Gilmore Girls? What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has a lot of smart pop culture references. You might not be intelligent enough to get it, which is find. Enjoy what you like, no one cares either way

So defensive…you clearly care.

I can assure you, no one cares about you or your thoughts, that's why you dont have any friends to run this past and had to post on anonymous forum where people would be subjected to your ramblings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has a lot of smart pop culture references. You might not be intelligent enough to get it, which is find. Enjoy what you like, no one cares either way

So defensive…you clearly care.

I can assure you, no one cares about you or your thoughts, that's why you dont have any friends to run this past and had to post on anonymous forum where people would be subjected to your ramblings

NP
The lady doth protest too much

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has a lot of smart pop culture references. You might not be intelligent enough to get it, which is find. Enjoy what you like, no one cares either way

So defensive…you clearly care.

I can assure you, no one cares about you or your thoughts, that's why you dont have any friends to run this past and had to post on anonymous forum where people would be subjected to your ramblings

NP
The lady doth protest too much

Guess I hit a nerve, lol.

[Anonymous]

^and I'm the PP who said no one cares about irrelevant DCUMers thoughts. Truth hurts

[Anonymous]

Dont like it. I liked Felicity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has a lot of smart pop culture references. You might not be intelligent enough to get it, which is find. Enjoy what you like, no one cares either way

So defensive…you clearly care.

I can assure you, no one cares about you or your thoughts, that's why you dont have any friends to run this past and had to post on anonymous forum where people would be subjected to your ramblings

NP
The lady doth protest too much

Guess I hit a nerve, lol.

Darn right.
All you left out was wishing a pox on their house.

[Anonymous]

I think for a lot of us it's nostalgic - not sure I would get into it if I watched it for the first time now. It's a comfort show for me now!

My sister is the same age Rory - I remember judging my mother for crying at Rory's graduation from Chilton and not my sister's high school graduation (to be fair, my sister wasn't valedictorian and didn't make any touching speeches). I used to rush home from field hockey practice on Wednesday's to watch.

[Anonymous]

It’s a shitty show and always has been.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The good news it that it celebrates mother/ daughter relationships. I’m sure that will have a positive impact on your own daughter.

The mom was a hot mess, her daughter had everything going for her and blew it all up... just like her mother. I wouldn't say this was a positive impact type show.

Lorelei was NOT a hot mess. She did pretty well for herself.

Uh what? She is incredibly immature, emotionally stunted and had an inappropriate relationship with Rory (treated her as a therapist/friend instead of a daughter). And she flat out had inappropriate relationships like with Rory's teacher.

I agree while Rory was his student after that consenting adults

[Anonymous]

I don't think it aged well. And now as a parent--the relationship was inappropriate and the mom needed to grow up.

[Anonymous]

This is one of those shows that got under my skin and I wound up semi-hate watching the whole thing. I say "semi" because there are actors, and performances, I like on the show. Also, even though I find Lorelai and Rory vaguely awful (I'll get to that in a minute), I think Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel are very charismatic, watchable actors. So even when I'd be watching their stupid, enmeshed banter and hating it, part of me also enjoyed their chemistry and the way the actors give and take in those scenes, especially as the show progressed and Bledel became a better technical actors.

The thing about Lorelai and Rory is that they are both privileged, entitled aholes but they are also cosplaying as a needy single mom and her underprivileged only daughter. It is honestly grotesque. I remember watching it and for a time feeling like there was another shoe that was going to drop to explain this dynamic in a way that didn't make them awful. I seriously assume for some period of time that Emily and Richard had been physically abusive or at least severely neglectful of Lorelai, explaining her behavior and making the plot where she seems to loathe her parents so much, even though they mostly just seem to want the best for her and to have been unhappy when their smart but headstrong teenage daughter got pregnant (normal!).

But no, Richard is honestly just a wonderful person and loving father and grandfather. Emily is a tough nut and I can see her butting heads with a daughter a lot, but she's also incredibly smart and certainly loves Lorelai as much as Lorelie loves Rory. Like it is just nonsensical that Lorelai acts like she was somehow abandoned by her family (she left them) or that they don't care for her (they do literally everything they can to support her and her daughter).

I say this as someone from a highly dysfunctional family, who had one parent with a personality disorder and the other a codependent enabler, and I maintain a good deal of distance from my family for my mental health. So I was primed to be sympathetic to even a rich girl (I didn't grow up rich but also not poor, family dysfunction does not limit itself to people in poverty at all) with similar issues. But she does't have them! She has had a remarkably easy life, especially when you consider the poor decisions she made in high school (SHE made them, no one force her to do anything). Like every time you think "well, at least she's doing that on her own" you find out, just kidding, someone else is paying for it or supporting her in some critical way that most peopel don't have. And then on top of it she's just a total narcissist. The crap with her multi-day birthday celebrations and just the way she behaves like the central character in EVERYONE's business. She is truly the worst.

