Wealthy POC: What has your career been like?

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Anonymous wrote:Indian immigrant ...came 30 years to the US to go to school and great journey so far. Worked my butt off in the tech field on the biz side met my wife (2nd marriage for me) who was also Indian and got an MBA from a top school. Together we make over $800k..(almost equal each), NW ~$7M give or take and work hard/play hard. Career has been upwards with a lot of holding pattern. Work for an old tech company reporting to the EVP where all of them are white and I am the only minority. Most meetings I am the only brown person but I have always believed in letting my skills do the talking.On top of that I don't have a 'anglecized' name.


Could I have gone higher in my career if I was white...maybe or who knows. What a great country this is...both my wife and I came here with nothing but a few suitcases!

And a free education in your home country!

India does not provide free education except at elementary level, stop being jealous.

But Indians did benefit from massive outsourcing and insourcing though.. Tell me it isn't so. Widespread use of English was an advantage in getting tech companies investment. Indian workers in IT/Tech weren't necessarily "discriminated" against or overlooked for promotions in the last 2 decades. Many already had jobs lined up upon arrival, and from what I know Indians who came here and did well were not poor and low caste, they were already middle class in their home country and had higher education.

If you grew up with illegal immigrant parents or came here as uneducated immigrant (especially with poor English), did labor as a child, grew up poor POC in the projects of run down neighborhoods and only had crappy schools at your disposal then I'd buy your "disadvantaged POC" story.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

“White people” come from many countries, cultures and languages. We are pretty diverse group of people. There are more than 40 countries just in Europe. We also speak different languages and have many differences. I am a white immigrant who speaks English with an accent.

Whenever anyone gets a job they have to fit into the corporate culture, relate to co-workers and bosses. Your skin color doesn't make you automatically "fit in" or be perceived as successful. You have to be adequately educated, successful at your job and building relationships and also ambitious and ready to take risks and resilient if making mistakes. Anyone with these qualities who doesn't experience some sort of misfortune or ill health usually succeeds in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

You can do all this and still think the system absolutely sucks. That's reality.

How did the system suck for you, can you be specific about your experiences?

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

You can do all this and still think the system absolutely sucks. That's reality.

As a first generation immigrant I actually think the system is great. I could never achieve what I have achieved in my country of origin. You really can accomplish anything here if you work hard. My parents came here with nothing and could hardly speak the language and all of their kids went into college and to have really lucrative careers. What more do you want out of the system? To get something for nothing?

Try living in the 3rd world and get back to me about systems that “absolutely suck”.

This. Education is still the easiest way to achieve success, but you'd have to study things that pay if your goal is to make higher income. Most of the stories listed mention jobs in Tech and Medicine. People mentioned that their parents/family had placed importance on education and culture of work before play (regardless of racial/ethnic background). And it pays off unless you hit some true misfortune.

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Haha second gen here. You first gens are really doing the most to act like the fact that you got into this country meant you were way more privileged than 99% of your countrymen.

Fools.

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Didn’t mean, typing too fast but man you guys are annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

What people don't have "generational trauma"? Even if you restrict it to the last 75 years.. It's a whole a lot of people.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Congratulations! You are officially a professional American victim! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bravo to you too for not following along and completing missing point.

Any topic that brings the word Indian into this forum triggers the most nasty people.
Namaste 🙏🏽

I think it's because people usually don't associate the term "POC" with the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Tell me you’re FOB without telling me you’re FOB. Google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Exactly, in a nutshell this poster thinks she/he will never be enough because their skin color is other than white. Sounds like a personal mental issues that she/he needs to address. Not a white problem, of a POC problem for that matter. It's a personal problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from reading these posts is that the successful POCs do not think of themselves as victims, they grab at opportunities, and know how to navigate the dominate population enough to make white people comfortable around them.

I’m a PP poster and don’t even know what it means to try to make white people comfortable. It had never crossed my mind to do so. I treat everyone the same. I’ve never heard an Indian say this or advise to do this and I’m pretty deeply involved in the Indian community. This is definitely not an Indian thing to do.

It is deeply ingrained, you probably don’t realize it because of this. Colonization absolutely taught Indian people how to ‘act around white people’. It’s a survival mechanism.

Is it genetic trait that parents pas on to their biological children? The British left India in 1947, over 75 years ago!

It’s not a genetic trait but there is this thing called generational trauma. Clearly black people in America today were not affected by slavery but the history of how there ancestors survived and that stress passed on from mother to child.

My mother was born under the British Raj. Her family directly impacted by Partition. This is far from ancient history. Her parents triggers passed on anxieties to her, her own early memories of violence formed her worldview, those things impacted my upbringing.

But you don’t really want to understand this, do you?

Not np, but of course I want to understand yours or anyone else's personal journey, what made you who you are today. However, as a white person, I refuse to be punished for the color of my skin because of your parent's past experiences. If I have trauma or negative experiences I see it as my personal responsibility to society to find a way to address those issues, be it through therapy of just self awareness, and not bring those experiences into society as my world view. You see how that distorts your view of white people, or any other color of person by causing a hate that you carry around with you on a day to day basis. There are plenty of traumas I can associate with from my upbringing, with exposure from multiple generations, but I choose not to let those affect my view in current time. Is it easy? No, but it is a conscious decision I make every day of my life. It takes work, but it can be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Exactly, in a nutshell this poster thinks she/he will never be enough because their skin color is other than white. Sounds like a personal mental issues that she/he needs to address. Not a white problem, of a POC problem for that matter. It's a personal problem.

Np, and I didn't read it that way at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Tell me you’re FOB without telling me you’re FOB. Google it.

I know what FOB is Let me reframe this. Do you believe there is a caste system in the USA? Are you in this uncomfortable place where you don't feel "high caste white" enough, but at the same time cannot claim being one of the POC categories whites must atone to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I’m second generation Indian and I finally convinced my parents that this country sucks.

We (parents and then we were exponentially more successful because of the leg up) are self-made millionaires. Dear brown people- they are never going to think you’re white.

What does this even mean? Why do you need to or want to be white?

Exactly, in a nutshell this poster thinks she/he will never be enough because their skin color is other than white. Sounds like a personal mental issues that she/he needs to address. Not a white problem, of a POC problem for that matter. It's a personal problem.

Np, and I didn't read it that way at all.

How did you read it? What is so amazing about being white these days that PP with misinterpreted response is craving?