What’s the distance from a school where they will not rezone you?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

LOL nothing is safe. Our school has homes right next to it. They all go to another school because of racial balancing. No house is in a safe zone.

Oh my god oh my god. What shall we do? The sky is falling!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

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It started at $50K. A couple more pages, and their home value will have dropped $500K at this rate. Presumably there are also folks whose property value went up with the great rezoning of horizon him? Yay for them? And maybe someday people will figure out student success has more to do with parents than school assignment.

Horizon Hill too busy preparing their racist testimony for boundary hearings to update their kitchens.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

Deflecting from the actual topic, that's what. The topic was, "Is there a distance from a school where they will not rezone you?" I responded and justified it with an example. Just because you didn't like that I brought up the upcounty study as an example, doesn't make it invalid. You need to stop getting angry every time someone mentions facts from that study. The previous superintendent even said that it was going to be an example of how future boundary studies will be done. Again, not my words.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

Deflecting from the actual topic, that's what. The topic was, "Is there a distance from a school where they will not rezone you?" I responded and justified it with an example. Just because you didn't like that I brought up the upcounty study as an example, doesn't make it invalid. You need to stop getting angry every time someone mentions facts from that study. The previous superintendent even said that it was going to be an example of how future boundary studies will be done. Again, not my words.

DP. I don't think your example fits the scenario, though. Unless the Stratford Knolls community had previously been zoned to Neelsville, and an MCPS boundary study rezoned them away from it.

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Anonymous wrote:It started at $50K. A couple more pages, and their home value will have dropped $500K at this rate. Presumably there are also folks whose property value went up with the great rezoning of horizon him? Yay for them? And maybe someday people will figure out student success has more to do with parents than school assignment.

Horizon Hill too busy preparing their racist testimony for boundary hearings to update their kitchens.

Did you know that there are Black home owners in HH? Are they racist, too?

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Anonymous wrote:It started at $50K. A couple more pages, and their home value will have dropped $500K at this rate. Presumably there are also folks whose property value went up with the great rezoning of horizon him? Yay for them? And maybe someday people will figure out student success has more to do with parents than school assignment.

Horizon Hill too busy preparing their racist testimony for boundary hearings to update their kitchens.

Did you know that there are Black home owners in HH? Are they racist, too?

Are they people who have been homeowners in Horizon Hill for over 35 years and are still bringing up the injustice of the rezoning as though it had happened yesterday?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Yes, yes anything can happen but if you are currently in the school's walkzone you should be safe.

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Anonymous wrote:It started at $50K. A couple more pages, and their home value will have dropped $500K at this rate. Presumably there are also folks whose property value went up with the great rezoning of horizon him? Yay for them? And maybe someday people will figure out student success has more to do with parents than school assignment.

Horizon Hill too busy preparing their racist testimony for boundary hearings to update their kitchens.

Did you know that there are Black home owners in HH? Are they racist, too?

Are they people who have been homeowners in Horizon Hill for over 35 years and are still bringing up the injustice of the rezoning as though it had happened yesterday?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

Deflecting from the actual topic, that's what. The topic was, "Is there a distance from a school where they will not rezone you?" I responded and justified it with an example. Just because you didn't like that I brought up the upcounty study as an example, doesn't make it invalid. You need to stop getting angry every time someone mentions facts from that study. The previous superintendent even said that it was going to be an example of how future boundary studies will be done. Again, not my words.

DP. I don't think your example fits the scenario, though. Unless the Stratford Knolls community had previously been zoned to Neelsville, and an MCPS boundary study rezoned them away from it.

They hadn't been, and it didn't.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2018/schools/04104map.pdf

In the upcounty boundary study, nobody who had been in a walk zone was reassigned to be in a bus zone. Everyone who had been in a walk zone stayed in a walk zone. In fact they even added a split articulation to Gibbs ES, so they wouldn't reassign people who would in the near future be in a walk zone to be in a bus zone. That's why the south side of West Old Baltimore stayed assigned to Rocky Hill/Clarksburg when the rest of Gibbs was moved to Neelsville/SV. Also, some people who had been in a bus zone were reassigned to be in a walk zone, namely the Rolling Hills apartments that are literally on the other side of Wisteria from SV but had been assigned to Northwest.

Also in the upcounty boundary study, there was an organized effort by some people to make sure that whoever ended up at Neelsville (and SV, but mostly Neelsville), it wouldn't be them. And then, when they were reassigned to Neelsville anyway, they started saying that nobody should be at Neelsville, it should be closed. And then, when it wasn't closed, they sued. And lost.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

Deflecting from the actual topic, that's what. The topic was, "Is there a distance from a school where they will not rezone you?" I responded and justified it with an example. Just because you didn't like that I brought up the upcounty study as an example, doesn't make it invalid. You need to stop getting angry every time someone mentions facts from that study. The previous superintendent even said that it was going to be an example of how future boundary studies will be done. Again, not my words.

DP. I don't think your example fits the scenario, though. Unless the Stratford Knolls community had previously been zoned to Neelsville, and an MCPS boundary study rezoned them away from it.

