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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pipe down - nobody is going to be denied a marriage license here.

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If that’s true, and Tennessee is such a bastion of equality and committed to equal access, why pass this law?[/quote]

The law will protect Christian government workers who don’t want to sign marriage licenses for same sex couples.

Nobody is going to be refused, the workers will opt out in advance.

We have a good thing going down here though I know you don’t believe it.

We’ll handle this like the good neighbors we are; love and faith can both win.

Have a beautiful day.[/quote]

This is America which was founded on separation of church and state.  Your job is your job, and your job comes first.  If you work for the state and your religion somehow precludes you from doing your job then you should not be in that position.

And by the way, it has little to do with "being Christian" as there is virtually nothing in the New Testament about homosexuality or gay marriage, certainly nothing is in the Gospels or actual teachings of Christ.  Where it's found is in the Old Testament, but as we know, Christians don't actually follow the Old Testament.  You cut the hair from your temples, you do not sacrifice bulls or follow Kosher laws.  It's basically bigotry that uses false Christianity as cover for bigotry.[/quote]

Ok if you aren’t familiar with the New Testament, you can use the google search engine to seek results for say, New Testament and homosexuality.   That way, you can skip ahead to the parts that interest you.[/quote]

Oh honey, you went ahead and took the bait, so now it's time for you to deliver.  Why don't you give me some exact New Testament citations, starting with the four Gospels - you know, the actual core teachings of Christ as testified to by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, where Jesus validates your anti-homosexual bigotry?

I'll wait...[/quote]
 Yep Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality and many biblical scholars belive that St Paul was mostly concerned about ancient Roman practices related to pedophilia (adult men exploiting underange boys) .

The Old Testament sounds harsh in Leviticus but that whole book is giving rules for appropriate conduct in the temple. Obviously social prescriptions from 5 k years ago should not be taken literally now (anyone plan on handing their daughters over to random strangers as a sign of their radical hospitality?) science shows us know that gays are genetically predisposed to be gay. We are all made in God’s image.

The Bible does have a lot to say in both testaments about helping the poor and marginalized. Not about hate mongering against gays/ trans people or people of different faiths and/ or especially not against POC .

This new law is not theologically sound or ethical from a Christian perspective IMO. I see why so many young people are turned off by our faith when they see all the hate mongering and hypocrisy done in the name of Jesus.

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What precious few references there are about homosexuality in the Bible are concentrated in the Old Testament, mostly Leviticus, Timothy etc.  And those are directly alongside other prohibitions that are not followed by Christians, such as not eating pork or shellfish, cutting hair from one's temples, et cetera.  Also, we don't put women to death for having had sex prior to marriage or follow most other practices in the Old Testament.

I think Christians should actually focus foremost on those core teachings of Christ, of helping the sick, the poor, the elderly, refugees and other marginalized people.  If they can't even get those core teachings in the four Gospels right, then I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on trying to throw their weight around on with Old Testament crap.[/quote]

I am PP you responded to and agree. Fortunately so does nearly everyone in my church, which goes out of its way to be loving and inclusive in practical and spiritual ways.

However, one caveat - the social Justice themes were big in OT as well (the prophets).[/quote]

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