Montgomery Co. readies for impact of new statewide marijuana law

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Anonymous wrote: This is why it reminds me of the gun control debate. Both cases have a side saying I want what I want, regardless of who is hurt, and you can’t try to regulate it or restrict the most hazardous forms.

Sorry, guns kill, cannabis doesn't. That's where your comparison falls flat.

Once again, nobody said you had to like cannabis legalization. Just deal with it.

plenty of kids die from smoking weed, buying weed, selling weed,

guns don't kill either, the person pulling the trigger does.

How?

Not that poster, but 100% of drug related homicides in Montgomery County are marijuana-related.

What, specifically, is the relation of marijuana to these homicides?

Drug deals gone bad. Turf wars.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/08/100-year-sentence-upheld-in-killing-of-2-montgomery-co-teenagers/

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/18-year-old-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-will-serve-40-years-for-bethesda-stairwell-killing

https://wjla.com/news/local/sale-of-fake-weed-mayve-led-to-fatal-stabbing-in-downtown-silver-spring-prosecutors-say

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/05/silver-spring-man-sentenced-to-19-years-for-role-in-execution-style-marijuana-murder/

https://moco360.media/2017/07/26/three-arrested-for-killing-of-20-year-old-albert-einstein-high-alumnus/

https://moco360.media/2022/04/06/boyds-man-convicted-of-silver-spring-murder-tied-to-marijuana-deal/

Ah. So there will be less of that now. That's good.

Nope. People under 21 still want to use, and the price differential between legal, taxed weed and street weed is huge. There will always be an illegal market.

As is the safety of street weed, open borders and fentanyl. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

WTF? Can’t do anything? Would he have done something if the driver was drinking alcohol from a bottle?

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Anonymous wrote: This is why it reminds me of the gun control debate. Both cases have a side saying I want what I want, regardless of who is hurt, and you can’t try to regulate it or restrict the most hazardous forms.

Sorry, guns kill, cannabis doesn't. That's where your comparison falls flat.

Once again, nobody said you had to like cannabis legalization. Just deal with it.

plenty of kids die from smoking weed, buying weed, selling weed,

guns don't kill either, the person pulling the trigger does.

How?

Not that poster, but 100% of drug related homicides in Montgomery County are marijuana-related.

What, specifically, is the relation of marijuana to these homicides?

Drug deals gone bad. Turf wars.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/08/100-year-sentence-upheld-in-killing-of-2-montgomery-co-teenagers/

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/18-year-old-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-will-serve-40-years-for-bethesda-stairwell-killing

https://wjla.com/news/local/sale-of-fake-weed-mayve-led-to-fatal-stabbing-in-downtown-silver-spring-prosecutors-say

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/05/silver-spring-man-sentenced-to-19-years-for-role-in-execution-style-marijuana-murder/

https://moco360.media/2017/07/26/three-arrested-for-killing-of-20-year-old-albert-einstein-high-alumnus/

https://moco360.media/2022/04/06/boyds-man-convicted-of-silver-spring-murder-tied-to-marijuana-deal/

Ah. So there will be less of that now. That's good.

Nope. People under 21 still want to use, and the price differential between legal, taxed weed and street weed is huge. There will always be an illegal market.

The illegal market will now be smaller. That's good.

No, no it won't. Laughable that you believe that, I'm in hysterics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m mostly worried about people driving under the influence. I smell skunk weed regularly on the road as it is.

This.

Waiting for the day there's a fatality, or multiple fatalities, from a pot DUI. Sadly, it's only a matter of time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: This is why it reminds me of the gun control debate. Both cases have a side saying I want what I want, regardless of who is hurt, and you can’t try to regulate it or restrict the most hazardous forms.

Sorry, guns kill, cannabis doesn't. That's where your comparison falls flat.

Once again, nobody said you had to like cannabis legalization. Just deal with it.

plenty of kids die from smoking weed, buying weed, selling weed,

guns don't kill either, the person pulling the trigger does.

How?

Not that poster, but 100% of drug related homicides in Montgomery County are marijuana-related.

What, specifically, is the relation of marijuana to these homicides?

Drug deals gone bad. Turf wars.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/08/100-year-sentence-upheld-in-killing-of-2-montgomery-co-teenagers/

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/18-year-old-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-will-serve-40-years-for-bethesda-stairwell-killing

https://wjla.com/news/local/sale-of-fake-weed-mayve-led-to-fatal-stabbing-in-downtown-silver-spring-prosecutors-say

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/05/silver-spring-man-sentenced-to-19-years-for-role-in-execution-style-marijuana-murder/

https://moco360.media/2017/07/26/three-arrested-for-killing-of-20-year-old-albert-einstein-high-alumnus/

https://moco360.media/2022/04/06/boyds-man-convicted-of-silver-spring-murder-tied-to-marijuana-deal/

Ah. So there will be less of that now. That's good.

