dog bit neighbor who reached over fence to pet him

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I cannot imagine having an animal in my home who would attack a non-threat. Or anyone, really. OP, your animal is a problem.
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Not all of us know how to handle your nasty dog, nor should be expected to. Control your animals. Keep them inside if necessary.
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.


Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

No matter how many times you reiterate something, it doesn't make it true. No amount of training is always 100% full proof, so reaching out to pet a dog that is growling and barking at you isn't smart.

You say that the person was non threatening. Well, the dog obviously felt threatened, growled and barked its warning but the neighbor still felt entitled to pet the dog. It's not the dog that needs training, it's the neighbor.


I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. I understand that the old lady was at fault. Of course you shouldn't reach toward a barking, growling dog. I am only saying that I would not want to own a dog that barks and growls and bites people who don't mean any harm.


Please tell us how the dog knows she means no harm. The dog gave a warning, and she continued. If someone was walking towards you, and you said "stop" but they kept coming, what would you think?


Why didn't the OP, who said they were right there, command the dog to stop-since the OP knew the neighbor meant no harm?
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.


Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

No matter how many times you reiterate something, it doesn't make it true. No amount of training is always 100% full proof, so reaching out to pet a dog that is growling and barking at you isn't smart.

You say that the person was non threatening. Well, the dog obviously felt threatened, growled and barked its warning but the neighbor still felt entitled to pet the dog. It's not the dog that needs training, it's the neighbor.


I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. I understand that the old lady was at fault. Of course you shouldn't reach toward a barking, growling dog. I am only saying that I would not want to own a dog that barks and growls and bites people who don't mean any harm.


Please tell us how the dog knows she means no harm. The dog gave a warning, and she continued. If someone was walking towards you, and you said "stop" but they kept coming, what would you think?


The OP's dog clearly thought the lady meant harm. The OP's dog barked and growled and bit. I do not want to own a dog like OP's dog. I own well-trained, well-socialized dogs who understand the difference between people who mean no harm (like nice old ladies, the Amazon delivery guy, running and flailing toddlers, etc) and people who do mean harm.
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.


Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

No matter how many times you reiterate something, it doesn't make it true. No amount of training is always 100% full proof, so reaching out to pet a dog that is growling and barking at you isn't smart.

You say that the person was non threatening. Well, the dog obviously felt threatened, growled and barked its warning but the neighbor still felt entitled to pet the dog. It's not the dog that needs training, it's the neighbor.


I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. I understand that the old lady was at fault. Of course you shouldn't reach toward a barking, growling dog. I am only saying that I would not want to own a dog that barks and growls and bites people who don't mean any harm.


Please tell us how the dog knows she means no harm. The dog gave a warning, and she continued. If someone was walking towards you, and you said "stop" but they kept coming, what would you think?


The OP's dog clearly thought the lady meant harm. The OP's dog barked and growled and bit. I do not want to own a dog like OP's dog. I own well-trained, well-socialized dogs who understand the difference between people who mean no harm (like nice old ladies, the Amazon delivery guy, running and flailing toddlers, etc) and people who do mean harm.


Something tells me that if there was an intruder in your house or on your property, your dogs wouldn't be of much use in deterring the intruder. Most likely they would try to lick the person to death rather than at least bark a warning. But then again, I bet you have dogs that yap rather than bark.
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.


Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

No matter how many times you reiterate something, it doesn't make it true. No amount of training is always 100% full proof, so reaching out to pet a dog that is growling and barking at you isn't smart.

You say that the person was non threatening. Well, the dog obviously felt threatened, growled and barked its warning but the neighbor still felt entitled to pet the dog. It's not the dog that needs training, it's the neighbor.


I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. I understand that the old lady was at fault. Of course you shouldn't reach toward a barking, growling dog. I am only saying that I would not want to own a dog that barks and growls and bites people who don't mean any harm.


Please tell us how the dog knows she means no harm. The dog gave a warning, and she continued. If someone was walking towards you, and you said "stop" but they kept coming, what would you think?


The OP's dog clearly thought the lady meant harm. The OP's dog barked and growled and bit. I do not want to own a dog like OP's dog. I own well-trained, well-socialized dogs who understand the difference between people who mean no harm (like nice old ladies, the Amazon delivery guy, running and flailing toddlers, etc) and people who do mean harm.


Something tells me that if there was an intruder in your house or on your property, your dogs wouldn't be of much use in deterring the intruder. Most likely they would try to lick the person to death rather than at least bark a warning. But then again, I bet you have dogs that yap rather than bark.


I own 2 German Shepherds.
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OP, your dog was contained in your yard, behind a fence.
The lady REACHED OVER THE FENCE to pet the dog despite the barking. It's on her.
You're fine, your dog is fine.

Very nice of you to help her bandage or clean up the bite. Hopefully the lady learned her lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Not all of us know how to handle your nasty dog, nor should be expected to. Control your animals. Keep them inside if necessary.


