Governor Ron DeSantis Suspends State Attorney Monique Worrell for Neglect of Duty and Incompetence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

They don’t have any. It’s pure bigotry on their parts.

DP.

She refused to convict violent criminals, even when the evidence was overwhelming. But you already knew that.

She was removed for dereliction of duty, in accordance with the state constitution.

[Anonymous]

She refused to convict violent criminals, even when the evidence was overwhelming. But you already knew that.

Where’s the evidence of that? District Attorneys don’t convict people, by the way. Judges and juries do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

Easy to say when you're not the one who is robbed at gunpoint, assaulted, raped, shot, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Proving my point politics is local When it reaches your doorstep, you’ll change

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Proving my point politics is local When it reaches your doorstep, you’ll change

Sure. But you can pick your location. Either way this is still a stunt to move the conversation away from us shitastic campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Armed robbery, attempted rape, etc committed by teens reflects little empathy for others, for whatever underlying reasons. It's not really that hard to predict who is going to be a repeat, violent offender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Armed robbery, attempted rape, etc committed by teens reflects little empathy for others, for whatever underlying reasons. It's not really that hard to predict who is going to be a repeat, violent offender.

Well sinking them further into the system certainly guarantees that.
Look I’m not particularly sympathetic to teenage criminals. But I’d need more statistics that her office was engaged in a pattern of dereliction of duty. A handful of cases doesn’t persuade me. Again, DeSantis’ campaign is a real stinker. He was supposed to the heir apparent, and instead he’s fizzled to sad puddin’ fingered troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Proving my point politics is local When it reaches your doorstep, you’ll change

Like you did? Like hardcore tactics have been used for a long time and don’t seem to work yet Republicans still run full speed into that wall (except for Republicans convicted of crime. Those folks have already been through too much!).

And again, why only fire the Democratic AGs? Are the crime stats for the Republican AGs so much better? Because it looks like - oh, gee, this scary word for fascists to hear - it looks like fascism the way Ronnie targets his political opponents, and all on the flimsiest of evidence. Of course flimsy evidence is a hallmark of Republicanism.

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Armed robbery, attempted rape, etc committed by teens reflects little empathy for others, for whatever underlying reasons. It's not really that hard to predict who is going to be a repeat, violent offender.

Well sinking them further into the system certainly guarantees that.
Look I’m not particularly sympathetic to teenage criminals. But I’d need more statistics that her office was engaged in a pattern of dereliction of duty. A handful of cases doesn’t persuade me. Again, DeSantis’ campaign is a real stinker. He was supposed to the heir apparent, and instead he’s fizzled to sad puddin’ fingered troll.

PP here. Having worked with at risk kids for years, I don't disagree with you. I wish we'd pour more money for programs geared to help kids from birth to middle school. Sadly, a violent teen rarely changes course, even with interventions. For most, it's too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Armed robbery, attempted rape, etc committed by teens reflects little empathy for others, for whatever underlying reasons. It's not really that hard to predict who is going to be a repeat, violent offender.

Well sinking them further into the system certainly guarantees that.
Look I’m not particularly sympathetic to teenage criminals. But I’d need more statistics that her office was engaged in a pattern of dereliction of duty. A handful of cases doesn’t persuade me. Again, DeSantis’ campaign is a real stinker. He was supposed to the heir apparent, and instead he’s fizzled to sad puddin’ fingered troll.

PP here. Having worked with at risk kids for years, I don't disagree with you. I wish we'd pour more money for programs geared to help kids from birth to middle school. Sadly, a violent teen rarely changes course, even with interventions. For most, it's too late.

This is going to be a tangent but I’ve always thought that this “progressive” push for restorative Justice has nothing to do with justice. We don’t have the space for this many criminals, and we don’t want to pay to rehabilitate. Not even younger offenders. But I digress…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on examples of Worrell’s alleged incompetence. According to maga on this threads, examples abound. So… what are they?

The answer is just a google search away, my friend!

Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for gun crimes
Pattern or practice to avoid minimum mandatory sentences for drug-trafficking offenses
Pattern or practice to allow juvenile offenders to avoid serious charges and incarceration altogether
Pattern or practice to avoid valid and applicable sentencing enhancements
Pattern or practice limiting charges for child pornography
Pattern or practice withholding adjudications in situations not permitted under Florida law

DeSantis mentioned three cases during the press conference, including a shooting that happened over the weekend that involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers.

Lorenzo Michael Larry, 17, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after he allegedly shot and killed his 16-year-old girlfriend, De’Shayla Ferguson, while she was 20 weeks pregnant in Orange County. He was arrested in November 2022 and is still awaiting trial.

DeSantis pointed out that Larry had previously been arrested in May 2022 for charges including carrying a concealed firearm, possession of a firearm on school property and criminal possession of a firearm by a minor but was released. He further claimed that Worrell’s office did not act on any of the charges until after he was accused of killing his girlfriend.

DeSantis described another case involving a juvenile offender that occurred in 2018. A suspect allegedly invaded an Orange County home and robbed the occupants at gunpoint, according to DeSantis.

The suspect was charged with multiple counts of armed burglary with a firearm, robbery with a firearm and false imprisonment, which Desantis says carries a 10-year minimum sentence with a maximum of life in prison.

DeSantis claims that Worrell decided not to prosecute five of the charges and withheld adjudication on the remaining charges. The suspect was sentenced to 51 weeks of jail time.

The last case DeSantis spoke about involved an incident over the weekend involving a man who shot and critically injured two Orlando police officers during a traffic stop.

The suspect, Daton Viel, has an extensive criminal history with felony charges stemming back to 2016 that include burglary of dwelling, attempted burglary of occupied conveyance, robbery, third-degree grand theft auto, aggravated stalking, trespass on designated construction site, burglary of structure, criminal mischief, two counts of sexual battery of a person between 12 and 18 years old and lewd or lascivious molestation.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/09/why-did-gov-desantis-suspend-florida-state-attorney-monique-worrell/70560223007/

Dp-
Meh. She has a few instances of not throwing the book at minors. Those are tough calls. I’m not seeing a “pattern” . Isolated instances don’t make a “pattern”.
And I don’t always disagree with the removal of prosecutors. Missouri got rid of the horrible prosecutor in St Louis, who was mostly incompetent as well as feckless.
But this smacks of something else entirely.
Desantis’ campaign is in the toilet and he’s trying to claw back the narrative.

These don't look like tough calls to me. the juveniles are already hard core criminals.

+1 Some posters seem to think you're not as violated, harmed, or dead if a juvenile perpetrates the crime against you.

No one has a crystal ball. Their first offenses weren’t murder or assault ( I don’t think) . I’m not going too deep here, because I don’t really care, but the kids referenced were allowed leniency on initial gun charges. At least that’s what I got from this. Again, I don’t really care.
Also, I don’t live somewhere where hoodlums roam with guns. That’s why I don’t live in Florida. That and gators.

Armed robbery, attempted rape, etc committed by teens reflects little empathy for others, for whatever underlying reasons. It's not really that hard to predict who is going to be a repeat, violent offender.

Well sinking them further into the system certainly guarantees that.
Look I’m not particularly sympathetic to teenage criminals. But I’d need more statistics that her office was engaged in a pattern of dereliction of duty. A handful of cases doesn’t persuade me. Again, DeSantis’ campaign is a real stinker. He was supposed to the heir apparent, and instead he’s fizzled to sad puddin’ fingered troll.

PP here. Having worked with at risk kids for years, I don't disagree with you. I wish we'd pour more money for programs geared to help kids from birth to middle school. Sadly, a violent teen rarely changes course, even with interventions. For most, it's too late.

Yes, devastating issues often begin very early on. The first three years are called the foundational years. More encouragement is necessary to build a solid unit before having a baby.

Why doesn’t every high school require a basic financial management course?