Rory is also terrible and displays a ton of the same traits, this kind of vulnerable narcissism where, despite being very wealthy and having a super-supportive family, being very pretty and smart, and pretty much getting everything she wants, she still somehow paints herself as a victim who people should feel sorry for and go out of their way to help. It is so grating. I have known a couple people like that in life and they are so toxic, you have to run as far as possible in the opposite direction. It's a "don't engage, don't make eye contact" situation. I guess Rory gets more sympathy from me because unlike Lorelai, who grew up the only child of two wealthy but loving parents, Rory is the only child a single mom with a personality disorder who prevents Rory from having functional relationships with her father and her grandparents for the first 13/14 years of life. So it's not shocking that Rory is deeply screwed up, but that doesn't change the fact that she is.

TL;DR: Lorelai and Rory are both vulnerable narcissists with Main Character Syndrome, a fact that can't even be concealed by the fact that they are indeed date main characters of this show. Emily and Richard seem great, as do a handful of other characters (mostly Paris, to a lesser extent Suki and Laine though the show does both of them dirty in ways that honestly feel offensive to me). And yet, I watched every single episode including the stupid reboot miniseries thing. It's addicting trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those shows that got under my skin and I wound up semi-hate watching the whole thing. I say "semi" because there are actors, and performances, I like on the show. Also, even though I find Lorelai and Rory vaguely awful (I'll get to that in a minute), I think Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel are very charismatic, watchable actors. So even when I'd be watching their stupid, enmeshed banter and hating it, part of me also enjoyed their chemistry and the way the actors give and take in those scenes, especially as the show progressed and Bledel became a better technical actors.

The thing about Lorelai and Rory is that they are both privileged, entitled aholes but they are also cosplaying as a needy single mom and her underprivileged only daughter. It is honestly grotesque. I remember watching it and for a time feeling like there was another shoe that was going to drop to explain this dynamic in a way that didn't make them awful. I seriously assume for some period of time that Emily and Richard had been physically abusive or at least severely neglectful of Lorelai, explaining her behavior and making the plot where she seems to loathe her parents so much, even though they mostly just seem to want the best for her and to have been unhappy when their smart but headstrong teenage daughter got pregnant (normal!).

But no, Richard is honestly just a wonderful person and loving father and grandfather. Emily is a tough nut and I can see her butting heads with a daughter a lot, but she's also incredibly smart and certainly loves Lorelai as much as Lorelie loves Rory. Like it is just nonsensical that Lorelai acts like she was somehow abandoned by her family (she left them) or that they don't care for her (they do literally everything they can to support her and her daughter).

I say this as someone from a highly dysfunctional family, who had one parent with a personality disorder and the other a codependent enabler, and I maintain a good deal of distance from my family for my mental health. So I was primed to be sympathetic to even a rich girl (I didn't grow up rich but also not poor, family dysfunction does not limit itself to people in poverty at all) with similar issues. But she does't have them! She has had a remarkably easy life, especially when you consider the poor decisions she made in high school (SHE made them, no one force her to do anything). Like every time you think "well, at least she's doing that on her own" you find out, just kidding, someone else is paying for it or supporting her in some critical way that most peopel don't have. And then on top of it she's just a total narcissist. The crap with her multi-day birthday celebrations and just the way she behaves like the central character in EVERYONE's business. She is truly the worst.

Rory is also terrible and displays a ton of the same traits, this kind of vulnerable narcissism where, despite being very wealthy and having a super-supportive family, being very pretty and smart, and pretty much getting everything she wants, she still somehow paints herself as a victim who people should feel sorry for and go out of their way to help. It is so grating. I have known a couple people like that in life and they are so toxic, you have to run as far as possible in the opposite direction. It's a "don't engage, don't make eye contact" situation. I guess Rory gets more sympathy from me because unlike Lorelai, who grew up the only child of two wealthy but loving parents, Rory is the only child a single mom with a personality disorder who prevents Rory from having functional relationships with her father and her grandparents for the first 13/14 years of life. So it's not shocking that Rory is deeply screwed up, but that doesn't change the fact that she is.

TL;DR: Lorelai and Rory are both vulnerable narcissists with Main Character Syndrome, a fact that can't even be concealed by the fact that they are indeed date main characters of this show. Emily and Richard seem great, as do a handful of other characters (mostly Paris, to a lesser extent Suki and Laine though the show does both of them dirty in ways that honestly feel offensive to me). And yet, I watched every single episode including the stupid reboot miniseries thing. It's addicting trash.

The bolded is so obvious in the show that I have to think it was done on purpose. That’s the only explanation I can conjure up. I think the irony is the point.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think teen mothers’ relationships IRL tend to be healthier than what’s depicted in this show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not woke enough today

+100

If you enjoy diversity, it is not the show for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I liked the setting of "Stars Hollow" but never could get into the main characters of the show. It all seemed so unrealistic, trying to pretend to be real.

I do like that about the show. Reminds me of the West Wing.