attractive, clean home and know how to cook, or you will look bad
- religious (but you still have to look sexy) and raising children to behave appropriately and follow cultural expectations

The men have the following expectations:
- have a job

I think American men may find this nightmare sort of awesome.

Uh, no. In patriarchal cultures, men have to be rich to have social value. (Actually, this is true in all cultures to varying degrees.)