Wealthy POC: What has your career been like?

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

POC is the color of skin. Not the bank balance.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

POC is the color of skin. Not the bank balance.

But you don't get to claim the same degree of white atonement as African Americans, Native Americans or Brown Hispanics, which obviously bothers you..

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

POC is the color of skin. Not the bank balance.

But you don't get to claim the same degree of white atonement as African Americans, Native Americans or Brown Hispanics, which obviously bothers you..

And you can't claim how systemic racism stopped you from achieving financial and even political success. Indians have surpassed another "model minority" - East Asians in breaking through that "white ceiling" to the highest power positions in Fortune 500 companies, and even politics. But YOU specifically still don't feel "high caste" enough? How so?

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I do think that one of the things that especially immigrant pocs need to come to terms with is that along the journey for African Americans in this country there have been plenty of times where African Americans have been successful and at each turn white Americans made sure to knock them back down.

I mean you can look all the way back to the Northwest Territory which would be modern day Illinois Ohio and Michigan. Which was essentially deemed to be free of slavery and so that frontier became a huge settlement area for free African Americans including those who paid for their freedom and the freedom of their family members. There were very successful farmers some of which were able to accumulate wealth and large amounts of land. And they were decimated within 30 to 50 years. It wouldn't it was a slow claw back of items like requiring a $500 bond to be placed for each family member. Allowing for bounty hunters to enter states after the passage of the fugitive slave act and then taking children working in fields, etc. Many successful Farmers tried to move to other areas and some even moved to Canada.

Fast forward to civil war reconstruction, tulsa race massacre, axle race in FL, Jim Crow laws redlining not allowing students of color to be admitted to colleges or universities. Charging higher interest rates just because of race. The war on drugs I mean if you compare the heroin crisis to cocaine opioids and weed it's a ridiculous comparison because the former was mostly centralized to inner City areas that were predominantly black and the latter three are predominantly white people's drugs of choice. Even the rhetoric around reasoning of drug use for cocaine weed MDMA and opioids is completely different than the rhetoric around heroin/crack.

Your experience- and/or your families experience- coming here as a first generation with an education in the 1950s to 2000s is quite ridiculous. They aren't comparable.

My DH, who is black, was traveling with coworkers- one of whom was Muslim. When they were going through security he said to him, in here I'm Public enemy number 1 but out there it's you. And they had a good laugh. That's probably one comparison that sticks.

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

All the Indians I know in this country who came as adults were educated there and were at least middle class if not UMC. poorer Indians seem to have come in earlier immigration waves. Their kids are educated in the USA. What I know about those who are 1st gen immigrants of the last 25 years is that by far and large they had access to education in India and were connected enough to get to work in the USA (or to be foreign students here). They outnumber Indian kids of uneducated parents who went to school here when it comes to tech field specifically. Maybe it's different in medicine

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Exactly, in a nutshell this poster thinks she/he will never be enough because their skin color is other than white. Sounds like a personal mental issues that she/he needs to address. Not a white problem, of a POC problem for that matter. It's a personal problem.

Np, and I didn't read it that way at all.

How did you read it? What is so amazing about being white these days that PP with misinterpreted response is craving?

Thanks to NP. Immediate PP, I don’t waste time explaining shit to stupid people. If you didn’t go to IIT we are not of the same caliber and you need to shut up and learn.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Tell me you’re FOB without telling me you’re FOB. Google it.

I know what FOB is Let me reframe this. Do you believe there is a caste system in the USA? Are you in this uncomfortable place where you don't feel "high caste white" enough, but at the same time cannot claim being one of the POC categories whites must atone to?

Again, you’re not of my caliber. I don’t explain to first gen who didn’t go to IIT.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

So your take is that wealthy Black people aren’t POC? Wealthy Hispanic people are not POC?

You think POC = poor.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you do? What do you attribute to your success? Have you faced racism? How did you overcome it?

Asking because i am a fellow POC trying to make it professionally in the U.S.

I don't understand what the point of your post is. Did you get the answers you were looking for? Are you expecting to have the doors shut in your face because you are POC? What exactly is behind your question on overcoming racism? You aren't applying for a job 50 years ago..

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

All the Indians I know in this country who came as adults were educated there and were at least middle class if not UMC. poorer Indians seem to have come in earlier immigration waves. Their kids are educated in the USA. What I know about those who are 1st gen immigrants of the last 25 years is that by far and large they had access to education in India and were connected enough to get to work in the USA (or to be foreign students here). They outnumber Indian kids of uneducated parents who went to school here when it comes to tech field specifically. Maybe it's different in medicine

You forget America’s racist policy towards Indians. They don’t let in the uneducated ones.

Remember the Asian Exclusion Act? When we weren’t even allowed to immigrate. Then they opened up immigration but only to educated Asians in science and technology fields.

When you only let in the educated from a certain group, then obviously you aren’t going to have the poor and uneducated from that region. Then obviously those that were educated enough to get the golden visa to immigrate are going to be successful. If the fail, they lose their green card. They have to be successful.

And you think immigrants that had to prove themselves that much to be accepted in this country are not going to push their kids to excel too?

