Leader In Me training?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. How does the Leader in Me differ from the 7 Habits? I studied the 7 Habits when the book first came out, and found the concepts extremely useful in my college and grad school years.

I think it is the kids’ version of that.

..You used these tools? Extremely useful? I'm so sorry that you drank the kool-aid. Just, wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I don’t thinks there’s anything inherently wrong with the LIM teachings. However, there has to be buy-in from both staff and students. Right now MCPS is in crisis. For most of DCUM, your children attend the better schools- the ones where most parents are able to purchase school supplies, feed your children, have housing security, etc… However, the majority of the county is not like that.

The children are coming in with no basics. They are far behind in academics (think a 4th grader who can’t do 7-6 without using her fingers or a 5th grader unable to write a basic sentence). Their behavior is also far behind. The kids think running down the hall screaming in the middle of class is normal. Fist fight on the playground are weekly. Racial slurs are constant.

What most teachers are saying, is that right now there are more important worries than this curriculum. It’s not what SEL should look like based on what we are actually seeing in class. If the curriculum covered things like zones of regulation or general study skill or school appropriate behaviors, then there would be a lot more buy-in.

This is very helpful. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

What school? How is it being implemented?

[Anonymous]

I remember we had to read the 7 habits for teens in high school and no one then bought in, so it made it extremely difficult for our teacher. This was in 2003. The kids didn’t buy in then, they aren’t buying in now. It’s such a waste of time and money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

You seriously need to seek some help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know of one teacher in my school who likes it. He is able to connect it to his passion second gig, coaching/refereeing. I have heard anyone else say anything good. A lot of staff hate it and aren’t shy about telling the students. Most staff are ambivalent and just middle our way through the lessons. They are clearly not meant for high schoolers. The videos and examples seem geared to middle school at best. At the high school level SEL needs to provide actual leadership opportunities, but Leader in me is a lot of happy talk which rubs everyone the wrong way.

The only people who don't like it at our school are the ones that dislike everything anyways. Personally I think they resent working and are angry about everything.

I know. It's like they hate public education so much and are against anything that doesn't involve hiring SROs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember we had to read the 7 habits for teens in high school and no one then bought in, so it made it extremely difficult for our teacher. This was in 2003. The kids didn’t buy in then, they aren’t buying in now. It’s such a waste of time and money.

Weird, when they did LIM last year most of the kids seemed to really enjoy and even benefit from it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember we had to read the 7 habits for teens in high school and no one then bought in, so it made it extremely difficult for our teacher. This was in 2003. The kids didn’t buy in then, they aren’t buying in now. It’s such a waste of time and money.

Weird, when they did LIM last year most of the kids seemed to really enjoy and even benefit from it.

Sure they did... And how exactly do you know this? Do you even work in a school building?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

So Elrich wants to raise property taxes by 10% to pay for this and more central office jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. How does the Leader in Me differ from the 7 Habits? I studied the 7 Habits when the book first came out, and found the concepts extremely useful in my college and grad school years.

It is worse. Our school pulled the suicide prevention lesson. Being suicidal was the kid's fault. The perspective is entirely form an upper middle-class, white, privileged position. Challenges that students may face are framed as the person not using the right attitudes. That is very Mormon, your problems are your faul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did the leader in me training last summer and it was the worst 2 day training I have ever been to in my life.
Our school decided not to use the leader in me curriculum because it is laughably bad.
Now we have to attend part 2 of training and the thought of it is making me want to cry.
When I ask my school if I can attend a summer PD in my content area, they say there is no money for it.
The wasted money at MCPS makes me so angry

So Elrich wants to raise property taxes by 10% to pay for this and more central office jobs?

Yep. Open up your wallet, MCPS taxpayers. Just one of many useless initiatives from a corrupt and dysfunctional county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The training was incredibly boring. Have something with you so you can multitask. (And the kids really don’t like it, unfortunately)

That's a bad attitude. Do your students do this when you're teaching?

yes

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with Leader in Me on the surface. It’s just that the presentations are incredibly boring and middle school and high school kids are not interested. I remember one presentation was 40 slides to go over in 30 minutes. The videos are often meant for ES or don’t play at all. All this drives teachers away from it. Teachers have too much on their plates already and resent being used for checklist central office items that don’t help kids enough to be worth the frustration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a great program, but some posters (paid astroturfers) resent public schools and spending on anything like SEL programs. The only good use of tax dollars to them is to make public schools into prisons.

I would welcome SEL if it was actually a good program that helped children. leader in me is not any of that