Would you allow them to vaccinate your newborn on day one?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

The most common way that children contract HepB is through transmission during childbirth and immunization on day 1 prevents it.

Of course it makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

Except you actually cannot guarantee who your child will come into contact with, and Hep B is relatively common. There’s no reason to delay.

You can't guarantee "who your child will come into contact with" for a few days after coming home with a newborn? Most ppl do try to limit exposure to other ppl (besides a few family members) for all the obvious reasons.

Believing you can prevent infectious disease through behavior instead of a vaccine is pretty foolhardy. You can’t actually predict what will happen or if a household member has Hep B silently. Since this is a vaccine that can be effective day 1, I cannot see the rationale for chosing a harder and less effective prevention method.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

The most common way that children contract HepB is through transmission during childbirth and immunization on day 1 prevents it.

Of course it makes sense.

But the expectant mother already knows if she has Hep B. It was part of the STD test I had at 12 weeks and 28 weeks and was told was standard.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

Except you actually cannot guarantee who your child will come into contact with, and Hep B is relatively common. There’s no reason to delay.

You can't guarantee "who your child will come into contact with" for a few days after coming home with a newborn? Most ppl do try to limit exposure to other ppl (besides a few family members) for all the obvious reasons.

Believing you can prevent infectious disease through behavior instead of a vaccine is pretty foolhardy. You can’t actually predict what will happen or if a household member has Hep B silently. Since this is a vaccine that can be effective day 1, I cannot see the rationale for chosing a harder and less effective prevention method.

Great! No one is stopping you from doing so.

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I did, on the advice of our ped, my OB, and the three nurse practitioners in my family. The risk of contracting Hep B may be low, but it's not zero, and it's very bad for babies. My kids got all their vaccines on schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

But what does this monitoring have to do with the minimal exposure to the antigen in a vaccine?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

But what does this monitoring have to do with the minimal exposure to the antigen in a vaccine?

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A baby’s immune system is ready to handle a vaccine at day 0 the same as it would day 6. There is no difference with the response. And it has nothing to do with “fragility.”

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

But what does this monitoring have to do with the minimal exposure to the antigen in a vaccine?

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You can keep saying "minimal antigen" but this is about the visceral emotional reaction and how ppl view a newborn baby. That's what OP is getting at. You will see that no one on the chain is saying not to get this vaccine, or to delay it for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

But what does this monitoring have to do with the minimal exposure to the antigen in a vaccine?

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You can keep saying "minimal antigen" but this is about the visceral emotional reaction and how ppl view a newborn baby. That's what OP is getting at. You will see that no one on the chain is saying not to get this vaccine, or to delay it for years.

I just wish they’d admit that. When they start making up “scientific reasons” to delay it just drives me batty. There is literally zero reason to delay (medically).

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that Hep B is so early. I don't think it makes sense. But we did it for both kids before leaving the hospital.

But what do you hate about it? What is the downside?

Now, go read about Hep B and what it does to children. Who contracts it? The unvaccinated.

I agree with the PP above that if you will be home with your child, and they are not getting very close exposure to large numbers of unknown people, they are not going to come into contact with it. I would be happy for them to get the vax before daycare - I think that makes sense.

Yes the unvaccinated can get it but you still need exposure. I know I don't have Hep B and neither does DH.

The downside is that they are more fragile on Day 1 than even a week later.

More fragile? Meaning what?

Seriously you need to ask what that means? This is the kind of disingenuous response that leads to ppl being skeptical of the push in the first place. Please.

Are you serious? I have a medical degree. And I’m asking you to define what “more fragile” means. Can you do that?

Babies that are just born are monitored every few hours by a nurse. That is not happening at Day 6 with a health newborn who has been discharged by the hospital. If there is no difference between Day 0 and Day 6 why do they even stay in the hospital overnight? Isn't it true that on Day 0 the nurses etc are still trying to make sure the baby is healthy, check for any issues, etc.

But what does this monitoring have to do with the minimal exposure to the antigen in a vaccine?

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You can keep saying "minimal antigen" but this is about the visceral emotional reaction and how ppl view a newborn baby. That's what OP is getting at. You will see that no one on the chain is saying not to get this vaccine, or to delay it for years.

I just wish they’d admit that. When they start making up “scientific reasons” to delay it just drives me batty. There is literally zero reason to delay (medically).

Right? Just admit that it bothers you viscerally, instead of making up anti-scientific nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:My older kids have all the shots. My 8 month old has zero. Public health and AAP lost all credibility.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:My older kids have all the shots. My 8 month old has zero. Public health and AAP lost all credibility.

So you don’t take your kids to a pediatrician anymore? Or you think they’re only wrong about vaccines, but right about other things?

Actually, you are correct.
Baby hasnt been since 2 weeks, 2.5 year old since 4 months and older kids since 2021.

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Anonymous wrote:My older kids have all the shots. My 8 month old has zero. Public health and AAP lost all credibility.

So you don’t take your kids to a pediatrician anymore? Or you think they’re only wrong about vaccines, but right about other things?

Actually, you are correct.
Baby hasnt been since 2 weeks, 2.5 year old since 4 months and older kids since 2021.

I’m gonna pray for your kids.