Nope. People under 21 still want to use, and the price differential between legal, taxed weed and street weed is huge. There will always be an illegal market.

The illegal market will now be smaller. That's good.

No, no it won't. Laughable that you believe that, I'm in hysterics.

The illegal market won't be smaller? Why? Will the many people who can now buy legally, for lower prices, instead prefer to buy illegally, at higher prices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

It should but the legislature passed a law banning police from conducting investigations based on smell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

They should be able to. They were able to until yesterday. The General Assembly passed a law with minutes left in the legislative session that prohibits them from doing so.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb1071

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

They should be able to. They were able to until yesterday. The General Assembly passed a law with minutes left in the legislative session that prohibits them from doing so.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb1071

Alternatively, police can pull drivers over for impaired driving, rather than for a car that (is claimed to) smell like a legal substance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

They should be able to. They were able to until yesterday. The General Assembly passed a law with minutes left in the legislative session that prohibits them from doing so.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb1071

Alternatively, police can pull drivers over for impaired driving, rather than for a car that (is claimed to) smell like a legal substance.

The smell of cannabis emanating from a moving vehicle used to be enough to pull someone over for impaired driving. Now police will have to rely more heavily on pretextual stops (busted taillight, headlights off, etc.). Which Jawando is trying to ban in Montgomery County. So there will be much less ability to actually intercept impaired drivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of legalizing weed is so that the idiots who smoke in their cars don’t go to jail. How else would a cop know you are in possession?
And when was the last time, in MC, that you have seen a cop pull anyone over?
Our current government is off their rockers to legalize without being to enforce when someone is driving high, the smell which never goes away is bothering people, and now more kids being able to access it. I am all for dumbing down society but what they should have legalized was gummies. Not skunk. At this point, I will not feel so bad smoking cigarettes in public. Why should I care anymore what effect it has on others.

One of the points of legalization was indeed to prevent cops from wiping their asses with the bill of rights by lying about smelling cannabis. Not to prevent police from enforcing driving while high.

Your stupidity isn't really doing much to sell your argument here.

I was following a bozo smoking weed today. A cop was driving close by and I slowed down enough so that cop would hopefully move into my lane. He did. The smoker immediately pulled over 2 lanes to turn at the next intersection. Cop did nothing. At the next light, I was next to the cop and asked if he could smell it. He said he could but couldn’t do anything about it. So guess what nasty person, cops out there are not following the bill of rights.

?? It's illegal for police to pull people over for the smell of weed.

DP. A cop smelling weed in a car should give probable cause for stopping and searching the car and we need a roadside test like a breathalyzer for weed use too.

They should be able to. They were able to until yesterday. The General Assembly passed a law with minutes left in the legislative session that prohibits them from doing so.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb1071

Alternatively, police can pull drivers over for impaired driving, rather than for a car that (is claimed to) smell like a legal substance.

The smell of cannabis emanating from a moving vehicle used to be enough to pull someone over for impaired driving. Now police will have to rely more heavily on pretextual stops (busted taillight, headlights off, etc.). Which Jawando is trying to ban in Montgomery County. So there will be much less ability to actually intercept impaired drivers.

Or the police can pull impaired drivers over for IMPAIRED DRIVING. Or even, here's an idea, for distracted driving. Most of the drivers I see at red lights are staring at their phones. Though, to be fair, many of the police officers I see in police cars at red lights are also staring at screens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waiting for the day there's a fatality, or multiple fatalities, from a pot DUI. Sadly, it's only a matter of time.

Do you think there's never been one before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of this is spot on. We continue to spiral downwards as a society beholden to special interests and corrupt politicians.

This is all total nonsense. But you know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is spot on. We continue to spiral downwards as a society beholden to special interests and corrupt politicians.

This is all total nonsense. But you know that.

Actually, I think that’s exactly right, and that opinion is independent of marijuana’s legal status. I’ve seen too many cases where politicians have acted against the public good but in ways that immensely benefit private industry and other special interests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Waiting for the day there's a fatality, or multiple fatalities, from a pot DUI. Sadly, it's only a matter of time.

Do you think there's never been one before?

do you think when we both simultaneously legalize cannabis AND hamstring police enforcement of DUI, that deaths won’t increase? what sane government does that?