Leader In Me training?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

I hated those two day training. The saving grace was it was on Zoom and I was good at getting work done while half listening to the bs.

Occasionally I'd ask a question about the program like why it's so obsessed with winning and maybe we should focus on growth vs a winner/loser mindset and the trainer would just punt. He was pretty incompetent and would just throw us in to break our rooms and didn't notice that everyone wasn't talking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

I hated those two day training. The saving grace was it was on Zoom and I was good at getting work done while half listening to the bs.

Occasionally I'd ask a question about the program like why it's so obsessed with winning and maybe we should focus on growth vs a winner/loser mindset and the trainer would just punt. He was pretty incompetent and would just throw us in to break our rooms and didn't notice that everyone wasn't talking

Loser talk!

[Anonymous]

My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

That’s exactly the kinds of questions you should be asking during a training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

Ooh, now I'm sad I'm in the 4th cohort - I want to be in YOUR session!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

That’s exactly the kinds of questions you should be asking during a training.

I to dread the training. I fear they are going to put 200 staff in a the cafeteria with admin looking on and have us cycle around at dreadful "stations" to mimic how this may be done in a large corporate setting. The trainers will basically act as cheerleaders saying how wonderful everything is over and over again. The zoom training last summer was surviveable, but this will be a trainwreck and make most staff miserable. The trainers were experts at blowing off any criticism last year.

We want SEL, but LiM is not that at all. LiM doesn't really acknowledge or place any value on the often traumatic experiences of our students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

That’s exactly the kinds of questions you should be asking during a training.

I to dread the training. I fear they are going to put 200 staff in a the cafeteria with admin looking on and have us cycle around at dreadful "stations" to mimic how this may be done in a large corporate setting. The trainers will basically act as cheerleaders saying how wonderful everything is over and over again. The zoom training last summer was surviveable, but this will be a trainwreck and make most staff miserable. The trainers were experts at blowing off any criticism last year.

We want SEL, but LiM is not that at all. LiM doesn't really acknowledge or place any value on the often traumatic experiences of our students.

Personally, I'd prefer that MCPS spent less money on programs like this so we wouldn't have to raise property taxes in order to pay teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

That’s exactly the kinds of questions you should be asking during a training.

I to dread the training. I fear they are going to put 200 staff in a the cafeteria with admin looking on and have us cycle around at dreadful "stations" to mimic how this may be done in a large corporate setting. The trainers will basically act as cheerleaders saying how wonderful everything is over and over again. The zoom training last summer was surviveable, but this will be a trainwreck and make most staff miserable. The trainers were experts at blowing off any criticism last year.

We want SEL, but LiM is not that at all. LiM doesn't really acknowledge or place any value on the often traumatic experiences of our students.

Personally, I'd prefer that MCPS spent less money on programs like this so we wouldn't have to raise property taxes in order to pay teachers.

The property tax hike is necessary to pay for more programs like this and the increase in central office positions next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This week, all MCPS teaching staff are required to sign up for a two day summer training for Leader in Me. What is this training and how much is it costing the county? Class sizes are unmanageable, yet we have the resources to pay for all staff to attend this mandatory training??? Why not use these resources for more teachers?

This is the second year I will be required to take training. It’s a huge time suck at my school. A half an hour a week of instruction lost to a philosophy that is culturally irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

My school refused to do it during advisory. We have a Leader in Me period carved out of instructional time once a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to annoy the facilitator with questions all day like,

“so when my advisory is cursing and eating snacks as I click through your slides, how exactly do I get them to discuss anything with their peers?”

“I see my advisory once a week for 17 minutes. 5 of those minutes are school video announcements. Tell me again how your corporate program umpires their lives? Where is the peer reviewed research proving this?”

That’s exactly the kinds of questions you should be asking during a training.

I to dread the training. I fear they are going to put 200 staff in a the cafeteria with admin looking on and have us cycle around at dreadful "stations" to mimic how this may be done in a large corporate setting. The trainers will basically act as cheerleaders saying how wonderful everything is over and over again. The zoom training last summer was surviveable, but this will be a trainwreck and make most staff miserable. The trainers were experts at blowing off any criticism last year.

We want SEL, but LiM is not that at all. LiM doesn't really acknowledge or place any value on the often traumatic experiences of our students.

Personally, I'd prefer that MCPS spent less money on programs like this so we wouldn't have to raise property taxes in order to pay teachers.

Same here.

We need more teachers and smaller class sizes. Not useless programs like this.

The millions of dollars in wasted money needs to be directed to things that actually help atudent performance. This program ain’t it.

[Anonymous]

Do SEIU members do any Leader in Me training? Or just MCEA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've done some online research, and wow, teachers, admins, and students all seem to find this program useless. It relies on corporate-think and buzzwords, and the buy-in seems pretty low. Also, there seems to be some cultish connection to the Mormon church...Why are staff required to attend this two-day summer training that could be better used to teach classroom management, content-specific training, fight de-escalation training, etc? Or, maybe teachers can simply have a break from a very difficult year and use their summer as they see fit? How much does this cost again?

That's really odd everyone at our school from students to teachers loves it.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've done some online research, and wow, teachers, admins, and students all seem to find this program useless. It relies on corporate-think and buzzwords, and the buy-in seems pretty low. Also, there seems to be some cultish connection to the Mormon church...Why are staff required to attend this two-day summer training that could be better used to teach classroom management, content-specific training, fight de-escalation training, etc? Or, maybe teachers can simply have a break from a very difficult year and use their summer as they see fit? How much does this cost again?

That's really odd everyone at our school from students to teachers loves it.

+1000

Can you clarify what about it the students really love?

[Anonymous]

Class sizes are HUGE in our middle school. Why are we wasting any amount of money on this when we should be hiring more teachers. Not more staff, but more teachers.