Yes, right, and the evidence of that is their plummeting academic statistics for enrolled students, the precipitous drop in the number of applications, and the acceptance rate rocketing up. /geez |
A Williams vs say a Wesleyan degree does not really provide a significant advantage or disadvantage in 99% for post grad opportunities or situations. Except maybe if ur a lax bro, those guys take care of their own.. the focus on ranking is brutal for SLACs - but I kinda get it for national universities - don’t ask me why just my feeling |
It is reductive Neanderthal behavior to take all the nuanced aspects of colleges and form a single ranking for the entire school, every department, every major and think it will be meaningful. |
These rankings started as a gimmick to sell magazines. |
| This discussion is moot anyway since it appears that no one can get accepted at the T15 anyway! |
This is turning out to be a great thread. It's high time people took a closer look at Harvard and Yale and their inexplicable rankings among the top 5 universities. Their mediocrity in STEM has already been noted. But take a gander at their freshman retention rates. Harvard is at 92 percent, which is below Auburn, Brandeis, and the Colorado School of Mines. Yale is even worse at 90 percent, which is worse than UC San Diego, the University of Dayton, and SUNY Stony Brook. Figures are from US News and World Report. Tell me again why Harvard and Yale are considered top schools? These lists are clearly composed by blue-haired wasps from the 1950s. |
Agree that. only a handful - 7? 6? - schools are truly "elite." Vehemently disagree that then means Duke = Lehigh. Just, no. |
Harvard excels at math. |
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My definition is just the T15 schools:
HYPSM Caltech Columbia Penn Chicago Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Cornell JHU |
Georgetown > Brown + Cornell |
Can you provide a link to this list? As of September of 2022. The University of Texas was on track to overtake Harvard for the largest endowment. How could UT fall out of the top ten in less than a year? According to the American Council on Education, an endowment is “an aggregation of assets invested by a college or university to support its educational and research mission in perpetuity.” Land operated by the University of Texas System yields an endowment asset of approximately $6 million per day. According to Bloomberg News, the university’s endowment is poised to surpass Harvard, which would render UT the wealthiest university in the world (it is currently in second place). |
The UT system was excluded because it is not a single school, but rather a state-wide system comprised of many schools. |
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Major matters much more.
UMD CS > Harvard English |
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The UT system was excluded because it is not a single school, but rather a state-wide system comprised of many schools.
Genuinely curious as to why that would exclude them from the list. I do know that the UT endowment funds supports all schools in the University of Texas System, not just Austin (UT-Dallas, UT - San Antonio, UT - El Paso, etc). As I said, according to the American Council on Education, an endowment is “an aggregation of assets invested by a college or university to support its educational and research mission in perpetuity.” Seems like UT fits that description. Either way, the UT endowment is enormous and is poised to overtake Harvard this year or the next. On a side note, I'm not suggesting that Texas is an elite University. Some of the majors at the school fall into elite status but not the general school itself. Just commenting on a previous post that stated a schools endowment makes it elite. I'm not sure that is the case. |
OK, sure, Gtown grad. |