Canada, UK, Australia- they don’t have Indian ‘model minorities’ because they allow immigration of Indians of different SES or ‘caste’ as you all like to dramatize. It’s the US that upholds this casteism is by not allowing poor, uneducated Indians immigration allowance.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

So your take is that wealthy Black people aren’t POC? Wealthy Hispanic people are not POC?

You think POC = poor.

It's not an unpopular opinion that there are privileged Blacks and Indigenous people. Black kids who grew up in well-off households and with educated parents had a leg up. Some feel uncomfortable claiming their experience is related to poor kids stuck in generational poverty due to systemic racism.

Why don't you think harder and tell me what "POC" means in the context that OP is describing. This is obviously not about skin color alone, but about identity, and identity that could lead to certain discrimination and denial of equal opportunity to build wealth.

Had Indians been denied opportunity to build wealth in a systemic way? Recent wave of Indian immigrants were ushered into the US straight into the industry where the high paying jobs are. How are they wronged exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

All the Indians I know in this country who came as adults were educated there and were at least middle class if not UMC. poorer Indians seem to have come in earlier immigration waves. Their kids are educated in the USA. What I know about those who are 1st gen immigrants of the last 25 years is that by far and large they had access to education in India and were connected enough to get to work in the USA (or to be foreign students here). They outnumber Indian kids of uneducated parents who went to school here when it comes to tech field specifically. Maybe it's different in medicine

I know my own relatives who came here without much education in 1960s. They did low skill jobs and their kids delivered newspapers, sold concessions at movie halls, drove taxis, delivered pizza, worked in McDonalds and availed of the free education in public schools and community college to now have homes in Potomac. Educated here and belonging to parents who were not even fluent in English. One lady of that generation never learned English, never learned how to drive a car, never had a paying job and could not communicate to others outside her family.

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

All the Indians I know in this country who came as adults were educated there and were at least middle class if not UMC. poorer Indians seem to have come in earlier immigration waves. Their kids are educated in the USA. What I know about those who are 1st gen immigrants of the last 25 years is that by far and large they had access to education in India and were connected enough to get to work in the USA (or to be foreign students here). They outnumber Indian kids of uneducated parents who went to school here when it comes to tech field specifically. Maybe it's different in medicine

You forget America’s racist policy towards Indians. They don’t let in the uneducated ones.

Remember the Asian Exclusion Act? When we weren’t even allowed to immigrate. Then they opened up immigration but only to educated Asians in science and technology fields.

When you only let in the educated from a certain group, then obviously you aren’t going to have the poor and uneducated from that region. Then obviously those that were educated enough to get the golden visa to immigrate are going to be successful. If the fail, they lose their green card. They have to be successful.

And you think immigrants that had to prove themselves that much to be accepted in this country are not going to push their kids to excel too?

Canada, UK, Australia- they don’t have Indian ‘model minorities’ because they allow immigration of Indians of different SES or ‘caste’ as you all like to dramatize. It’s the US that upholds this casteism is by not allowing poor, uneducated Indians immigration allowance.

What group of poor uneducated people does US allow to enter with the exception of those crossing our Southern Border?

And how exactly did uneducated Indians who worked low wage jobs and ran small businesses arrive decades ago? To immigrate legally from any country you have to have some family here or win Green Card lottery or be sponsored by your employer or a school.

Over the last 3 decades you were given advantage over other immigrant groups because tech industry decided to choose India as its hub for outsourcing. This fueled demand on education and to start churning eligible candidates, which certainly didn't hurt India's economy not to mention didn't hurt your chances getting here and building successful lives as educated professionals. Sorry your ancestors didn't arrive in Slave ships, lived under Jim Crow, or had their land stolen, so that you can enjoy the "white guilt".

You think whites wronged you and owe you?

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

India does not provide free education except in special government schools in elementary levels. Education, housing and food costs are very high in India. In any case, it is very hard to get into college in India because there is no endless supply of colleges and community colleges like US. In fact, it is surprising to me that Americans do not utilize the free resources that is available in this country. Isn't it amazing that free education is available from K-12 to all kids in US but most of them will waste this opportunity and come to school only to be badly behaved and disruptive.

This is the kind of wastage that kills me because around the world poor kids want to go to school but they do not have the opportunity.

All the Indians I know in this country who came as adults were educated there and were at least middle class if not UMC. poorer Indians seem to have come in earlier immigration waves. Their kids are educated in the USA. What I know about those who are 1st gen immigrants of the last 25 years is that by far and large they had access to education in India and were connected enough to get to work in the USA (or to be foreign students here). They outnumber Indian kids of uneducated parents who went to school here when it comes to tech field specifically. Maybe it's different in medicine

I know my own relatives who came here without much education in 1960s. They did low skill jobs and their kids delivered newspapers, sold concessions at movie halls, drove taxis, delivered pizza, worked in McDonalds and availed of the free education in public schools and community college to now have homes in Potomac. Educated here and belonging to parents who were not even fluent in English. One lady of that generation never learned English, never learned how to drive a car, never had a paying job and could not communicate to others outside her family.

OK, this isn't really that different from experience of many immigrants who arrived back then, immigrants of various ethnicities and skin tones from all over the world. Those from South America and Eastern Europe and China, etc.