General complaint: people are THE WORST

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's just because it's Monday, maybe it's because I went to work at a coffee shop this morning and within five minutes a guy came down to sit next to me who was playing house music on an iPhone without headphones, and then a woman came to sit on my other side and joined an evangelical prayer circle on speaker phone and then paused to to ask me if I'd buy her a coffee because she forgot her wallet.

Hell, truly, is other people.

Feel free to explain how terrible people are here. I will validate ALL your complaints.

People hoping to strike it rich with a Karen moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see what the problem is. It's a coffee shop, not your personal work space.

It's also not a personal jam space for someone to blast their music or a personal meeting space for someone to have their prayer group conference call.

Working quietly on your computer in a coffee shop bothers exactly no one. If you purchase coffee or food from the shop, it even benefits the shop, which is why coffee shops provide seating and wifi for people to work.

Whereas playing your music loudly in a place that likely already has music on, or taking a conference call without headphones near multiple other people, and then asking one of those people to buy your coffee, is rude and inconvenient, likely bothers multiple customers as well as people who work there, and if you aren't even purchasing anything, has zero benefit to the business.

If you don't understand the difference between these activities, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sure the coffee shop's owners would prefer you bought coffee for the woman, which would increase their business. You just want to take their wifi and not give anything back. That's the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see what the problem is. It's a coffee shop, not your personal work space.

It's also not a personal jam space for someone to blast their music or a personal meeting space for someone to have their prayer group conference call.

Working quietly on your computer in a coffee shop bothers exactly no one. If you purchase coffee or food from the shop, it even benefits the shop, which is why coffee shops provide seating and wifi for people to work.

Whereas playing your music loudly in a place that likely already has music on, or taking a conference call without headphones near multiple other people, and then asking one of those people to buy your coffee, is rude and inconvenient, likely bothers multiple customers as well as people who work there, and if you aren't even purchasing anything, has zero benefit to the business.

If you don't understand the difference between these activities, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sure the coffee shop's owners would prefer you bought coffee for the woman, which would increase their business. You just want to take their wifi and not give anything back. That's the worst.

I bought coffee and food, used the wifi for the duration of consuming those items, and left.

Neither of these people bought anything. By the way, I don't think that woman forgot her wallet. I think she just wanted a free coffee.

I do not think the coffee shop wants me to buy coffee for this woman because it will just encourage her to continue to harass other paying customers on other occasions, while using their tables and wifi. She's a drag on their business and me buying her a single $4 coffee is not going to improve that situation. I think they'd much rather I stay and order myself a second cup (which I would have) than have her coming back every day and trying to get other people to buy her coffee.

But thanks for playing.

[Anonymous]

I think people have become more inconsiderate for sure OP. But humans have always been crappy towards each other. I agree people don’t use their manners as much. But the whole “we are a lot worse” as a society doesn’t ring true. Unless you were a white male, life kind of sucked until fairly recently in the US.

[Anonymous]

Today I hate slack and everyone who slacks me with a greeting veiled as a request.

“hi!” …
“How are you?” …
“how was your weekend” ...
“let me know if you see this slack” ..
“i have a quick question” ..
“are you there?” ..

NO I am not there! Send me an email and use your words, motherflicker!

I am a grouchy slack slacker and refuse to change my ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today I hate slack and everyone who slacks me with a greeting veiled as a request.

“hi!” …
“How are you?” …
“how was your weekend” ...
“let me know if you see this slack” ..
“i have a quick question” ..
“are you there?” ..

NO I am not there! Send me an email and use your words, motherflicker!

I am a grouchy slack slacker and refuse to change my ways.

Passive aggression in work communication is exhausting.

Also, I just generally hate it when people try to hide a request as something else. It's frustrating because I think a lot of people actually think they are being polite when they are doing this, like the correct way to ask someone to do something for you is to make a big fake show of interest in their weekend and then make the request, when OBVIOUSLY that is more rude because you are transparently trying to butter me up before asking me to do something, in the hopes this will make it harder to say no. But it's incredibly common. Just say, "Hi, how are you? Great, can I ask you for something?" and see how it goes.

[Anonymous]

Work at home OP. That is your solution.

A coffee shop is not an office, nor should be treated as such by others who are there enjoying music, prayer, their loud kids, other friends and strangers.

That be said, I get your point and notice how much friendlier and considerate people are out at places once I leave this area.

I hope your Tues. is more enjoyable.

[Anonymous]

This is why I stay home. The last time I went to my favorite coffee shop to do work, their bathrooms were shut down, but they didn’t post any notice or anything. I ordered my food and coffee, then found out, so had to walk a few blocks to another public restroom. Never again. My home is so much more comfortable, clean, and don’t have to deal with inconsiderate people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today I hate slack and everyone who slacks me with a greeting veiled as a request.

“hi!” …
“How are you?” …
“how was your weekend” ...
“let me know if you see this slack” ..
“i have a quick question” ..
“are you there?” ..

NO I am not there! Send me an email and use your words, motherflicker!

I am a grouchy slack slacker and refuse to change my ways.

Passive aggression in work communication is exhausting.

