How many hours a week do you actually work?

[Anonymous]

I work like 2 days a week and make 55 k. I could work more but I'm fine with it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see patients (who frequently don’t show - I’m in public health). When they don’t show I don’t have much to do. On a busy week? Maybe 15- 20 hrs. Slow week maybe 5 or 10. I make 175K.

Nurse Practitioner?

Dentist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy!"

[Anonymous]

Federal employee
Remote Non-supervisory GS-14
$145k

It varies but during busy season I would say about 30 hours per week.

During quieter times, it's closer to 20 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40. Don't understand how some of you get paychecks without doing the work. I also WFH and put my FULL workday in...

What do you mean?

I'm doing the work but my work has a lot of red tape so a lot of times I'm waiting for things to be submitted, reviewed, and approved before I can do my part.
I've been in my job for a while (over 10 years), so I've streamlined things and I am very efficient. A full day's worth of work takes me a couple hours.
I could do extra work but that wouldn't make sense as it wouldn't increase my compensation and I would become the go to person for no other reason than being competent.

The reality isn't that "no work is being done" but that my work is very easy for me. Others take all week to do what I could in one full 6-8 hour day. I basically pace myself and stretch my work out to match others output.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy!"

Sounds like things need to change. Perhaps AI will help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like to know what kind of jobs people are working that provide $200-$400k for part-time hours.

This. I make $200K but I'm putting in 40-45 hours a week.

[Anonymous]

Not believing half of these responses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy!"

Sounds like things need to change. Perhaps AI will help.

How does AI solve the problem of grading? Do you want your child's high school papers to be reviewed by AI, rather than the person teaching them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy!"

Sounds like things need to change. Perhaps AI will help.

How does AI solve the problem of grading? Do you want your child's high school papers to be reviewed by AI, rather than the person teaching them?

Yes. Because people would be more interested in becoming teachers. I can imagine it’s harder to attract quality teachers due to the long hours and low wages. AI could reduce the hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

It’s not you. It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so. If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade. Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM. I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done.

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy!"

Sounds like things need to change. Perhaps AI will help.

How does AI solve the problem of grading? Do you want your child's high school papers to be reviewed by AI, rather than the person teaching them?

Yes. Because people would be more interested in becoming teachers. I can imagine it’s harder to attract quality teachers due to the long hours and low wages. AI could reduce the hours.

I don't think you will get a lot of teachers agreeing that their job can be done by AI. I'm not a teacher, and while you can obviously automate a lot of learning, I just don't think that this is one of them. Maybe some aspects of teaching, but not this.

As a parent, is that what you want for your child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these teachers work so much. WHY? Why is it necessary to work so many hours? Something is wrong with this model. Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work. My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.

What does this mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40. Don't understand how some of you get paychecks without doing the work. I also WFH and put my FULL workday in...

What do you mean?

I'm doing the work but my work has a lot of red tape so a lot of times I'm waiting for things to be submitted, reviewed, and approved before I can do my part.
I've been in my job for a while (over 10 years), so I've streamlined things and I am very efficient. A full day's worth of work takes me a couple hours.
I could do extra work but that wouldn't make sense as it wouldn't increase my compensation and I would become the go to person for no other reason than being competent.

The reality isn't that "no work is being done" but that my work is very easy for me. Others take all week to do what I could in one full 6-8 hour day. I basically pace myself and stretch my work out to match others output.

Same. I can do things fast or slow. Something there just isnt "more". That why management is good since pure contributor roles there is often always more work to do. But its also less stable as you have to do the stuff you do right and meat goals etc.