APS Closing Nottingham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we expect support for school choice and vouchers now? Bc we can see that APS has no regard for those families who invest in having a strong local school and close ties to their immediate community.

LOL. APS has been tearing apart school communities for a long time now. You just never noticed (or didn’t care) because it didn’t affect you. Anyway, welcome to the club!

I noticed and I cared, but to be frank I have to earn an income and take a rest in between APS’s triennial efforts to destroy my neighborhood.

This is so absurd. Really. Cringe-level of hysteria. Your planning unit stays together so your immediate neighborhood is not "destroyed". You will join a new school community and it will really be fine. I have had to move schools. You might end up liking the new one better. I did. And if you don't like it better, your life will go on and all the people from your old school community will still be right there for you to complain with!

Did your school transition involve dumping hundreds of new daily car trips to your residential neighborhood? Just curious. All these new walkers going to/from are going to find themselves confronted by a massive surge of traffic on neighborhood streets. Streets on which multiple pedestrians have died, btw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we expect support for school choice and vouchers now? Bc we can see that APS has no regard for those families who invest in having a strong local school and close ties to their immediate community.

LOL. APS has been tearing apart school communities for a long time now. You just never noticed (or didn’t care) because it didn’t affect you. Anyway, welcome to the club!

I noticed and I cared, but to be frank I have to earn an income and take a rest in between APS’s triennial efforts to destroy my neighborhood.

OMG relax! You will have to go to the neighboring lily white rich kid school. OH NO. "destroying my neighborhood" you are ridiculous.

They should stop asking for public comments on school boundaries. No one WANTS to move around, and yes it's hard for the kids in bridge years (like 5th) but honestly, they have to do it sometimes. Arlington is a small county, I promise you know people at your neighboring schools and they are not all terrible and going to "destroy" your community.

Boy they say when you assume. Tell me how you’d feel if dozens of bus trips and hundreds of car trips were added to your residential neighborhood. I guess that’s just part of the “sacrifice” we need to make so your kids aren’t inconvenienced by a construction dumpster and your teachers have ready access to a “bike toilet” in their swing space, whatever that “must have” item is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

Interesting choice of words. What’s a few dead rich white people, am I right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

They turned McKinley into a school for 750 kids to get bused too (ATS). Somehow those people in that neighborhood, which yes is filled with SFHs, all survived.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

Interesting choice of words. What’s a few dead rich white people, am I right?

WUT? APS staff is rich white people? “THEY” is APS staff, not Nottingham parents.

[Anonymous]

Was the school board originally looking at moving ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley? I just remember the Nottingham/McKinley posts on this board at this time being so personal and attack-y, and the Nottingham folks seemed to really want the move to rest with McKinley because otherwise they might be under assault up there. At the time, Nottingham was complaining that nothing should be done to their school because their numbers were so over capacity. Maybe lots of kids wound up going private.

[Anonymous]

Worlds tiniest violin playing for Nottingham parents. The article in ArlNow has quotes from parents talking about their property values and it feeling like having to go to Mexico for school…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

Interesting choice of words. What’s a few dead rich white people, am I right?

WUT? APS staff is rich white people? “THEY” is APS staff, not Nottingham parents.

I am referring to the choice of words “drop dead”, which is exactly what happened to several individuals within sight of Nottingham due to design problems with that road.

But Carlin Springs, an arterial that intersects with other arterials, is busy, so us “rich white people” should just deal with a dangerous influx of cars on a deadly road not built to handle it. Do I got that right? Just want to understand the depth of the sacrifice we supposedly have no choice to make up here for the convenience of APS planning staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was the school board originally looking at moving ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley? I just remember the Nottingham/McKinley posts on this board at this time being so personal and attack-y, and the Nottingham folks seemed to really want the move to rest with McKinley because otherwise they might be under assault up there. At the time, Nottingham was complaining that nothing should be done to their school because their numbers were so over capacity. Maybe lots of kids wound up going private.

It was considered and abandoned when transportation concerns were identified. Concerns which have not been addressed in the latest proposal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was the school board originally looking at moving ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley? I just remember the Nottingham/McKinley posts on this board at this time being so personal and attack-y, and the Nottingham folks seemed to really want the move to rest with McKinley because otherwise they might be under assault up there. At the time, Nottingham was complaining that nothing should be done to their school because their numbers were so over capacity. Maybe lots of kids wound up going private.

It was considered and abandoned when transportation concerns were identified. Concerns which have not been addressed in the latest proposal.

McKinley building was always the option. It's got bigger capacity for a popular option school and much more central location in County.

Old school Nottingham and McKinley people have beef going back to when Nottingham PUs got transferred there when McKinley expansion was built and way too many kids got rezoned to McKinley. Tuckahoe, Nottingham, and McKinley people all bickered a lot over that one. Accusations of the Nottingham PTA "lying" etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there another elementary school that has had 3 pedestrian deaths within 2 blocks of tbe school in the last decade? Nottingham isn’t set up for the kind of traffic influx they would need. It can’t even handle the current traffic, where most people walk.

If it’s so dangerous for pedestrians maybe it makes sense to bus kids in and use it as swing space rather than have so many walkers.

If there was space for the buses needed to move 450-600 kids, I might agree with you. There is not in fact space for that amount of buses. Also this ignores that there will still be a significant added influx of cars due to extended day drop offs/pickups.

There is nothing more menacing than a series of distracted drivers racing the clock and treating your neighborhood like their highway/parking lot. The Tuckahoe neighborhood goes through this every few years with McConnell, and that is a well established school community. We’d be reinventing the wheel every year with the Airbnb approach APS has planned for Nottingham.

This is a bit more of a “sacrifice” to this community than which blue ribbon school we attend, and again, not one word about it in the APS analysis.

The biggest eye roll isn’t big enough. Lots of neighborhoods already have the traffic of which you speak. FFS, there are 3 schools within a few blocks of each other on Carlin Springs Rd all with the same start (during morning rush) and end times. If APS doesn’t give an eff about that, why should they fall over dead because a few buses will be “invading” your neighborhood. Also, it’s really galling that you liken your neighbors’ kids to a plague of locusts. Deal with it! Arlington is dense, crowded, full of traffic. Welcome!

Interesting choice of words. What’s a few dead rich white people, am I right?

WUT? APS staff is rich white people? “THEY” is APS staff, not Nottingham parents.

I am referring to the choice of words “drop dead”, which is exactly what happened to several individuals within sight of Nottingham due to design problems with that road.

But Carlin Springs, an arterial that intersects with other arterials, is busy, so us “rich white people” should just deal with a dangerous influx of cars on a deadly road not built to handle it. Do I got that right? Just want to understand the depth of the sacrifice we supposedly have no choice to make up here for the convenience of APS planning staff.

Have you seen the road in and out of Cardinal? Just checking.

Tiny violins is right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So rare that APS does an actual full school renovation. Abingdon a rare exception. They just put on additions like an ugly tumor house - looking at you Taylor and Swanson. FCPS is less innovative when it comes to design but at least they fully renovate buildings every 20-25 years.

Except for the auditorium and small gym, Swanson was largely gutted and renovated in the mid 90s. The weird addition was built later and triggered the historic designation, so the school can’t be demolished and rebuilt. It is an attractive building, just crowded.

The high schools are complete rebuilds. Same for the future Career Center.

Kenmore was a complete rebuild (some twenty years ago).