Would you allow them to vaccinate your newborn on day one?

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Anonymous wrote:absolute'y not.

One.at.a.time over a few years

What is the benefit of doing that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only thing they do on day 1 is the k shot and yes I opted into that life saving option. I guess they also do hep b really early, but that is something you can pick up in a hospital or from a relative who doesn't know they are sick (no outward symptoms). Since it results in death again yes I opted in.

That’s not even a vaccination. But OP might not know that. My XH kept asking what shot our newborn got. It wasn’t a shot. It was a heel stick to test for genetic diseases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only thing they do on day 1 is the k shot and yes I opted into that life saving option. I guess they also do hep b really early, but that is something you can pick up in a hospital or from a relative who doesn't know they are sick (no outward symptoms). Since it results in death again yes I opted in.

That’s not even a vaccination. But OP might not know that. My XH kept asking what shot our newborn got. It wasn’t a shot. It was a heel stick to test for genetic diseases.

What were his concerns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only thing they do on day 1 is the k shot and yes I opted into that life saving option. I guess they also do hep b really early, but that is something you can pick up in a hospital or from a relative who doesn't know they are sick (no outward symptoms). Since it results in death again yes I opted in.

That’s not even a vaccination. But OP might not know that. My XH kept asking what shot our newborn got. It wasn’t a shot. It was a heel stick to test for genetic diseases.

That’s to test for PKU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older kids have all the shots. My 8 month old has zero. Public health and AAP lost all credibility.

+1 same here. no need anymore. do some research people.

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Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

So how are new borns at risk of coming into contact with blood or bodily fluids, assuming they are at home with caregivers who are HBV negative (not atypical situations like the nicu)?
I’m not against the vaccine, both of my kids got it at the hospital bc I wasn’t thinking of anything back then, but the timing doesn’t really make sense now that I know how it is transmitted.

In the hospital, at the pediatrician, caregiver with silent chronic Hep B … It’s a very contagious virus as far as viruses go. In DC we live in a global city and Hep B is very common. It’s a serious disease and I cannot think of good reason to delay the vaccine.

https://www.hepb.org/what-is-hepatitis-b/what-is-hepb/facts-and-figures/#:~:text=Two%20billion%20people%20have%20been,become%20newly%20infected%20each%20year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My older kids have all the shots. My 8 month old has zero. Public health and AAP lost all credibility.

+1 same here. no need anymore. do some research people.

Did infectious diseases go away because you dislike “public health”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heading says vaccines.

So besides Hep B, you ladies are getting the baby all the other vaccines?

nope

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

So how are new borns at risk of coming into contact with blood or bodily fluids, assuming they are at home with caregivers who are HBV negative (not atypical situations like the nicu)?
I’m not against the vaccine, both of my kids got it at the hospital bc I wasn’t thinking of anything back then, but the timing doesn’t really make sense now that I know how it is transmitted.

In the hospital, at the pediatrician, caregiver with silent chronic Hep B … It’s a very contagious virus as far as viruses go. In DC we live in a global city and Hep B is very common. It’s a serious disease and I cannot think of good reason to delay the vaccine.

https://www.hepb.org/what-is-hepatitis-b/what-is-hepb/facts-and-figures/#:~:text=Two%20billion%20people%20have%20been,become%20newly%20infected%20each%20year.

Contagious through bodily fluids?

[Anonymous]

Hep B is more of a danger (if mom has tested negative) in their tween/ teen years. I think the newborn early push is to protect the few in a sliver of the population that could be in an abusive type of situation. Baby is not going to get it from an infected caregiver bleeding nearby, it would be something worse or disastrous (everyone is bleeding).

[Anonymous]

From JAMA: "A unique feature of the HBV vaccination series, administration of the first dose at birth, has been desirable for 2 reasons: it substantially decreases the risk of vertical transmission in mothers who are positive for hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg), or whose HBsAg status is unknown,5 and it has also been associated with on-time receipt of the HBV series and other childhood vaccines.3,4 Infants living in public housing in Chicago who received the first dose of HBV vaccine soon after birth were more likely to complete the HBV vaccine series by 19 months of age, to receive the first DTP vaccine dose on time, and to complete the 4:3:1 series by age 19 months.3 The National Immunization Survey, a nationwide random-digit dialing telephone survey, confirmed that children who received the first dose of HBV vaccine at birth were more likely to have completed the series vs those who received the first HBV vaccine dose later.4"

Note, the only medical reason for giving it at birth is to prevent vertical transmission. The vaccine is mainly given at birth because, as a public health measure, it increases uptake of vaccines at the population level. Not because a baby absolutely needs the vaccine on the day of birth. On an individual level, if you're the kind of person who takes your kid to the doctor on schedule, the vaccine isn't needed at birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hep B is more of a danger (if mom has tested negative) in their tween/ teen years. I think the newborn early push is to protect the few in a sliver of the population that could be in an abusive type of situation. Baby is not going to get it from an infected caregiver bleeding nearby, it would be something worse or disastrous (everyone is bleeding).

That’s not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From JAMA: "A unique feature of the HBV vaccination series, administration of the first dose at birth, has been desirable for 2 reasons: it substantially decreases the risk of vertical transmission in mothers who are positive for hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg), or whose HBsAg status is unknown,5 and it has also been associated with on-time receipt of the HBV series and other childhood vaccines.3,4 Infants living in public housing in Chicago who received the first dose of HBV vaccine soon after birth were more likely to complete the HBV vaccine series by 19 months of age, to receive the first DTP vaccine dose on time, and to complete the 4:3:1 series by age 19 months.3 The National Immunization Survey, a nationwide random-digit dialing telephone survey, confirmed that children who received the first dose of HBV vaccine at birth were more likely to have completed the series vs those who received the first HBV vaccine dose later.4"

Note, the only medical reason for giving it at birth is to prevent vertical transmission. The vaccine is mainly given at birth because, as a public health measure, it increases uptake of vaccines at the population level. Not because a baby absolutely needs the vaccine on the day of birth. On an individual level, if you're the kind of person who takes your kid to the doctor on schedule, the vaccine isn't needed at birth.

I don’t know about you, but I wanted my kid to be protected from potentially deadly diseases as soon as possible. There’s no real reason to delay it.

[Anonymous]

depends which one! Not for flu or covid, but others sure if that's standard for day 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heading says vaccines.

So besides Hep B, you ladies are getting the baby all the other vaccines?

nope

What other vaccines? None of the other childhood vaccines will work at <1 week old. My kids get all their vaccines in the schedule recommended by their ped, who follows standard US guidelines, which included hep b at birth. The posters saying that the first hep b vaccine can be given a bit later aren’t wrong any more than the posters who come in to say they want their kids to follow their home country’s vaccine schedule. There are ranges for the effectiveness of childhood vaccines and as long as kids are getting all of them in the general period they’re supposed to I don’t think the timing is a huge deal. The US schedule is sensible and functional and vaccines don’t stress an infant’s immune system any more than breathing does but a week or a month here or there isn’t a hill to die on.