dog bit neighbor who reached over fence to pet him

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

np here,

No it's not ok for a dog to bite an Amazon driver delivering packages, but at least the Amazon driver has a reason to be on your property. If you know you're going to get a delivery, then secure your dog. But there's no way to secure your dog if someone is going out of their way to pet your dog when they have no business doing so. Let's say that OP had put their dog inside their house but the neighbor opened the door to pet it and got bitten. Would you still blame the dog or OP and say that the dog should not bite a non threatening person?

I do blame OP for not socializing and/or training their dog appropriately. But plenty of dogs in this world are biters. I do not like them and would never own one, but I have no problem with other people owning one as long as they deal with their problem dogs correctly. They need to loudly announce that their dog is a biter whenever the situation warrants such caution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Experienced owner and rescuer here. I do not agree that your dog is aggressive. He was doing his job on your property.

This. She was idiotic to stick her hand over the fence.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

np here,

No it's not ok for a dog to bite an Amazon driver delivering packages, but at least the Amazon driver has a reason to be on your property. If you know you're going to get a delivery, then secure your dog. But there's no way to secure your dog if someone is going out of their way to pet your dog when they have no business doing so. Let's say that OP had put their dog inside their house but the neighbor opened the door to pet it and got bitten. Would you still blame the dog or OP and say that the dog should not bite a non threatening person?

I do blame OP for not socializing and/or training their dog appropriately. But plenty of dogs in this world are biters. I do not like them and would never own one, but I have no problem with other people owning one as long as they deal with their problem dogs correctly. They need to loudly announce that their dog is a biter whenever the situation warrants such caution.

They shouldn't have to announce anything when their dog is on their own property minding its own business.

It's a shame the neighbor got bit, I get it. But it's more the fault of the neighbor than OP and her dog. My neighbor had a Rottweiler that used to poke his head up over my wall. You would have had to offer me a fortune for me to stick my hand out and try and pet it, because DOGS BITE!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

np here,

No it's not ok for a dog to bite an Amazon driver delivering packages, but at least the Amazon driver has a reason to be on your property. If you know you're going to get a delivery, then secure your dog. But there's no way to secure your dog if someone is going out of their way to pet your dog when they have no business doing so. Let's say that OP had put their dog inside their house but the neighbor opened the door to pet it and got bitten. Would you still blame the dog or OP and say that the dog should not bite a non threatening person?

I do blame OP for not socializing and/or training their dog appropriately. But plenty of dogs in this world are biters. I do not like them and would never own one, but I have no problem with other people owning one as long as they deal with their problem dogs correctly. They need to loudly announce that their dog is a biter whenever the situation warrants such caution.

They shouldn't have to announce anything when their dog is on their own property minding its own business.

It's a shame the neighbor got bit, I get it. But it's more the fault of the neighbor than OP and her dog. My neighbor had a Rottweiler that used to poke his head up over my wall. You would have had to offer me a fortune for me to stick my hand out and try and pet it, because DOGS BITE!

Dp. The dog was barking and growling and OP was standing 10 feet away. I think OP has some responsibility, now that she knows her dog is a biter, to intervene in future situations where someone might get bit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

np here,

No it's not ok for a dog to bite an Amazon driver delivering packages, but at least the Amazon driver has a reason to be on your property. If you know you're going to get a delivery, then secure your dog. But there's no way to secure your dog if someone is going out of their way to pet your dog when they have no business doing so. Let's say that OP had put their dog inside their house but the neighbor opened the door to pet it and got bitten. Would you still blame the dog or OP and say that the dog should not bite a non threatening person?

I do blame OP for not socializing and/or training their dog appropriately. But plenty of dogs in this world are biters. I do not like them and would never own one, but I have no problem with other people owning one as long as they deal with their problem dogs correctly. They need to loudly announce that their dog is a biter whenever the situation warrants such caution.

They shouldn't have to announce anything when their dog is on their own property minding its own business.

It's a shame the neighbor got bit, I get it. But it's more the fault of the neighbor than OP and her dog. My neighbor had a Rottweiler that used to poke his head up over my wall. You would have had to offer me a fortune for me to stick my hand out and try and pet it, because DOGS BITE!