Also, I just generally hate it when people try to hide a request as something else. It's frustrating because I think a lot of people actually think they are being polite when they are doing this, like the correct way to ask someone to do something for you is to make a big fake show of interest in their weekend and then make the request, when OBVIOUSLY that is more rude because you are transparently trying to butter me up before asking me to do something, in the hopes this will make it harder to say no. But it's incredibly common. Just say, "Hi, how are you? Great, can I ask you for something?" and see how it goes.

THE only way to counter passive aggressive is to be completely blunt and rude.
Then dismissive.
I cut off communication with an older brother who raised passive aggressive to an art form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see what the problem is. It's a coffee shop, not your personal work space.

It's also not a personal jam space for someone to blast their music or a personal meeting space for someone to have their prayer group conference call.

Working quietly on your computer in a coffee shop bothers exactly no one. If you purchase coffee or food from the shop, it even benefits the shop, which is why coffee shops provide seating and wifi for people to work.

Whereas playing your music loudly in a place that likely already has music on, or taking a conference call without headphones near multiple other people, and then asking one of those people to buy your coffee, is rude and inconvenient, likely bothers multiple customers as well as people who work there, and if you aren't even purchasing anything, has zero benefit to the business.

If you don't understand the difference between these activities, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sure the coffee shop's owners would prefer you bought coffee for the woman, which would increase their business. You just want to take their wifi and not give anything back. That's the worst.

I bought coffee and food, used the wifi for the duration of consuming those items, and left.

Neither of these people bought anything. By the way, I don't think that woman forgot her wallet. I think she just wanted a free coffee.

I do not think the coffee shop wants me to buy coffee for this woman because it will just encourage her to continue to harass other paying customers on other occasions, while using their tables and wifi. She's a drag on their business and me buying her a single $4 coffee is not going to improve that situation. I think they'd much rather I stay and order myself a second cup (which I would have) than have her coming back every day and trying to get other people to buy her coffee.

But thanks for playing.

You may have only stayed long enough to consume your food and coffee, but your intent was (according to your original post) to use the coffee shop as your personal work space. Then, as it turns out, the people in the coffee shop wanted to use you. So if they're the WORST for trying to use you, then you are equally the WORST for trying to use them.

[Anonymous]

This is why I nake coffee and work at home unless I have to go into the office.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to complain about people in coffee shops who buy one cup and then sit there on their laptops for hours oblivious to other customers who are in need.

Can't count how many times I've had a tray with a sandwich/drink and have not been able to find a place to sit because laptop loungers are oh-so-busy doing work.

Those are the WORST.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see what the problem is. It's a coffee shop, not your personal work space.

It's also not a personal jam space for someone to blast their music or a personal meeting space for someone to have their prayer group conference call.

Working quietly on your computer in a coffee shop bothers exactly no one. If you purchase coffee or food from the shop, it even benefits the shop, which is why coffee shops provide seating and wifi for people to work.

Whereas playing your music loudly in a place that likely already has music on, or taking a conference call without headphones near multiple other people, and then asking one of those people to buy your coffee, is rude and inconvenient, likely bothers multiple customers as well as people who work there, and if you aren't even purchasing anything, has zero benefit to the business.

If you don't understand the difference between these activities, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sure the coffee shop's owners would prefer you bought coffee for the woman, which would increase their business. You just want to take their wifi and not give anything back. That's the worst.

I bought coffee and food, used the wifi for the duration of consuming those items, and left.

Neither of these people bought anything. By the way, I don't think that woman forgot her wallet. I think she just wanted a free coffee.

I do not think the coffee shop wants me to buy coffee for this woman because it will just encourage her to continue to harass other paying customers on other occasions, while using their tables and wifi. She's a drag on their business and me buying her a single $4 coffee is not going to improve that situation. I think they'd much rather I stay and order myself a second cup (which I would have) than have her coming back every day and trying to get other people to buy her coffee.

But thanks for playing.

You may have only stayed long enough to consume your food and coffee, but your intent was (according to your original post) to use the coffee shop as your personal work space. Then, as it turns out, the people in the coffee shop wanted to use you. So if they're the WORST for trying to use you, then you are equally the WORST for trying to use them.

A lot of coffee shops are set up for people to use them to work— they provide outlets, Wi-Fi, and will actively promote it a a work space. Starbucks has even talked about how what they really sell is real estate to people looking to work, study, or meet with friends, and the coffee is incidental.

There are no coffee shops that are set up or promote themselves as a place to play your music, or a place to meet with your prayer group. As a general rule, businesses don’t want people in them who can’t afford to pay.

Sorry, you are wrong. OP is fine, those people are not.

[Anonymous]

I think society started going to crap with the introduction of cell phones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has condoned, encouraged and supported our sense of self entitlement. We all deserve something. We are all owed something. We have regressed to toddlerhood where we think the world revolves around us. We are afraid to speak up because we are also entitled to lash out at anyone who challenges our entitlement.

It's due to bad parenting. I am anti spanking but I really wonder if we just haven't equipped parents with enough parenting skills. It takes A LOT to make some kids behave: discussion, rewards, taking things away, constant vigilance and catching bad behavior every time. Whereas those same kids would have shaped up instantly if they were spanked.

Also, school totally reinforces a lack of consequences. Kids can do anything in school and there are no consequences.

This. A generation was taught not to spank. This filled the gap will all sorts of parenting, some of it good.