Rose Hanbury and Prince William

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imho William and Harry saw effect of infidelity on their parents and on themselves as children and long term, they'll make conscious efforts to avoid repeating it. No?

Imho Charles saw effect of infidelity on his parents and on himself as a child and will definitely make a conscious effort to avoid repeating it. No?

Yes but his parents stayed together and lived long lives. Losing Diana at a young age, made her kids more sensitive towards her plights and blind to her flaws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that the rumors about Kate's family's financial woes may be leaked/stirred up by the family to remind Kate and her family that without the BRF, they are nobodies? Because that has crossed my mind when I see these headlines about them approaching bankruptcy and leaning on Kate and William to help.

This is also tied up with them getting Royal Lodge (thus kicking out Andrew) -- the Middletons are supposed to come live with them there, ostensibly to help take care of the kids while Kate and William take on more extensive duties as the crown prince and princess now that Charles has ascended. But it also puts the Middletons living on Firm property and supported by the BRF.

They’re not rumors. They literally sold their business after it entered bankruptcy. I think her parents were wealthy at one point but it has been a bit smoke and mirrors for quite awhile.

They don't need the BRF to be well off. If Kate leaves, she will be rich. Poppa also married a very very wealthy man. Their kids are set and so are they. They're not going to be homeless because their business went under.

What about that poor Middleton brother?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I do think Kate cares about William having an affair, she's not going to do a thing about it. And he and his family know it. This is the woman who chased him and waited for him to get serious with her for years. By all accounts, her only ambition in life was to marry him. She stayed the course and succeeded. She's not going to run to the media, or confront Charles, to leverage anything. That's laughable if you consider for a second who she is and what she's done in her life. She isn't some modern, independent woman. She is literally the commoner who had very little going for herself until she married a prince and is all too happy to life that lifestyle--just like in many of the older Disney movies. That's in large part why William chose her. Kate isn't going anywhere, she will always be discreet and carry on as if William is the most loyal husband ever.

She’s done a lot about it. Threatened divorce? No. But she’s flexed her muscle about the Hanbury situation plenty. It’s just too subtle for most of us Americans to understand.

I’m really interested in this. Can you say more about how she’s flexed her muscle?

+1. Would love to hear about how she allegedly has "done a lot about it." And if it's so subtle, how can you possibly know it ever happened? I know people love to paint her as this strong woman who isn't willing to put up with this, but all of the objectively known facts about her suggest otherwise. It's not meant as a dig against her--there are plenty of women who put up with worse behavior from their significant others without any of the benefits Kate has. I don't think less of her for staying put, but I also don't understand why people are so quick to assert that she's "flexed her muscle" when she's not the one with the power in that relationship and has never demonstrated any sort of backbone when it comes to William or his family. She was all too willing to do whatever it took to be a part of that family--yet we're supposed to believe that NOW she's trying to exert power to stand up for herself? Not buying it.

Dynamics have changed. They need her more than she needs them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that the rumors about Kate's family's financial woes may be leaked/stirred up by the family to remind Kate and her family that without the BRF, they are nobodies? Because that has crossed my mind when I see these headlines about them approaching bankruptcy and leaning on Kate and William to help.

This is also tied up with them getting Royal Lodge (thus kicking out Andrew) -- the Middletons are supposed to come live with them there, ostensibly to help take care of the kids while Kate and William take on more extensive duties as the crown prince and princess now that Charles has ascended. But it also puts the Middletons living on Firm property and supported by the BRF.

They’re not rumors. They literally sold their business after it entered bankruptcy. I think her parents were wealthy at one point but it has been a bit smoke and mirrors for quite awhile.

They don't need the BRF to be well off. If Kate leaves, she will be rich. Poppa also married a very very wealthy man. Their kids are set and so are they. They're not going to be homeless because their business went under.

What about that poor Middleton brother?

He'll be fine. He had a wife who works consistently and they don't want children. They stay out of the spotlight and don't seem extravagant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I do think Kate cares about William having an affair, she's not going to do a thing about it. And he and his family know it. This is the woman who chased him and waited for him to get serious with her for years. By all accounts, her only ambition in life was to marry him. She stayed the course and succeeded. She's not going to run to the media, or confront Charles, to leverage anything. That's laughable if you consider for a second who she is and what she's done in her life. She isn't some modern, independent woman. She is literally the commoner who had very little going for herself until she married a prince and is all too happy to life that lifestyle--just like in many of the older Disney movies. That's in large part why William chose her. Kate isn't going anywhere, she will always be discreet and carry on as if William is the most loyal husband ever.

She’s done a lot about it. Threatened divorce? No. But she’s flexed her muscle about the Hanbury situation plenty. It’s just too subtle for most of us Americans to understand.

I’m really interested in this. Can you say more about how she’s flexed her muscle?

+1. Would love to hear about how she allegedly has "done a lot about it." And if it's so subtle, how can you possibly know it ever happened? I know people love to paint her as this strong woman who isn't willing to put up with this, but all of the objectively known facts about her suggest otherwise. It's not meant as a dig against her--there are plenty of women who put up with worse behavior from their significant others without any of the benefits Kate has. I don't think less of her for staying put, but I also don't understand why people are so quick to assert that she's "flexed her muscle" when she's not the one with the power in that relationship and has never demonstrated any sort of backbone when it comes to William or his family. She was all too willing to do whatever it took to be a part of that family--yet we're supposed to believe that NOW she's trying to exert power to stand up for herself? Not buying it.