Dp. The dog was barking and growling and OP was standing 10 feet away. I think OP has some responsibility, now that she knows her dog is a biter, to intervene in future situations where someone might get bit.

She did intervene. She has a fence. That’s the intervention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:is your dog up to date on shots?

i didn't read all of the responses but can you answer this OP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

np here,

No it's not ok for a dog to bite an Amazon driver delivering packages, but at least the Amazon driver has a reason to be on your property. If you know you're going to get a delivery, then secure your dog. But there's no way to secure your dog if someone is going out of their way to pet your dog when they have no business doing so. Let's say that OP had put their dog inside their house but the neighbor opened the door to pet it and got bitten. Would you still blame the dog or OP and say that the dog should not bite a non threatening person?

I do blame OP for not socializing and/or training their dog appropriately. But plenty of dogs in this world are biters. I do not like them and would never own one, but I have no problem with other people owning one as long as they deal with their problem dogs correctly. They need to loudly announce that their dog is a biter whenever the situation warrants such caution.

They shouldn't have to announce anything when their dog is on their own property minding its own business.

It's a shame the neighbor got bit, I get it. But it's more the fault of the neighbor than OP and her dog. My neighbor had a Rottweiler that used to poke his head up over my wall. You would have had to offer me a fortune for me to stick my hand out and try and pet it, because DOGS BITE!

Dp. The dog was barking and growling and OP was standing 10 feet away. I think OP has some responsibility, now that she knows her dog is a biter, to intervene in future situations where someone might get bit.

The dog was barking and growling. That should have been warning enough for the neighbor not to lean over the wall and try to touch the dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.

Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

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OP, you need to get a taller fence that people can't pet your dog through. I'd put up a do not pet the dog sign immediately so that people know to stay away from your dog. Your dog is a biter. I've owned dogs (and have a chain link fence), and none have ever bit a neighbor petting them through the fence.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

Agree. Every doodle I’ve met has been nuts.

[Anonymous]

Neighbor may have the beginnings of dementia. She may not have learned her lesson and may do it again. You need a slightly taller fence so she cannot stick her arm over it, or a second short fence inside of the first one to prevent the dog from coming arm's length of the neighbor.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.

Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.

Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.

Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not okay for a dog to bite an unthreatening old lady. Barking at her, yes... biting, no. I say this as the owner of German Shepherds. I'm feeling very judgy towards these obnoxious high-strung doodle dogs.

I hear where you are coming from, and I am not a fan of the breeds, but reaching across a fence is dangerous. Dogs are super territorial. It's not a defect; it's their instinct.

So it's okay for dogs to bite the Amazon delivery driver when he comes onto someone's property to deliver a package? Because it is their instinct?

I will reiterate my opinion -- dogs should not bite a non-threatening person who comes onto their property. Period. Barking is fine, biting is not.

Barking is a warning. The old lady ignored it. Not a smart move.

Absolutely. The old lady is at fault. Nevertheless, I do not want to own a biting dog. Consider this -- a preschooler walks up to a dog and reaches out to pet it, and the dog bites the preschooler on the face. Sure, the dog owner is not at fault in the least, but do you want to be the owner of that dog? I don't.

You do not want to own a biting dog? I bet if your house was broken into you would be extremely happy if your dog bit the intruder and protected you.

All dogs will bite if pushed enough. It's comical to think that there are non biting dogs out there. The only way to guarantee that a dog will never bite is to remove its teeth.

Let me clarify. I do not want to own a dog that considers it necessary to bite a little old lady who is reaching over the fence to pet it. And, yes, most well trained and socialized dogs as know the difference between a threatening intruder and a non-threatening guest on your property.

As stated before, reaching over a dog is not a good idea. It's threatening to them. Something our trainer made a point of on day one. Add in the barking and growling and the woman was flat out clueless.

Plus the woman [/i]was not a guest on the property. [i] Why is that so hard to understand.

That being said OP should have

Stayed close and moved the dog away
Yelled NO!!! at the woman.

Don't set your dog up for failure. Now she needs a Beware of Dog sign, or a Dog on Property sign.