They hadn't been, and it didn't.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2018/schools/04104map.pdf

In the upcounty boundary study, nobody who had been in a walk zone was reassigned to be in a bus zone. Everyone who had been in a walk zone stayed in a walk zone. In fact they even added a split articulation to Gibbs ES, so they wouldn't reassign people who would in the near future be in a walk zone to be in a bus zone. That's why the south side of West Old Baltimore stayed assigned to Rocky Hill/Clarksburg when the rest of Gibbs was moved to Neelsville/SV. Also, some people who had been in a bus zone were reassigned to be in a walk zone, namely the Rolling Hills apartments that are literally on the other side of Wisteria from SV but had been assigned to Northwest.

Also in the upcounty boundary study, there was an organized effort by some people to make sure that whoever ended up at Neelsville (and SV, but mostly Neelsville), it wouldn't be them. And then, when they were reassigned to Neelsville anyway, they started saying that nobody should be at Neelsville, it should be closed. And then, when it wasn't closed, they sued. And lost.

Oh boy, the fragile mommies who are appalled that someone wouldn't want to be moved to Neelsville are back. Probably the same mommies who were also secretly making an effort that their kids NOT get moved there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe anything is "safe" at this point. My kid rides a bus to a middle school where there is not a single walker. All the kids in the same neighborhood, even those across the street or on the same block as the middle school take a bus to another middle school that is 10 minutes away.

That's a school without a walk zone. But if your school has a walk zone (which almost all of them do), and you live within that walk zone, then you will be "safe" to remain a walker.

When there are houses that are literally a short walking distance of the school, yes, there is a walk zone. MCPS just chooses not to have it to justify its decisions. At the upcounty boundary study, they had an opportunity to revise the boundaries for Neelsville Middle School so that kids within walking distance to that school can attend and walk to that school instead of continuing to take the bus to MLK MS. They didn't do that. Demographics is their primary priority; the other factors are secondary. Full stop.

Nope. If there is no safe walking route, then it is not a walk zone, even if it's literally across the street (355 and Germantown Road, in the case of Neelsville Middle School). You want more kids to walk? Then you should push the county and the state for safe routes to school.

I'm talking about Stratford Knolls community which is on the same side of 355 as Neelsville Middle School- where homes are less than a mile away from the school. I don't know how much safer you want those kids to walk. All the kids have to do is walk the nice, safe sidewalks of Shakespeare Blvd. and Neelsville Church Rd. where the school is. Kids don't have to step foot on 355 at all.

So you want Sally K. Ride ES to split articulate to THREE middle schools - MLK, Clemente, and Neelsville? Do you live in this neighborhood and want your child to walk to Neelsville, or do you live in an area which got reassigned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and you're still angry about it and you think those other homeowners/kids over there should have been assigned to Neelsville/Seneca Valley instead of you/your kids?

Calm down. I was simply making a point that no distance from a school will keep one safe from being rezoned. As you can see with Neelsville, the neighborhood that is perfectly a short and safe walk to the school was not rezoned to the school during the upcountry boundary study. MCPS has a more important priority when considering school assignments. And as for the split articulation at Sally Ride, well they could just have 2; Clemente and Neelsville; or MLK and Neelsville. Regardless, one of those schools should be Neelsville.

Because getting rezoned is dangerous.

Tell me you're deflecting without telling me you're deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Yet another discussion on DCUM about a decision you disagree with from a three-year-old boundary study that didn't even affect you? You're going to be like those homeowners in Horizon Hill, still talking about the upcounty boundary study in 2055, except without the justification (such as it is) of the hit to your property value.

Deflecting from the actual topic, that's what. The topic was, "Is there a distance from a school where they will not rezone you?" I responded and justified it with an example. Just because you didn't like that I brought up the upcounty study as an example, doesn't make it invalid. You need to stop getting angry every time someone mentions facts from that study. The previous superintendent even said that it was going to be an example of how future boundary studies will be done. Again, not my words.

DP. I don't think your example fits the scenario, though. Unless the Stratford Knolls community had previously been zoned to Neelsville, and an MCPS boundary study rezoned them away from it.

They hadn't been, and it didn't.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2018/schools/04104map.pdf

In the upcounty boundary study, nobody who had been in a walk zone was reassigned to be in a bus zone. Everyone who had been in a walk zone stayed in a walk zone. In fact they even added a split articulation to Gibbs ES, so they wouldn't reassign people who would in the near future be in a walk zone to be in a bus zone. That's why the south side of West Old Baltimore stayed assigned to Rocky Hill/Clarksburg when the rest of Gibbs was moved to Neelsville/SV. Also, some people who had been in a bus zone were reassigned to be in a walk zone, namely the Rolling Hills apartments that are literally on the other side of Wisteria from SV but had been assigned to Northwest.

Also in the upcounty boundary study, there was an organized effort by some people to make sure that whoever ended up at Neelsville (and SV, but mostly Neelsville), it wouldn't be them. And then, when they were reassigned to Neelsville anyway, they started saying that nobody should be at Neelsville, it should be closed. And then, when it wasn't closed, they sued. And lost.

Oh boy, the fragile mommies who are appalled that someone wouldn't want to be moved to Neelsville are back. Probably the same mommies who were also secretly making an effort that their kids NOT get moved there.

Well, there's a misogynist post.