Dynamics have changed. They need her more than she needs them.

+1. She is the future of the BRF. The Queen recognized this and mentored her.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about them needing her more than she needs them. At the end of the day she is still a commoner, if that marriage ends in divorce the UK people will not side with her. They might hate William but they won’t love Kate..she pretty much stuck in this marriage no matter what he does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that the rumors about Kate's family's financial woes may be leaked/stirred up by the family to remind Kate and her family that without the BRF, they are nobodies? Because that has crossed my mind when I see these headlines about them approaching bankruptcy and leaning on Kate and William to help.

This is also tied up with them getting Royal Lodge (thus kicking out Andrew) -- the Middletons are supposed to come live with them there, ostensibly to help take care of the kids while Kate and William take on more extensive duties as the crown prince and princess now that Charles has ascended. But it also puts the Middletons living on Firm property and supported by the BRF.

They’re not rumors. They literally sold their business after it entered bankruptcy. I think her parents were wealthy at one point but it has been a bit smoke and mirrors for quite awhile.

They don't need the BRF to be well off. If Kate leaves, she will be rich. Poppa also married a very very wealthy man. Their kids are set and so are they. They're not going to be homeless because their business went under.

What about that poor Middleton brother?

I think he lives next door to Rob Kardashian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about them needing her more than she needs them. At the end of the day she is still a commoner, if that marriage ends in divorce the UK people will not side with her. They might hate William but they won’t love Kate..she pretty much stuck in this marriage no matter what he does.

If she gives a tearful interview about him cheating, the public will turn on William without thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I do think Kate cares about William having an affair, she's not going to do a thing about it. And he and his family know it. This is the woman who chased him and waited for him to get serious with her for years. By all accounts, her only ambition in life was to marry him. She stayed the course and succeeded. She's not going to run to the media, or confront Charles, to leverage anything. That's laughable if you consider for a second who she is and what she's done in her life. She isn't some modern, independent woman. She is literally the commoner who had very little going for herself until she married a prince and is all too happy to life that lifestyle--just like in many of the older Disney movies. That's in large part why William chose her. Kate isn't going anywhere, she will always be discreet and carry on as if William is the most loyal husband ever.

She’s done a lot about it. Threatened divorce? No. But she’s flexed her muscle about the Hanbury situation plenty. It’s just too subtle for most of us Americans to understand.

I’m really interested in this. Can you say more about how she’s flexed her muscle?

+1. Would love to hear about how she allegedly has "done a lot about it." And if it's so subtle, how can you possibly know it ever happened? I know people love to paint her as this strong woman who isn't willing to put up with this, but all of the objectively known facts about her suggest otherwise. It's not meant as a dig against her--there are plenty of women who put up with worse behavior from their significant others without any of the benefits Kate has. I don't think less of her for staying put, but I also don't understand why people are so quick to assert that she's "flexed her muscle" when she's not the one with the power in that relationship and has never demonstrated any sort of backbone when it comes to William or his family. She was all too willing to do whatever it took to be a part of that family--yet we're supposed to believe that NOW she's trying to exert power to stand up for herself? Not buying it.

Dynamics have changed. They need her more than she needs them.

+1. She is the future of the BRF. The Queen recognized this and mentored her.

The Queen took an interest in her only because the Queen recognized how important it was to have a stable, private person in that role, in contrast to what happened with Charles and Diana. Kate is important to the future of BRF because she'll say quiet and play her part to help them avoid a public scandal, not because she is this dynamic, powerful person that can somehow sway the family or save the monarchy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about them needing her more than she needs them. At the end of the day she is still a commoner, if that marriage ends in divorce the UK people will not side with her. They might hate William but they won’t love Kate..she pretty much stuck in this marriage no matter what he does.

If she gives a tearful interview about him cheating, the public will turn on William without thinking.

She'd never do that. And they know it. We can talk about what she "could" do all day long but it's just talk. She isn't going to do anything. Why would she? She has exactly the life she wants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I do think Kate cares about William having an affair, she's not going to do a thing about it. And he and his family know it. This is the woman who chased him and waited for him to get serious with her for years. By all accounts, her only ambition in life was to marry him. She stayed the course and succeeded. She's not going to run to the media, or confront Charles, to leverage anything. That's laughable if you consider for a second who she is and what she's done in her life. She isn't some modern, independent woman. She is literally the commoner who had very little going for herself until she married a prince and is all too happy to life that lifestyle--just like in many of the older Disney movies. That's in large part why William chose her. Kate isn't going anywhere, she will always be discreet and carry on as if William is the most loyal husband ever.

She’s done a lot about it. Threatened divorce? No. But she’s flexed her muscle about the Hanbury situation plenty. It’s just too subtle for most of us Americans to understand.

I’m really interested in this. Can you say more about how she’s flexed her muscle?

