Tennessee House Passes Mariage Act

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TN leaving the thread- hate has no home in the beautiful free state of TN. We don’t need your help either to take care of each other here- we’re doing it each day, and doing His work, too. Bless you all.

IN 2021, 28 HATE GROUPS WERE TRACKED IN TENNESSEE

ALL SCRIPTURE BAPTIST CHURCH
ANTI-LGBTQ
KNOXVILLE

AMERICAN CHRISTIAN DIXIE KNIGHTS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

BLOOD RIVER RADIO
WHITE NATIONALIST
BARTLETT

DIXIE GIFTSHOP
GENERAL HATE
STATEWIDE

FOLKS FRONT/FOLKISH RESISTANCE MOVEMENT
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE
GREAT MILLSTONE

GENERAL HATE
NASHVILLE, MEMPHIS
ISRAEL UNITED IN CHRIST

GENERAL HATE
MEMPHIS, NASHVILLE
ISRAELITE SCHOOL OF UNIVERSAL PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE

NATION OF ISLAM
ANTISEMITISM
MEMPHIS

NATIONAL ALLIANCE
NEO-NAZI
MOUNTAIN CITY

NATIONAL SOCIALIST MOVEMENT
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE

NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY FOR SELF DEFENSE
GENERAL HATE
MEMPHIS

OLD GLORY KNIGHTS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN
KU KLUX KLAN
SANTA FE

PATRIOT FRONT
WHITE NATIONALIST
STATEWIDE

POLITICAL ISLAM
ANTI-MUSLIM
NASHVILLE

PROUD BOYS
GENERAL HATE
STATEWIDE

SACRED TRUTH PUBLISHING & MINISTRIES
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY
MOUNTAIN CITY

STRAIGHT ARM MEDIA
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE

TENNESSEE LEAGUE OF THE SOUTH
NEO-CONFEDERATE
STATEWIDE

THE POLITICAL CESSPOOL
WHITE NATIONALIST
BARTLETT

TRUE311.COM
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

TRUTH IN LOVE PROJECT
ANTI-MUSLIM
MARYVILLE

UNITED KLAN NATION
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

UNITED SKINHEAD NATION
RACIST SKINHEAD
STATEWIDE

WARRIORS FOR CHRIST
ANTI-LGBTQ
MOUNT JULIET

https://www.splcenter.org/states/tennessee


Just look at how many of those hate groups are affiliated with Christianity! Facts are mighty inconvenient for those who try to gaslight us all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pipe down - nobody is going to be denied a marriage license here.

What if a liberal clerk decided not to issue a license to two conservatives, based on his firmly held beliefs. Where in the bill would it protect this couple from a rogue clerk? Not that I’m gving rogue clerks ideas. But you know, hypothetically speaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TN leaving the thread- hate has no home in the beautiful free state of TN. We don’t need your help either to take care of each other here- we’re doing it each day, and doing His work, too. Bless you all.

IN 2021, 28 HATE GROUPS WERE TRACKED IN TENNESSEE

ALL SCRIPTURE BAPTIST CHURCH
ANTI-LGBTQ
KNOXVILLE

AMERICAN CHRISTIAN DIXIE KNIGHTS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

BLOOD RIVER RADIO
WHITE NATIONALIST
BARTLETT

DIXIE GIFTSHOP
GENERAL HATE
STATEWIDE

FOLKS FRONT/FOLKISH RESISTANCE MOVEMENT
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE
GREAT MILLSTONE

GENERAL HATE
NASHVILLE, MEMPHIS
ISRAEL UNITED IN CHRIST

GENERAL HATE
MEMPHIS, NASHVILLE
ISRAELITE SCHOOL OF UNIVERSAL PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE

NATION OF ISLAM
ANTISEMITISM
MEMPHIS

NATIONAL ALLIANCE
NEO-NAZI
MOUNTAIN CITY

NATIONAL SOCIALIST MOVEMENT
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE

NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY FOR SELF DEFENSE
GENERAL HATE
MEMPHIS

OLD GLORY KNIGHTS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN
KU KLUX KLAN
SANTA FE

PATRIOT FRONT
WHITE NATIONALIST
STATEWIDE

POLITICAL ISLAM
ANTI-MUSLIM
NASHVILLE

PROUD BOYS
GENERAL HATE
STATEWIDE

SACRED TRUTH PUBLISHING & MINISTRIES
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY
MOUNTAIN CITY

STRAIGHT ARM MEDIA
NEO-NAZI
STATEWIDE

TENNESSEE LEAGUE OF THE SOUTH
NEO-CONFEDERATE
STATEWIDE

THE POLITICAL CESSPOOL
WHITE NATIONALIST
BARTLETT

TRUE311.COM
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

TRUTH IN LOVE PROJECT
ANTI-MUSLIM
MARYVILLE

UNITED KLAN NATION
KU KLUX KLAN
STATEWIDE

UNITED SKINHEAD NATION
RACIST SKINHEAD
STATEWIDE

WARRIORS FOR CHRIST
ANTI-LGBTQ
MOUNT JULIET

https://www.splcenter.org/states/tennessee


Just look at how many of those hate groups are affiliated with Christianity! Facts are mighty inconvenient for those who try to gaslight us all.