I shouldn't need to know how to handle your dog if I'm intruding on your property and I've been given a warning by your dog and I ignored it. Stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Not all of us know how to handle your nasty dog, nor should be expected to. Control your animals. Keep them inside if necessary.


np dog was in their own property. Notice to you if a dog is barking at you do not put your hand down to pet it! And you are the 'nasty' one!
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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.


I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.


So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.


Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.


Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.


Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

No matter how many times you reiterate something, it doesn't make it true. No amount of training is always 100% full proof, so reaching out to pet a dog that is growling and barking at you isn't smart.

You say that the person was non threatening. Well, the dog obviously felt threatened, growled and barked its warning but the neighbor still felt entitled to pet the dog. It's not the dog that needs training, it's the neighbor.


I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse. I understand that the old lady was at fault. Of course you shouldn't reach toward a barking, growling dog. I am only saying that I would not want to own a dog that barks and growls and bites people who don't mean any harm.


Please tell us how the dog knows she means no harm. The dog gave a warning, and she continued. If someone was walking towards you, and you said "stop" but they kept coming, what would you think?


The OP's dog clearly thought the lady meant harm. The OP's dog barked and growled and bit. I do not want to own a dog like OP's dog. I own well-trained, well-socialized dogs who understand the difference between people who mean no harm (like nice old ladies, the Amazon delivery guy, running and flailing toddlers, etc) and people who do mean harm.


Sometimes you get a dog with anxiety despite your best efforts to socialize them when they were young.
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Anonymous wrote:Any puncture wound caused by an animal, dog, cat whatever should be seen by a medical professional - ESPECIALLY in an immune compromised elderly person. Yes this means there will be a record that your dog bit the neighbor and you will have to provide his current rabies vaccination certificate - if he doesn’t have that, it is even more critical that she seek medical attention for the bite ASAP.

Believe me it’s better that you deal with the minor inconvenience of the health department asking for some paperwork than for you to face the lawsuit from grandma’s family when she loses her hand or arm to blood poisoning or dies of sepsis in a few weeks and no, I’m not kidding. ~healthcare professional who specializes in geriatric care


This is good advice. OP, your dog is aggressive and dangerous. You need to hear that


The dog is not aggressive, the neighbor is an idiot. Petting a dog inside the yard is stupid in genera as most otherwise friendly dogs are protective of their home and their personal space, but petting an already barking dog inside his yard is beyond stupid. The dog was putting her on notice not to come forward snd she even reached over the fence. I would be angry at the neighbor. I agree with the advice above that lady should see a doctor but i dont see how this is OP’s business, she cannot drag the lady to the doctor, lady should go on her own. OP can offer to drive her as a courtesy but the decision is up to the lady. I know people are litigious in this country but the lady reached out into w fenced yard to a dog that was clearly saying leave me alone
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She needs to get antibiotics if blood was drawn.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, your dog was contained in your yard, behind a fence.
The lady REACHED OVER THE FENCE to pet the dog despite the barking. It's on her.
You're fine, your dog is fine.

Very nice of you to help her bandage or clean up the bite. Hopefully the lady learned her lesson.



+ 1.

I learned this lesson in second grade when I reached through a fence to pet a dog who was in his own yard.

My dad said, "Now you know why I told you not to do that."
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, your dog was contained in your yard, behind a fence.
The lady REACHED OVER THE FENCE to pet the dog despite the barking. It's on her.
You're fine, your dog is fine.

Very nice of you to help her bandage or clean up the bite. Hopefully the lady learned her lesson.



+ 1.

I learned this lesson in second grade when I reached through a fence to pet a dog who was in his own yard.

My dad said, "Now you know why I told you not to do that."
Yep!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any puncture wound caused by an animal, dog, cat whatever should be seen by a medical professional - ESPECIALLY in an immune compromised elderly person. Yes this means there will be a record that your dog bit the neighbor and you will have to provide his current rabies vaccination certificate - if he doesn’t have that, it is even more critical that she seek medical attention for the bite ASAP.

Believe me it’s better that you deal with the minor inconvenience of the health department asking for some paperwork than for you to face the lawsuit from grandma’s family when she loses her hand or arm to blood poisoning or dies of sepsis in a few weeks and no, I’m not kidding. ~healthcare professional who specializes in geriatric care


This is good advice. OP, your dog is aggressive and dangerous. You need to hear that


The dog is not aggressive, the neighbor is an idiot. Petting a dog inside the yard is stupid in genera as most otherwise friendly dogs are protective of their home and their personal space, but petting an already barking dog inside his yard is beyond stupid. The dog was putting her on notice not to come forward snd she even reached over the fence. I would be angry at the neighbor. I agree with the advice above that lady should see a doctor but i dont see how this is OP’s business, she cannot drag the lady to the doctor, lady should go on her own. OP can offer to drive her as a courtesy but the decision is up to the lady. I know people are litigious in this country but the lady reached out into w fenced yard to a dog that was clearly saying leave me alone

I’m willing to bet that OP’s dog barks a lot more than she’ll admit and therefore the neighbor thought nothing of it. OP needs to train her dog.

Actually OP probably shouldn’t have a dog if she can’t train it.
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