Vanderbilt RD

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Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

Things change. College admissions is a totally different beast these days, There's ED, EA, SCEA, RD. I love MIT because they keep it real. No legacy preferences. Test scores required. No difference in admissions between early and regular admissions. It's an honest school. Best of the best.

But for the other top twenties... eh. The smart kids don't bother with Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. Hopeless. Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Caltech, Rice, Notre Dame and the honors programs at state flagships are where it's at. Would totally take a Vandy kid over a Yale kid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

Things change. College admissions is a totally different beast these days, There's ED, EA, SCEA, RD. I love MIT because they keep it real. No legacy preferences. Test scores required. No difference in admissions between early and regular admissions. It's an honest school. Best of the best.

But for the other top twenties... eh. The smart kids don't bother with Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. Hopeless. Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Caltech, Rice, Notre Dame and the honors programs at state flagships are where it's at. Would totally take a Vandy kid over a Yale kid

Vandy takes a lot more kids test optional than Yale does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

Things change. College admissions is a totally different beast these days, There's ED, EA, SCEA, RD. I love MIT because they keep it real. No legacy preferences. Test scores required. No difference in admissions between early and regular admissions. It's an honest school. Best of the best.

But for the other top twenties... eh. The smart kids don't bother with Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. Hopeless. Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Caltech, Rice, Notre Dame and the honors programs at state flagships are where it's at. Would totally take a Vandy kid over a Yale kid

Vandy takes a lot more kids test optional than Yale does.

True. But the ones that it takes have a higher 75th percentile than Yale’s 75th percentile. So there are definitely some very bright kids there.

[Anonymous]

The smart kids don't bother with Harvard, Yale, and Stanford.

This is just ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

“There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this”

LMAO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

thank you for exposing this grand conspiracy of elite college admissions! Call Fox News immediately!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

thank you for exposing this grand conspiracy of elite college admissions! Call Fox News immediately!

yep just because more URM kids are getting in with TO doesn’t mean that AOs are saying “this kid went to a private, has money to prep, and we expect to see a score!”

what it means is that Chase and Colton are now on an even playing field with the URM when they go TO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

Things change. College admissions is a totally different beast these days, There's ED, EA, SCEA, RD. I love MIT because they keep it real. No legacy preferences. Test scores required. No difference in admissions between early and regular admissions. It's an honest school. Best of the best.

But for the other top twenties... eh. The smart kids don't bother with Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. Hopeless. Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Caltech, Rice, Notre Dame and the honors programs at state flagships are where it's at. Would totally take a Vandy kid over a Yale kid

Vandy takes a lot more kids test optional than Yale does.

True. But the ones that it takes have a higher 75th percentile than Yale’s 75th percentile. So there are definitely some very bright kids there.

Hmm. From Stats not your thing huh? Not sure you would be a good candidate for Yale or Vandy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

thank you for exposing this grand conspiracy of elite college admissions! Call Fox News immediately!

yep just because more URM kids are getting in with TO doesn’t mean that AOs are saying “this kid went to a private, has money to prep, and we expect to see a score!”

what it means is that Chase and Colton are now on an even playing field with the URM when they go TO

Ah, woke liberals. You really are an adorable people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

thank you for exposing this grand conspiracy of elite college admissions! Call Fox News immediately!

yep just because more URM kids are getting in with TO doesn’t mean that AOs are saying “this kid went to a private, has money to prep, and we expect to see a score!”

what it means is that Chase and Colton are now on an even playing field with the URM when they go TO

sorry about the even playing field - I know that’s a new concept for many

Ah, woke liberals. You really are an adorable people.

[Anonymous]

whoopsie! formatted above post incorrectly - meant the following comment to stand loud and proud on its own:

sorry about the even playing field - I know that’s a new concept for many

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know it's test optional now, but it really isn't for most people. Above 1500 or 34 gets you a look.

Why do people keep pretending most kids aren't applying TO? Per Vandy's 2021-22 CDS, only 25% of enrolled 2021 students submitted an SAT score (403 kids) and 32% submitted an ACT score (527). SAT range was 1480-1570.

Dp, but I think she was saying that test optional is only for certain demographics, i.e. the 40 percent test optional were primarily hooked applicants.

this is 100% not true

AOs do not look at TO applications through a socioeconomic or URM lens. There has never been an AO at any college going on record saying they do this

another half baked DCUM narrative to make the elite feel that Chase or Colton’s 1560 gives them a leg up vs the other prep school kids.

First of all, hooked also includes athletes, legacies and children of donors.

And yes, no admissions officer would admit it because every school is planning on using TO/holistic review as a means of skirting the impending Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. Admissions of urm, rural, and first Gen students have increased dramatically since TO has been adopted at the most selective schools.

thank you for exposing this grand conspiracy of elite college admissions! Call Fox News immediately!

yep just because more URM kids are getting in with TO doesn’t mean that AOs are saying “this kid went to a private, has money to prep, and we expect to see a score!”

what it means is that Chase and Colton are now on an even playing field with the URM when they go TO

Ah, woke liberals. You really are an adorable people.

Come on guys. Does anyone here - left or right - not think TO is a technology used to wave in URMs who otherwise would appear glaringly unqualified (especially in a legal proceeding)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Soon these schools will just be all Asian /international. Yuck

Please do not post here. I recommend taking up meditation, yoga, or at least deep breathing to deal with your anger issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

I don't know your definition of average, but Vanderbilt was never average - not 20 years ago nor even 40 years ago. I have absolutely no connection to the school, and my kids go to "average" state universities, but I remember in the 1980s my BFF's cousin who was VERY SMART went to Vanderbilt (we lived in the north). It was considered a very competitive school. Now perhaps you are saying that Vanderbilt is "DCUM average" and perhaps that is true in the DCUM skewed way of looking at things. But the school itself is clearly not "average" overall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems odd. This school was average twenty years ago and still has almost no representation for elite Wall Street / Banking / Consulting and elite Grad Schools. There are exceptions, but this seems all about Nashville hype and Tulane/u Chicago style marketing. Much better outcomes at many lower ranked schools.

I don't know your definition of average, but Vanderbilt was never average - not 20 years ago nor even 40 years ago. I have absolutely no connection to the school, and my kids go to "average" state universities, but I remember in the 1980s my BFF's cousin who was VERY SMART went to Vanderbilt (we lived in the north). It was considered a very competitive school. Now perhaps you are saying that Vanderbilt is "DCUM average" and perhaps that is true in the DCUM skewed way of looking at things. But the school itself is clearly not "average" overall.

I personally know an indisputably elite I-banking alum who heavily recruits there, so this is dumb