Bringing the facts. I like it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pipe down - nobody is going to be denied a marriage license here.

If that’s true, and Tennessee is such a bastion of equality and committed to equal access, why pass this law?

The law will protect Christian government workers who don’t want to sign marriage licenses for same sex couples.

Nobody is going to be refused, the workers will opt out in advance.

We have a good thing going down here though I know you don’t believe it.

We’ll handle this like the good neighbors we are; love and faith can both win.

Have a beautiful day.

This is America which was founded on separation of church and state. Your job is your job, and your job comes first. If you work for the state and your religion somehow precludes you from doing your job then you should not be in that position.

And by the way, it has little to do with "being Christian" as there is virtually nothing in the New Testament about homosexuality or gay marriage, certainly nothing is in the Gospels or actual teachings of Christ. Where it's found is in the Old Testament, but as we know, Christians don't actually follow the Old Testament. You cut the hair from your temples, you do not sacrifice bulls or follow Kosher laws. It's basically bigotry that uses false Christianity as cover for bigotry.

Ok if you aren’t familiar with the New Testament, you can use the google search engine to seek results for say, New Testament and homosexuality. That way, you can skip ahead to the parts that interest you.

Oh honey, you went ahead and took the bait, so now it's time for you to deliver. Why don't you give me some exact New Testament citations, starting with the four Gospels - you know, the actual core teachings of Christ as testified to by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, where Jesus validates your anti-homosexual bigotry?

I'll wait...

Yep Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality and many biblical scholars belive that St Paul was mostly concerned about ancient Roman practices related to pedophilia (adult men exploiting underange boys) .

The Old Testament sounds harsh in Leviticus but that whole book is giving rules for appropriate conduct in the temple. Obviously social prescriptions from 5 k years ago should not be taken literally now (anyone plan on handing their daughters over to random strangers as a sign of their radical hospitality?) science shows us know that gays are genetically predisposed to be gay. We are all made in God’s image.

The Bible does have a lot to say in both testaments about helping the poor and marginalized. Not about hate mongering against gays/ trans people or people of different faiths and/ or especially not against POC .

This new law is not theologically sound or ethical from a Christian perspective IMO. I see why so many young people are turned off by our faith when they see all the hate mongering and hypocrisy done in the name of Jesus.

What precious few references there are about homosexuality in the Bible are concentrated in the Old Testament, mostly Leviticus, Timothy etc. And those are directly alongside other prohibitions that are not followed by Christians, such as not eating pork or shellfish, cutting hair from one's temples, et cetera. Also, we don't put women to death for having had sex prior to marriage or follow most other practices in the Old Testament.

I think Christians should actually focus foremost on those core teachings of Christ, of helping the sick, the poor, the elderly, refugees and other marginalized people. If they can't even get those core teachings in the four Gospels right, then I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on trying to throw their weight around on with Old Testament crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bill text for anyone interested. It is sweeping in the discretion it gives to clerks.

Feels like we are moving back to a Jim Crow-like regime in Republican states.

I am okay with that, they can to a diffrent town or city. this popular if maybe the person marrying that person doesn't think the marrige will last or what not. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBT or anything racist at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pipe down - nobody is going to be denied a marriage license here.

If that’s true, and Tennessee is such a bastion of equality and committed to equal access, why pass this law?

The law will protect Christian government workers who don’t want to sign marriage licenses for same sex couples.

Nobody is going to be refused, the workers will opt out in advance.

We have a good thing going down here though I know you don’t believe it.

We’ll handle this like the good neighbors we are; love and faith can both win.

Have a beautiful day.

This is America which was founded on separation of church and state. Your job is your job, and your job comes first. If you work for the state and your religion somehow precludes you from doing your job then you should not be in that position.

And by the way, it has little to do with "being Christian" as there is virtually nothing in the New Testament about homosexuality or gay marriage, certainly nothing is in the Gospels or actual teachings of Christ. Where it's found is in the Old Testament, but as we know, Christians don't actually follow the Old Testament. You cut the hair from your temples, you do not sacrifice bulls or follow Kosher laws. It's basically bigotry that uses false Christianity as cover for bigotry.

