Would you allow them to vaccinate your newborn on day one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m smarter than blanket recommendations for the lowest common denominator.

I spoke with my pediatricians and OBs about this all before giving birth. I have 3 kids - who I gave birth to in 3 different states and 3 different hospitals. For all of them, they all got the antibiotic eye ointment in the hospital.

For all of them, all of these various doctors always agreed I did not have to do Hep B in the hospital since I was staying home with the baby and no one in our household who would interact with the baby had Hep B. I think I delayed it until each was 1 month old. It would probably be fine to do it in the hospital too. But that’s really a lowest common denominator recommendation so you don’t lose people who never return to the doctor or if you don’t know the Hep B status of who the baby will be around.

My kids are fully vaccinated on everything - and I didn’t do anything else on a different schedule.

Yep, I just did Hep B later. The reason they give the Hep B vaccine on the day of birth is to prevent transmission from Hep B infected mothers to infants, which happens during childbirth. Since there was no chance I had Hep B myself, I wasn't worried about my infant getting it the day she was born.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

From the HHS:

Hepatitis B is transmitted when blood, semen, or another body fluid from a person infected with HBV enters the body of someone who is not infected. This can happen through sexual contact; sharing needles, syringes, or other drug-injection equipment; or from mother to baby at birth.

Sexual contact, needles, and childbirth are not casual contact.

[Anonymous]

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m smarter than blanket recommendations for the lowest common denominator.

I spoke with my pediatricians and OBs about this all before giving birth. I have 3 kids - who I gave birth to in 3 different states and 3 different hospitals. For all of them, they all got the antibiotic eye ointment in the hospital.

For all of them, all of these various doctors always agreed I did not have to do Hep B in the hospital since I was staying home with the baby and no one in our household who would interact with the baby had Hep B. I think I delayed it until each was 1 month old. It would probably be fine to do it in the hospital too. But that’s really a lowest common denominator recommendation so you don’t lose people who never return to the doctor or if you don’t know the Hep B status of who the baby will be around.

My kids are fully vaccinated on everything - and I didn’t do anything else on a different schedule.

What makes delaying the vaccine by one month smarter? What is the benefit in doing so?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

This forum is the wrong place to look for answers. Many of the people here will drop everything they're doing to yell at anyone who shares your concerns.

I'd suggest you take some time to read info at the National Vaccine Information Center nvic.org or you can call them with questions.

I'm the PP immediately above you. We have a lot of doctor friends and I talked to all of our doctor friends and asked what they do with their own kids (spoiler alert - they all fully vaccinate them).

They would get investigated if they told you anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

This forum is the wrong place to look for answers. Many of the people here will drop everything they're doing to yell at anyone who shares your concerns.

I'd suggest you take some time to read info at the National Vaccine Information Center nvic.org or you can call them with questions.

I'm the PP immediately above you. We have a lot of doctor friends and I talked to all of our doctor friends and asked what they do with their own kids (spoiler alert - they all fully vaccinate them).

They would get investigated if they told you anything else.

Oh sweet Jesus here come the tin foil hats

[Anonymous]

absolute'y not.

One.at.a.time over a few years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

So how are new borns at risk of coming into contact with blood or bodily fluids, assuming they are at home with caregivers who are HBV negative (not atypical situations like the nicu)?
I’m not against the vaccine, both of my kids got it at the hospital bc I wasn’t thinking of anything back then, but the timing doesn’t really make sense now that I know how it is transmitted.

[Anonymous]

Heading says vaccines.

So besides Hep B, you ladies are getting the baby all the other vaccines?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

This forum is the wrong place to look for answers. Many of the people here will drop everything they're doing to yell at anyone who shares your concerns.

I'd suggest you take some time to read info at the National Vaccine Information Center nvic.org or you can call them with questions.

I'm the PP immediately above you. We have a lot of doctor friends and I talked to all of our doctor friends and asked what they do with their own kids (spoiler alert - they all fully vaccinate them).

They would get investigated if they told you anything else.

Oh sweet Jesus here come the tin foil hats

Surely you understand our current political climate. Hopefully someday our highly educated physicians will again be allowed (and even encouraged!) to think outside the box.

Real science demands the continued questioning of practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

This forum is the wrong place to look for answers. Many of the people here will drop everything they're doing to yell at anyone who shares your concerns.

I'd suggest you take some time to read info at the National Vaccine Information Center nvic.org or you can call them with questions.

I'm the PP immediately above you. We have a lot of doctor friends and I talked to all of our doctor friends and asked what they do with their own kids (spoiler alert - they all fully vaccinate them).

This thread isn't about whether or not to "fully vaccinate" ie whether to get it or not. Just about exact timing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

So how are new borns at risk of coming into contact with blood or bodily fluids, assuming they are at home with caregivers who are HBV negative (not atypical situations like the nicu)?
I’m not against the vaccine, both of my kids got it at the hospital bc I wasn’t thinking of anything back then, but the timing doesn’t really make sense now that I know how it is transmitted.

It can, and often is, transmitted during childbirth. Vaccination immediately after childbirth prevents this transmission. Of all the vaccination schedules, this is the one that has been shown to save lives. It is mind boggling to me that people vaccinate their kids against things like polio which are vanishingly rare, and then the ones they choose to have a fit about are HBV and HPV, diseases that are common killers.

The doctor in the hospital has no way to know what your exposure is, and whether you have been exposed to the virus since the last time you were tested. So, there is a blanket recommendation to vaccinate within 12 hours. Doing so is perfectly safe for all babies, and life saving for some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes of course. I'm there. I'm going to do it anyway. I don't want to have to pack up and come back.

Umm. Were you not planning to go to the pediatrician soon after? Fine to get it at hospital but this reasoning makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

This forum is the wrong place to look for answers. Many of the people here will drop everything they're doing to yell at anyone who shares your concerns.

I'd suggest you take some time to read info at the National Vaccine Information Center nvic.org or you can call them with questions.

I'm the PP immediately above you. We have a lot of doctor friends and I talked to all of our doctor friends and asked what they do with their own kids (spoiler alert - they all fully vaccinate them).

This thread isn't about whether or not to "fully vaccinate" ie whether to get it or not. Just about exact timing.

For the month during which your child was most likely to catch this potentially deadly infection they were not vaccinated. You can't claim that's full vaccination. It's like getting the Typhoid vaccine on the way home from your trip to Africa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How would new born babies contract Hep B though, if it is blood borne?

Hep B is MUCH more contagious than other viruses such as HIV. It is spread through even casual contact with blood and bodily fluids. Many carriers have no symptoms. Up to 1/3 of the global population has been infected.

So how are new borns at risk of coming into contact with blood or bodily fluids, assuming they are at home with caregivers who are HBV negative (not atypical situations like the nicu)?
I’m not against the vaccine, both of my kids got it at the hospital bc I wasn’t thinking of anything back then, but the timing doesn’t really make sense now that I know how it is transmitted.

Ok so you know that terrible heel stick that newborns get? What happens when your HepB+ nurse (again 1/3 of the population) messes up because she’s been over scheduled and understaffed for five years and accidentally sticks herself and exposes your unvaccinated baby?

How hard are you going to beg that pediatrician to vaccinate the newborn you willingly endangered?