+1. Would love to hear about how she allegedly has "done a lot about it." And if it's so subtle, how can you possibly know it ever happened? I know people love to paint her as this strong woman who isn't willing to put up with this, but all of the objectively known facts about her suggest otherwise. It's not meant as a dig against her--there are plenty of women who put up with worse behavior from their significant others without any of the benefits Kate has. I don't think less of her for staying put, but I also don't understand why people are so quick to assert that she's "flexed her muscle" when she's not the one with the power in that relationship and has never demonstrated any sort of backbone when it comes to William or his family. She was all too willing to do whatever it took to be a part of that family--yet we're supposed to believe that NOW she's trying to exert power to stand up for herself? Not buying it.

Dynamics have changed. They need her more than she needs them.

+1. She is the future of the BRF. The Queen recognized this and mentored her.

The Queen took an interest in her only because the Queen recognized how important it was to have a stable, private person in that role, in contrast to what happened with Charles and Diana. Kate is important to the future of BRF because she'll say quiet and play her part to help them avoid a public scandal, not because she is this dynamic, powerful person that can somehow sway the family or save the monarchy.

The Queen took an interest in her because she's a maternal figure, not controversial but able to be a queen to the entire kingdom through her unoffending and accommodating nature. After 7 decades of a queen, especially one who has been a grandmother to the kingdom for the last decades, the Queen saw the value of a maternal figure on the throne, one who could love and be loved by the people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I do think Kate cares about William having an affair, she's not going to do a thing about it. And he and his family know it. This is the woman who chased him and waited for him to get serious with her for years. By all accounts, her only ambition in life was to marry him. She stayed the course and succeeded. She's not going to run to the media, or confront Charles, to leverage anything. That's laughable if you consider for a second who she is and what she's done in her life. She isn't some modern, independent woman. She is literally the commoner who had very little going for herself until she married a prince and is all too happy to life that lifestyle--just like in many of the older Disney movies. That's in large part why William chose her. Kate isn't going anywhere, she will always be discreet and carry on as if William is the most loyal husband ever.

She’s done a lot about it. Threatened divorce? No. But she’s flexed her muscle about the Hanbury situation plenty. It’s just too subtle for most of us Americans to understand.

I’m really interested in this. Can you say more about how she’s flexed her muscle?

+1. Would love to hear about how she allegedly has "done a lot about it." And if it's so subtle, how can you possibly know it ever happened? I know people love to paint her as this strong woman who isn't willing to put up with this, but all of the objectively known facts about her suggest otherwise. It's not meant as a dig against her--there are plenty of women who put up with worse behavior from their significant others without any of the benefits Kate has. I don't think less of her for staying put, but I also don't understand why people are so quick to assert that she's "flexed her muscle" when she's not the one with the power in that relationship and has never demonstrated any sort of backbone when it comes to William or his family. She was all too willing to do whatever it took to be a part of that family--yet we're supposed to believe that NOW she's trying to exert power to stand up for herself? Not buying it.

Dynamics have changed. They need her more than she needs them.

I agree with this but she also still needs them.

A PP said that if Kate divorced William amid infidelity allegations, it would be the end of the royal family. I think that's true. The family is not going to survive going through this TWICE in two consecutive generations.

But what this overlooks is that Kate is extremely invested in the royal family as an institution. Unlike Harry or Meghan, Kate can't envision a future for her children where they are not the future King and his heirs. Anything short of that is a return to "commoner" status and she has no interest in that. Marrying William has not only brought her wealth and privilege, but also importance. It's a job. It's a job for her kids. It gives their lives meaning and shape and marks them as special in ways that simply being wealthy cannot.

She will not divorce him knowing that it will deprive her children of that. She loves that $hit. It's why she targeted William to begin with and worked so hard to get him, putting up with a lot of horrible behavior on his part. Her family was already well off before that, she could have married some rich classmate and been set up for life, even marrying into titles and castles. She didn't want to be idle rich. She wanted to be the Queen of England. It's worth way more to her than anything else.

They need her, she needs them. They will find a way to work it out.

[Anonymous]

Rose Hanbury.

Her name sounds like a brand of bed linens and tea cups and saucers.

She should start her own brand of house goods.

It sounds like Charlotte Tilbury. LoL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rose Hanbury.

Her name sounds like a brand of bed linens and tea cups and saucers.

She should start her own brand of house goods.

It sounds like Charlotte Tilbury. LoL.

She already has a line of household goods. Check out her Houghton Hall Instagram.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s all sorts of sources claiming Kate is angry about Rose’s presence at the coronation.

People who think Kate and William are happily and faithfully married are definitely extremely naive.

I don't know about the affair, but they haven't looked truly happy together since Louis. I wonder what happened.

He has the heir and the male spare. Now he can concentrate on his side piece

He didn’t need a male spare. The Queen said if their fist kid was a girl, she’d be Queen.

The queen is dead, long live the king. The question is just how much of a chauvinist is Charles

You think Charles would revoke Charlotte's position to the throne? Not a chance. He doesn't even have the guts (so far) to respect the duchy of Sussex residents enough to return their title to someone who cares. Charles is soft, soft, soft.