Ok if you aren’t familiar with the New Testament, you can use the google search engine to seek results for say, New Testament and homosexuality. That way, you can skip ahead to the parts that interest you.

Oh honey, you went ahead and took the bait, so now it's time for you to deliver. Why don't you give me some exact New Testament citations, starting with the four Gospels - you know, the actual core teachings of Christ as testified to by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, where Jesus validates your anti-homosexual bigotry?

I'll wait...

Yep Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality and many biblical scholars belive that St Paul was mostly concerned about ancient Roman practices related to pedophilia (adult men exploiting underange boys) .

The Old Testament sounds harsh in Leviticus but that whole book is giving rules for appropriate conduct in the temple. Obviously social prescriptions from 5 k years ago should not be taken literally now (anyone plan on handing their daughters over to random strangers as a sign of their radical hospitality?) science shows us know that gays are genetically predisposed to be gay. We are all made in God’s image.

The Bible does have a lot to say in both testaments about helping the poor and marginalized. Not about hate mongering against gays/ trans people or people of different faiths and/ or especially not against POC .

This new law is not theologically sound or ethical from a Christian perspective IMO. I see why so many young people are turned off by our faith when they see all the hate mongering and hypocrisy done in the name of Jesus.

What precious few references there are about homosexuality in the Bible are concentrated in the Old Testament, mostly Leviticus, Timothy etc. And those are directly alongside other prohibitions that are not followed by Christians, such as not eating pork or shellfish, cutting hair from one's temples, et cetera. Also, we don't put women to death for having had sex prior to marriage or follow most other practices in the Old Testament.

I think Christians should actually focus foremost on those core teachings of Christ, of helping the sick, the poor, the elderly, refugees and other marginalized people. If they can't even get those core teachings in the four Gospels right, then I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on trying to throw their weight around on with Old Testament crap.

I am PP you responded to and agree. Fortunately so does nearly everyone in my church, which goes out of its way to be loving and inclusive in practical and spiritual ways.

However, one caveat - the social Justice themes were big in OT as well (the prophets).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill text for anyone interested. It is sweeping in the discretion it gives to clerks.

Feels like we are moving back to a Jim Crow-like regime in Republican states.

I am okay with that, they can to a diffrent town or city. this popular if maybe the person marrying that person doesn't think the marrige will last or what not. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBT or anything racist at all.

What would you call a county clerk who doesn't believe in interracial marriage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill text for anyone interested. It is sweeping in the discretion it gives to clerks.

Feels like we are moving back to a Jim Crow-like regime in Republican states.

I am okay with that, they can to a diffrent town or city. this popular if maybe the person marrying that person doesn't think the marrige will last or what not. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBT or anything racist at all.

You're okay with the county clerk judging whether or not a marriage will work out or not?! WTF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill text for anyone interested. It is sweeping in the discretion it gives to clerks.

Feels like we are moving back to a Jim Crow-like regime in Republican states.

I am okay with that, they can to a diffrent town or city. this popular if maybe the person marrying that person doesn't think the marrige will last or what not. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBT or anything racist at all.

WTF is wrong with you? A county clerk is just a bureaucratic document processor. That’s all. They have no authority over who can marry or any other damn thing. Did the couple fill out and sign the form properly? Do they have ID, blood tests, or any other statutory requirements? If yes, then give them a marriage license. That’s the entirety of a clerk’s authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill text for anyone interested. It is sweeping in the discretion it gives to clerks.

Feels like we are moving back to a Jim Crow-like regime in Republican states.

I am okay with that, they can to a diffrent town or city. this popular if maybe the person marrying that person doesn't think the marrige will last or what not. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBT or anything racist at all.

Hmmm... but I thought Republicans were all about "getting the government out of people's lives"???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TN leaving the thread- hate has no home in the beautiful free state of TN. We don’t need your help either to take care of each other here- we’re doing it each day, and doing His work, too. Bless you all.

wow, that's irony for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TN leaving the thread- hate has no home in the beautiful free state of TN. We don’t need your help either to take care of each other here- we’re doing it each day, and doing His work, too. Bless you all.

wow, that's irony for you.

Truth has no meaning to these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TN leaving the thread- hate has no home in the beautiful free state of TN. We don’t need your help either to take care of each other here- we’re doing it each day, and doing His work, too. Bless you all.

wow, that's irony for you.

Truth has no meaning to these people.

Irony and hyperbole are dead.

[Anonymous]

Away down south in Dixie!

[Anonymous]

My racist, abusive ex was from TN. Somehow this does not surprise me. He'd support a bill like this.

Sad for our country.